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I would be fine with 1 second cast time...
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talfx5✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »
Yes, i do know better, knowledge is more than time. would you say all old men are smarter than all younger men? ofcourse not , This apply to the game as well, this alone should make you rethink all you wrote.mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Out of the changes to shields, which do you think is the biggest nerf?
Shields are the main thing that shouldnt have been nerfed. the rest i dont see much them as game changing.
To me I feel the nerf was more for PVP not PVE since PVE monsters do not crit. Your resistance reduces the incoming damage before it is applied to your shield.
OP doesn't understand that shields used to scale with magicka and so did magicka damage, so rightfully they changed it because your protection and damage shouldn't scale off the same attribute as some builds were making this way too powerful.
The change only really effects pvp but they are still very strong, it doesn't really effect pve if you know what you are doing.
I understand better than you buddy. pve got nerfed really hard for mag classes. too much. that is it.
You are proving you don't understand better than me, just write specifically what you are struggling with, what dungeon, what boss, what skills etc and ill try to help, my time is very valuable and im offering to you for free.
I have over 30 characters spread over 4 accounts 20 are over 1000 cp and all geared, if you think you know better than me that's cool but honestly you don't.
and i dont need your help, i know you are being sarcastic. i said it a few times i dont have any problems. i gave a full explanation before.
Pve for mag classes got worse. that the end of it, you cant change it, its obvious to so many people who are not commenting on the forum.
They were not being sarcastic, jesus you need to wake up and smell the coffee. its cool man im done there is no helping some people. I hope you find a way around your problem..... whatever it is im still not sure.
Peace.
I am confused. He said he doesn't have a problem but he says he dies in normal dungeons? if you die in normal dungeons than yes I would say you do have a problem. [/quote]
let me put it this way, everything you can do, i will do better.0 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Out of the changes to shields, which do you think is the biggest nerf?
Shields are the main thing that shouldnt have been nerfed. the rest i dont see much them as game changing.
To me I feel the nerf was more for PVP not PVE since PVE monsters do not crit. Your resistance reduces the incoming damage before it is applied to your shield.
OP doesn't understand that shields used to scale with magicka and so did magicka damage, so rightfully they changed it because your protection and damage shouldn't scale off the same attribute as some builds were making this way too powerful.
The change only really effects pvp but they are still very strong, it doesn't really effect pve if you know what you are doing.
I understand better than you buddy. pve got nerfed really hard for mag classes. too much. that is it.
You are proving you don't understand better than me, just write specifically what you are struggling with, what dungeon, what boss, what skills etc and ill try to help, my time is very valuable and im offering to you for free.
I have over 30 characters spread over 4 accounts 20 are over 1000 cp and all geared, if you think you know better than me that's cool but honestly you don't.Elara_Northwind wrote: »@Stebarnz bless you for trying to help this guy. I'm shocked by the rudeness of some people...
thankyou, I just wanna help because im a bit worried at the state of gameplay ive seen on this dungeon event.
Ive helped a few people and they understand how the game works now and they have more fun on the game, that's where im finding a lot of fun on this game now.
IDK if you are being sarcastic or not. im not a new player. solid dps, i know what im doing. probably will beat you in a duel. but i dont see much skill there.
No sarcasm, I actually wanted to help but I don't think you even know what the problem is, I think there is a language barrier also as English cant be your first language.
If you wanna duel I'm always down for some fun what platform you play on?2 -
mustangmorgan31✭✭✭✭You said you die in normal dungeons. So how you can do things better than others? I am so confused at this thread now. LOL6 -
talfx5✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »You said you die in normal dungeons. So how you can do things better than others? I am so confused at this thread now. LOL
I finished VROM, no death run, HM, and SR, in 1 *** run. did you do it?
so norm dung aint a problem, im saying they aint fun, and if you try to have fun, you will die.Edited by talfx5 on December 7, 2018 1:51AM0 -
mustangmorgan31✭✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »You said you die in normal dungeons. So how you can do things better than others? I am so confused at this thread now. LOL
I finished VROM, no death run, HM, and SR, in 1 *** run. did you do it?
yes I have the skin from vROM0 -
mustangmorgan31✭✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »You said you die in normal dungeons. So how you can do things better than others? I am so confused at this thread now. LOL
I finished VROM, no death run, HM, and SR, in 1 *** run. did you do it?
yes I have the skin from vROM
Do you have flawless conqueror in VMA?0 -
talfx5✭✭✭
aright. no need. ps4 eu.mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Out of the changes to shields, which do you think is the biggest nerf?
Shields are the main thing that shouldnt have been nerfed. the rest i dont see much them as game changing.
To me I feel the nerf was more for PVP not PVE since PVE monsters do not crit. Your resistance reduces the incoming damage before it is applied to your shield.
OP doesn't understand that shields used to scale with magicka and so did magicka damage, so rightfully they changed it because your protection and damage shouldn't scale off the same attribute as some builds were making this way too powerful.
The change only really effects pvp but they are still very strong, it doesn't really effect pve if you know what you are doing.
I understand better than you buddy. pve got nerfed really hard for mag classes. too much. that is it.
You are proving you don't understand better than me, just write specifically what you are struggling with, what dungeon, what boss, what skills etc and ill try to help, my time is very valuable and im offering to you for free.
I have over 30 characters spread over 4 accounts 20 are over 1000 cp and all geared, if you think you know better than me that's cool but honestly you don't.Elara_Northwind wrote: »@Stebarnz bless you for trying to help this guy. I'm shocked by the rudeness of some people...
thankyou, I just wanna help because im a bit worried at the state of gameplay ive seen on this dungeon event.
Ive helped a few people and they understand how the game works now and they have more fun on the game, that's where im finding a lot of fun on this game now.
IDK if you are being sarcastic or not. im not a new player. solid dps, i know what im doing. probably will beat you in a duel. but i dont see much skill there.
No sarcasm, I actually wanted to help but I don't think you even know what the problem is, I think there is a language barrier also as English cant be your first language.
If you wanna duel I'm always down for some fun what platform you play on?
my one and only point were that shields were over nerfed.
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talfx5✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »You said you die in normal dungeons. So how you can do things better than others? I am so confused at this thread now. LOL
I finished VROM, no death run, HM, and SR, in 1 *** run. did you do it?
yes I have the skin from vROM
Do you have flawless conqueror in VMA?
do you?0 -
mustangmorgan31✭✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »You said you die in normal dungeons. So how you can do things better than others? I am so confused at this thread now. LOL
I finished VROM, no death run, HM, and SR, in 1 *** run. did you do it?
yes I have the skin from vROM
Do you have flawless conqueror in VMA?
do you?
yes. 1 stamsorc, 1 mag nightblade, 3 templars0 -
wolf486✭✭✭✭
IDK if you are being sarcastic or not. im not a new player. solid dps, i know what im doing. probably will beat you in a duel. but i dont see much skill there.
Oh please set this up, location and time 'cos I want to watch it. People have already said they would be more than happy to help you out, group with you and see where you are having issues in whatever dungeons (that you still have not mentioned) as everyone else is fine, whether they like the changes or not.PC/NAMoved onto BDO and GW2 Skyrim, ATS/ETS2, ACNH and the overall goodness of single player games
RIP to the following:
(DC) Tharbûrz gro-Glumgrog - Orsimer -Stamden (lvl 50)
(AD) Vukz - Bosmer - Stamblade (lvl 50)3 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
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aright. no need. ps4 eu.mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Out of the changes to shields, which do you think is the biggest nerf?
Shields are the main thing that shouldnt have been nerfed. the rest i dont see much them as game changing.
To me I feel the nerf was more for PVP not PVE since PVE monsters do not crit. Your resistance reduces the incoming damage before it is applied to your shield.
OP doesn't understand that shields used to scale with magicka and so did magicka damage, so rightfully they changed it because your protection and damage shouldn't scale off the same attribute as some builds were making this way too powerful.
The change only really effects pvp but they are still very strong, it doesn't really effect pve if you know what you are doing.
I understand better than you buddy. pve got nerfed really hard for mag classes. too much. that is it.
You are proving you don't understand better than me, just write specifically what you are struggling with, what dungeon, what boss, what skills etc and ill try to help, my time is very valuable and im offering to you for free.
I have over 30 characters spread over 4 accounts 20 are over 1000 cp and all geared, if you think you know better than me that's cool but honestly you don't.Elara_Northwind wrote: »@Stebarnz bless you for trying to help this guy. I'm shocked by the rudeness of some people...
thankyou, I just wanna help because im a bit worried at the state of gameplay ive seen on this dungeon event.
Ive helped a few people and they understand how the game works now and they have more fun on the game, that's where im finding a lot of fun on this game now.
IDK if you are being sarcastic or not. im not a new player. solid dps, i know what im doing. probably will beat you in a duel. but i dont see much skill there.
No sarcasm, I actually wanted to help but I don't think you even know what the problem is, I think there is a language barrier also as English cant be your first language.
If you wanna duel I'm always down for some fun what platform you play on?
my one and only point were that shields were over nerfed.
ahhh console, I'm done.2 -
talfx5✭✭✭the only problem is that you people are coming to a conclution way too quicklymustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »You said you die in normal dungeons. So how you can do things better than others? I am so confused at this thread now. LOL
I finished VROM, no death run, HM, and SR, in 1 *** run. did you do it?
yes I have the skin from vROM
Do you have flawless conqueror in VMA?
do you?
yes. 1 stamsorc, 1 mag nightblade, 3 templars
ok? i know people have finished it lmao. what do you want? give me your build i will do it too so? everything you can i will do better. i would get a better score too.
point is, its not a *** skill based game. relax.Edited by talfx5 on December 7, 2018 1:59AM0 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
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IDK if you are being sarcastic or not. im not a new player. solid dps, i know what im doing. probably will beat you in a duel. but i dont see much skill there.
Oh please set this up, location and time 'cos I want to watch it. People have already said they would be more than happy to help you out, group with you and see where you are having issues in whatever dungeons (that you still have not mentioned) as everyone else is fine, whether they like the changes or not.
Careful OP will accuse you of sarcasm lol. btw he can do that better than you too @wolf4864 -
talfx5✭✭✭
IDK if you are being sarcastic or not. im not a new player. solid dps, i know what im doing. probably will beat you in a duel. but i dont see much skill there.
Oh please set this up, location and time 'cos I want to watch it. People have already said they would be more than happy to help you out, group with you and see where you are having issues in whatever dungeons (that you still have not mentioned) as everyone else is fine, whether they like the changes or not.
Careful OP will accuse you of sarcasm lol. btw he can do that better than you too @wolf486
you were sarcastic at first.0 -
Salvas_Aren✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Out of the changes to shields, which do you think is the biggest nerf?
Shields are the main thing that shouldnt have been nerfed. the rest i dont see much them as game changing.
To me I feel the nerf was more for PVP not PVE since PVE monsters do not crit. Your resistance reduces the incoming damage before it is applied to your shield.
OP doesn't understand that shields used to scale with magicka and so did magicka damage, so rightfully they changed it because your protection and damage shouldn't scale off the same attribute as some builds were making this way too powerful.
The change only really effects pvp but they are still very strong, it doesn't really effect pve if you know what you are doing.
I understand better than you buddy. pve got nerfed really hard for mag classes. too much. that is it.
You are proving you don't understand better than me, just write specifically what you are struggling with, what dungeon, what boss, what skills etc and ill try to help, my time is very valuable and im offering to you for free.
I have over 30 characters spread over 4 accounts 20 are over 1000 cp and all geared, if you think you know better than me that's cool but honestly you don't.Elara_Northwind wrote: »@Stebarnz bless you for trying to help this guy. I'm shocked by the rudeness of some people...
thankyou, I just wanna help because im a bit worried at the state of gameplay ive seen on this dungeon event.
Ive helped a few people and they understand how the game works now and they have more fun on the game, that's where im finding a lot of fun on this game now.
IDK if you are being sarcastic or not. im not a new player. solid dps, i know what im doing. probably will beat you in a duel. but i dont see much skill there.
No sarcasm, I actually wanted to help but I don't think you even know what the problem is, I think there is a language barrier also as English cant be your first language.
If you wanna duel I'm always down for some fun what platform you play on?
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mustangmorgan31✭✭✭✭the only problem is that you people are coming to a conclutiomustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »You said you die in normal dungeons. So how you can do things better than others? I am so confused at this thread now. LOL
I finished VROM, no death run, HM, and SR, in 1 *** run. did you do it?
yes I have the skin from vROM
Do you have flawless conqueror in VMA?
do you?
yes. 1 stamsorc, 1 mag nightblade, 3 templars
ok? i know people have finished it lmao. what do you want? give me your build i will do it too so? everything you can i will do better. i would get a better score too.
just stop buddy. just stop. You made a thread complaining about shield nerfs and you than boast to people saying you can do things better than others. Those that complain about nerfs usually cannot do things to much better than others. Just adapt and adjust to the changes like everyone else. I am done. NO helping someone like you. You boasted about your vROM run like it was something we couldn't achieve. Most people have already gotten that achievement a long time ago. So I just asked you if you had flawless conqueror since it is far better achievement than vROM speed, HM, and no death. In VMA you have to rely entirely on yourself. You can be carried in a 4 man vet dungeon but you cannot be carried in VMA.4 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭Salvas_Aren wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Out of the changes to shields, which do you think is the biggest nerf?
Shields are the main thing that shouldnt have been nerfed. the rest i dont see much them as game changing.
To me I feel the nerf was more for PVP not PVE since PVE monsters do not crit. Your resistance reduces the incoming damage before it is applied to your shield.
OP doesn't understand that shields used to scale with magicka and so did magicka damage, so rightfully they changed it because your protection and damage shouldn't scale off the same attribute as some builds were making this way too powerful.
The change only really effects pvp but they are still very strong, it doesn't really effect pve if you know what you are doing.
I understand better than you buddy. pve got nerfed really hard for mag classes. too much. that is it.
You are proving you don't understand better than me, just write specifically what you are struggling with, what dungeon, what boss, what skills etc and ill try to help, my time is very valuable and im offering to you for free.
I have over 30 characters spread over 4 accounts 20 are over 1000 cp and all geared, if you think you know better than me that's cool but honestly you don't.Elara_Northwind wrote: »@Stebarnz bless you for trying to help this guy. I'm shocked by the rudeness of some people...
thankyou, I just wanna help because im a bit worried at the state of gameplay ive seen on this dungeon event.
Ive helped a few people and they understand how the game works now and they have more fun on the game, that's where im finding a lot of fun on this game now.
IDK if you are being sarcastic or not. im not a new player. solid dps, i know what im doing. probably will beat you in a duel. but i dont see much skill there.
No sarcasm, I actually wanted to help but I don't think you even know what the problem is, I think there is a language barrier also as English cant be your first language.
If you wanna duel I'm always down for some fun what platform you play on?
You being sarcastic? lol2 -
talfx5✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »the only problem is that you people are coming to a conclutiomustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »You said you die in normal dungeons. So how you can do things better than others? I am so confused at this thread now. LOL
I finished VROM, no death run, HM, and SR, in 1 *** run. did you do it?
yes I have the skin from vROM
Do you have flawless conqueror in VMA?
do you?
yes. 1 stamsorc, 1 mag nightblade, 3 templars
ok? i know people have finished it lmao. what do you want? give me your build i will do it too so? everything you can i will do better. i would get a better score too.
just stop buddy. just stop. You made a thread complaining about shield nerfs and you than boast to people saying you can do things better than others. Those that complain about nerfs usually cannot do things to much better than others. Just adapt and adjust to the changes like everyone else. I am done. NO helping someone like you. You boasted about your vROM run like it was something we couldn't achieve. Most people have already gotten that achievement a long time ago. So I just asked you if you had flawless conqueror since it is far better achievement than vROM speed, HM, and no death. In VMA you have to rely entirely on yourself. You can be carried in a 4 man vet dungeon but you cannot be carried in VMA.
havnt touched it. idc, im not playing this competitively. there is no competition. get your heads out of your [edit] . play real competitive games instead of jerking off to this one.
getting solid build and pressing a rotation of buttons isnt skill. omg.Edited by ZOS_RogerJ on December 7, 2018 4:53PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Out of the changes to shields, which do you think is the biggest nerf?
Shields are the main thing that shouldnt have been nerfed. the rest i dont see much them as game changing.
To me I feel the nerf was more for PVP not PVE since PVE monsters do not crit. Your resistance reduces the incoming damage before it is applied to your shield.
OP doesn't understand that shields used to scale with magicka and so did magicka damage, so rightfully they changed it because your protection and damage shouldn't scale off the same attribute as some builds were making this way too powerful.
The change only really effects pvp but they are still very strong, it doesn't really effect pve if you know what you are doing.
I understand better than you buddy. pve got nerfed really hard for mag classes. too much. that is it.
You are proving you don't understand better than me, just write specifically what you are struggling with, what dungeon, what boss, what skills etc and ill try to help, my time is very valuable and im offering to you for free.
I have over 30 characters spread over 4 accounts 20 are over 1000 cp and all geared, if you think you know better than me that's cool but honestly you don't.Elara_Northwind wrote: »@Stebarnz bless you for trying to help this guy. I'm shocked by the rudeness of some people...
thankyou, I just wanna help because im a bit worried at the state of gameplay ive seen on this dungeon event.
Ive helped a few people and they understand how the game works now and they have more fun on the game, that's where im finding a lot of fun on this game now.
IDK if you are being sarcastic or not. im not a new player. solid dps, i know what im doing. probably will beat you in a duel. but i dont see much skill there.
You don't have a problem, yet your op is literally screaming about what you perceive as a problem?
Yes, you'll have to sacrifice some dps if you choose to have better survivability...just like every single other class. That's exactly why they took the crutch away. It was overperforming. You could go all in to damage without any sacrifice to max stat or defense, and it was the only class to do so.
Everyone talks about balance until it happens to thier class...Edited by Kel on December 7, 2018 3:44AM4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭What kind of gear changes have you made since Murkmire? That would be helpful knowing, so we can help you better.Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭That ship has sailed, @talfx5.
Either you adapt ... as most Sorcs have done by now.
Or, you don’t ... and keep pouting in the forums.
As you can see other forum-goers are trying to help. My advice would be to accept it.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Like why the hell you feel like you can speak for everyone? there are a lot of eso players that are not speaking out about this, and you made a chaos after ZOS planned on having a cast time on shields, now they nerfed shields to the ground and its so much harder and not fun to play mag classes in pve, it completely changed pve for me for the worst. i have to spam shields way more often and when i do, it really doesnt feel like i used it as enemies melt it like nothing, so we are basically stam players with way less survivability.
and if we use more resistance? well there goes our dps to the garbage.
Even on *** normal dungeons my sorc or my magwarden cant stay alive(15k resis), this is pathetic! my dps right now is 30-33k with both, so i not a new player or something (600cp), and im not making it up and im sure every mag players know that this is broken.
The changes on shields should not have applied to PVE, its not fair or fun anymore.
you all should have shut up when they announced the 1 second cast time. of course that would suck too but now its like not using shields at all. removed completely from PVE.
I agree with you.
Shields were a lot better in their original design (as were most abilities for that matter). They have been nerfing them into oblivion (no pun intended) ever since then in order to achieve the this MMO unicorn called "balance".
It's was bad enough you had to almost spam them just to keep them active. So the last thing shields needed was a nerf
The truth is shields weren't "over-performing" in PvE. Healers were just under-performing, because they put all these ridiculous and cumbersome targeting restraints on heals and then wonder why people were relying on shields instead to keep them alive. So this is not going to make "healers" more valuable in PvE. The only thing this change is likely to do is make damage-dealers self-heal instead of self-shield.
So it was just another silly band aid to try and cover up this game's real problem: which is a fundamental misunderstanding of healers generally and how to make the role effective.
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✭✭Obviously a l2p issue. Don't get hit by mechanics and you won't need a shield to begin with."I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
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✭✭✭Both changes were death for mag builds. the only difference is the one second cast time was a nuke and the cap was carpet bombing. The one second cast time was marginally worse. We knew this was barely an improvement going into it.
The nerf to shields was a bad call by @ZOS_RobGarrett and @ZOS_Wrobel that should never have made it to live. They nerfed it way to hard even by zos sledge hammer balancing standards. They need to suck up their pride for the "vision" of the game that the consumer doesnt want and change this.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭My magwarden did nMA on my first attempt ever at MA. PvE content it's a ton of fun to play, likewise in Cyro too.
Created a MagSorc a few days ago and likewise I'm having lots of fun with that build so far. Can't understand the people crying who never can adapt to things.
You ran nMA and decided combat was all good?
I don't mean to downplay your achievement, but try it on vet with your mag Warden and let me know how it goes.
Vet Ma on magwarden is easy. Even before shields change I was barely using them there.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I dunno, I saw a mag sorc do vAS yesterday. They didnt seem to have any problems.
Also my 17K health and no shields stamblade's heart bleeds for you while playing the world's smallest violin.
You mean you actually have to actually avoid damage now instead of playing turtle behind your massive shield
Boo Hoo
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✭the people pulling 600k scores in vma and tanking 8 people in pvp solo with a mag sorc would disagree.
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✭✭✭✭✭OP, if you’re having trouble staying alive in normal dungeons there might be something to say for chucking your ego aside and learning a bit about builds and skill rotations. They’re not gonna revert the changes to what they’re were, nor are they going to add shield strength back and then go the cast time route. And since shields are still perfectly viable in PvE content if played properly then you need to l2p instead of yelling at everyone.3 -
Thrain✭✭✭✭Like why the hell you feel like you can speak for everyone? there are a lot of eso players that are not speaking out about this, and you made a chaos after ZOS planned on having a cast time on shields, now they nerfed shields to the ground and its so much harder and not fun to play mag classes in pve, it completely changed pve for me for the worst. i have to spam shields way more often and when i do, it really doesnt feel like i used it as enemies melt it like nothing, so we are basically stam players with way less survivability.
and if we use more resistance? well there goes our dps to the garbage.
Even on *** normal dungeons my sorc or my magwarden cant stay alive(15k resis), this is pathetic! my dps right now is 30-33k with both, so i not a new player or something (600cp), and im not making it up and im sure every mag players know that this is broken.
The changes on shields should not have applied to PVE, its not fair or fun anymore.
you all should have shut up when they announced the 1 second cast time. of course that would suck too but now its like not using shields at all. removed completely from PVE.
Now think about the cast time and pvp everyone who cant anim cancel it is rip
Tbh with that change my magsorc got way stronger in pvp and for pve i dont need a dmg shield on my magblade except vdsa cuz i had a offheal instead of a real heal^^0 -
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✭Like why the hell you feel like you can speak for everyone? there are a lot of eso players that are not speaking out about this, and you made a chaos after ZOS planned on having a cast time on shields, now they nerfed shields to the ground and its so much harder and not fun to play mag classes in pve, it completely changed pve for me for the worst. i have to spam shields way more often and when i do, it really doesnt feel like i used it as enemies melt it like nothing, so we are basically stam players with way less survivability.
and if we use more resistance? well there goes our dps to the garbage.
Even on *** normal dungeons my sorc or my magwarden cant stay alive(15k resis), this is pathetic! my dps right now is 30-33k with both, so i not a new player or something (600cp), and im not making it up and im sure every mag players know that this is broken.
The changes on shields should not have applied to PVE, its not fair or fun anymore.
you all should have shut up when they announced the 1 second cast time. of course that would suck too but now its like not using shields at all. removed completely from PVE.
I agree the changes stink. If you're getting melted in normal dungeons I can help with magden or magsorc advice. Norms are still super easy. On magden vets are as well with proper setup. Haven't touched vet with sorc since shield changes.0
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