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I would be fine with 1 second cast time...
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talfx5✭✭✭Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?0 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.7 -
mustangmorgan31✭✭✭✭Just play another class that you don't need to rely entirely on a shield to survive or make the character you have more survivable.
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talfx5✭✭✭Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.1 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.5 -
wolf486✭✭✭✭Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
As a filthy casual myself who plays this game to chill, magic based classes are just fine. I stopped playing my stam characters as I find magic based ones (wardens and sorcs) far more fun to play.PC/NAMoved onto BDO and GW2 Skyrim, ATS/ETS2, ACNH and the overall goodness of single player games
RIP to the following:
(DC) Tharbûrz gro-Glumgrog - Orsimer -Stamden (lvl 50)
(AD) Vukz - Bosmer - Stamblade (lvl 50)2 -
GreenhaloX✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ha ha ha.. not that I like the shield over-nerfed, but that is how stam toons have been. Stam shield have always suck for a long time, and now sorc's shield has come to suck the same. Well, the developers/designers that nerfed it suck too.2 -
talfx5✭✭✭Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.0 -
mustangmorgan31✭✭✭✭Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Out of the changes to shields, which do you think is the biggest nerf?
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SilverIce58✭✭✭✭✭
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Its funny you say that because you're acting like a child, whereas everyone else is acting like an adult.PC - NACP 1125
Veric Blackwood - Breton Magsorc DC
Xhiak-Qua'cthurus - Argonian Frost Warden EP
Kujata-qa - Khajiit Magplar AD
Suunleth-dar - Khajiit Stamblade AD
Teldryn Antharys - Dunmer Flame DK EP
Strikes-With-Venom - Argonian Poison DK EP
Rur'san-ra - Khajiit WW Stamsorc AD
Ilianos Solinar - Altmer Stamplar AD
Iscah Silver-Heart - Reachman Magden DC3 -
talfx5✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Out of the changes to shields, which do you think is the biggest nerf?
Shields are the main thing that shouldnt have been nerfed. the rest i dont see them as game changing.Edited by talfx5 on December 7, 2018 1:14AM0 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Fun went years ago pal, play how you want just know the shields change was needed no matter what you say, think or make up. If you want an easy game experience play candy crush.2 -
talfx5✭✭✭Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Fun went years ago pal, play how you want just know the shields change was needed no matter what you say, think or make up. If you want an easy game experience play candy crush.
Easy? no im fine with a challenge. but there is challenge that is fun, and there is a boring bad challenge.
Wolfenstein 1 and Wolfenstein 2 are a perfect example of this.
2 was way harder, yet it was the most boring bad challenge. while the first one balanced the challenge with joy and made you put time into it because it was actually fun.
But you keep twist my words and jump into conclusion to please some unknown readers and make yourself look better and cool. damn people are so obvious and pathetic these days.Edited by talfx5 on December 7, 2018 1:22AM0 -
mustangmorgan31✭✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Out of the changes to shields, which do you think is the biggest nerf?
Shields are the main thing that shouldnt have been nerfed. the rest i dont see much them as game changing.
To me I feel the nerf was more for PVP not PVE since PVE monsters do not crit. Your resistance reduces the incoming damage before it is applied to your shield.0 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Out of the changes to shields, which do you think is the biggest nerf?
Shields are the main thing that shouldnt have been nerfed. the rest i dont see much them as game changing.
To me I feel the nerf was more for PVP not PVE since PVE monsters do not crit. Your resistance reduces the incoming damage before it is applied to your shield.
OP doesn't understand that shields used to scale with magicka and so did magicka damage, so rightfully they changed it because your protection and damage shouldn't scale off the same attribute as some builds were making this way too powerful.
The change only really effects pvp but they are still very strong, it doesn't really effect pve if you know what you are doing.
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Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Fun went years ago pal, play how you want just know the shields change was needed no matter what you say, think or make up. If you want an easy game experience play candy crush.
Easy? no im fine with a challenge. but there is challenge that is fun, and there is a boring bad challenge.
Wolfenstein 1 and Wolfenstein 2 are a perfect example of this.
2 was way harder, yet it was the most boring bad challenge. while the first one balanced the challenge with joy and made you put time into it because it was actually fun.
But you keep twist my words and jump into conclusion to please some unknown readers and make yourself look better and cool. damn people are so obvious and pathetic these days.
I asked you what specifically your problem was so I could help and you didn't answer, I don't know how to respond to a post about Wolfenstein because its not relevant to how the shield change effected your game enjoyment.2 -
Elara_Northwind✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@Stebarnz bless you for trying to help this guy. I'm shocked by the rudeness of some people...Sorcerer, Templar, Wolf Collector, Housing Addict!
GM of Salted Wings Tavern and Salted Wings Housing 🏠🌻
'A House is Built with Boards and Beams, a Home is Built with Love and Dreams'
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talfx5✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Out of the changes to shields, which do you think is the biggest nerf?
Shields are the main thing that shouldnt have been nerfed. the rest i dont see much them as game changing.
To me I feel the nerf was more for PVP not PVE since PVE monsters do not crit. Your resistance reduces the incoming damage before it is applied to your shield.
OP doesn't understand that shields used to scale with magicka and so did magicka damage, so rightfully they changed it because your protection and damage shouldn't scale off the same attribute as some builds were making this way too powerful.
The change only really effects pvp but they are still very strong, it doesn't really effect pve if you know what you are doing.
I understand better than you buddy. pve got nerfed really hard for mag classes. too much. that is it.Edited by talfx5 on December 7, 2018 1:32AM0 -
mustangmorgan31✭✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Out of the changes to shields, which do you think is the biggest nerf?
Shields are the main thing that shouldnt have been nerfed. the rest i dont see much them as game changing.
To me I feel the nerf was more for PVP not PVE since PVE monsters do not crit. Your resistance reduces the incoming damage before it is applied to your shield.
OP doesn't understand that shields used to scale with magicka and so did magicka damage, so rightfully they changed it because your protection and damage shouldn't scale off the same attribute as some builds were making this way too powerful.
The change only really effects pvp but they are still very strong, it doesn't really effect pve if you know what you are doing.
I understand better than you buddy. pve got nerfed really hard for mag classes. too much. that is it.
My magplar is more of a beast now. PVE did not get nerfed for ALL mag classes. I think we should group up with you and see what exactly is the issue during a dungeon run.3 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Out of the changes to shields, which do you think is the biggest nerf?
Shields are the main thing that shouldnt have been nerfed. the rest i dont see much them as game changing.
To me I feel the nerf was more for PVP not PVE since PVE monsters do not crit. Your resistance reduces the incoming damage before it is applied to your shield.
OP doesn't understand that shields used to scale with magicka and so did magicka damage, so rightfully they changed it because your protection and damage shouldn't scale off the same attribute as some builds were making this way too powerful.
The change only really effects pvp but they are still very strong, it doesn't really effect pve if you know what you are doing.
I understand better than you buddy. pve got nerfed really hard for mag classes. too much. that is it.
You are proving you don't understand better than me, just write specifically what you are struggling with, what dungeon, what boss, what skills etc and ill try to help, my time is very valuable and im offering to you for free.
I have over 30 characters spread over 4 accounts 20 are over 1000 cp and all geared, if you think you know better than me that's cool but honestly you don't.
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FrancisCrawford✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭If you know the fights well enough to properly time a cast-time shield you should be able to survive using a variety of other strategies as well.
Or if you're playing for 100% shield uptime -- well, then this was basically a sustain nerf. ZoS does that a lot.
I dislike the actual change, but cast time shields would have been even worse.4 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭Elara_Northwind wrote: »@Stebarnz bless you for trying to help this guy. I'm shocked by the rudeness of some people...
thankyou, I just wanna help because im a bit worried at the state of gameplay ive seen on this dungeon event.
Ive helped a few people and they understand how the game works now and they have more fun on the game, that's where im finding a lot of fun on this game now.2 -
talfx5✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Out of the changes to shields, which do you think is the biggest nerf?
Shields are the main thing that shouldnt have been nerfed. the rest i dont see much them as game changing.
To me I feel the nerf was more for PVP not PVE since PVE monsters do not crit. Your resistance reduces the incoming damage before it is applied to your shield.
OP doesn't understand that shields used to scale with magicka and so did magicka damage, so rightfully they changed it because your protection and damage shouldn't scale off the same attribute as some builds were making this way too powerful.
The change only really effects pvp but they are still very strong, it doesn't really effect pve if you know what you are doing.
I understand better than you buddy. pve got nerfed really hard for mag classes. too much. that is it.
You are proving you don't understand better than me, just write specifically what you are struggling with, what dungeon, what boss, what skills etc and ill try to help, my time is very valuable and im offering to you for free.
I have over 30 characters spread over 4 accounts 20 are over 1000 cp and all geared, if you think you know better than me that's cool but honestly you don't.
Yes, i do know better, knowledge is more than time. would you say all old men are smarter than all younger men? ofcourse not , This apply to the game as well, this alone should make you rethink all you wrote.
and i dont need your help, i know you are being sarcastic. i said it a few times i dont have any problems. i gave a full explanation before.
Pve for mag classes got worse. that the end of it, you cant change it, its obvious to so many people who are not commenting on the forum.
Edited by talfx5 on December 7, 2018 1:43AM0 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
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Yes, i do know better, knowledge is more than time. would you say all old men are smarter than all younger men? ofcourse not , This apply to the game as well, this alone should make you rethink all you wrote.mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Out of the changes to shields, which do you think is the biggest nerf?
Shields are the main thing that shouldnt have been nerfed. the rest i dont see much them as game changing.
To me I feel the nerf was more for PVP not PVE since PVE monsters do not crit. Your resistance reduces the incoming damage before it is applied to your shield.
OP doesn't understand that shields used to scale with magicka and so did magicka damage, so rightfully they changed it because your protection and damage shouldn't scale off the same attribute as some builds were making this way too powerful.
The change only really effects pvp but they are still very strong, it doesn't really effect pve if you know what you are doing.
I understand better than you buddy. pve got nerfed really hard for mag classes. too much. that is it.
You are proving you don't understand better than me, just write specifically what you are struggling with, what dungeon, what boss, what skills etc and ill try to help, my time is very valuable and im offering to you for free.
I have over 30 characters spread over 4 accounts 20 are over 1000 cp and all geared, if you think you know better than me that's cool but honestly you don't.
and i dont need your help, i know you are being sarcastic. i said it a few times i dont have any problems. i gave a full explanation before.
Pve for mag classes got worse. that the end of it, you cant change it, its obvious to so many people who are not commenting on the forum.
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They were not being sarcastic, jesus you need to wake up and smell the coffee. its cool man im done there is no helping some people. I hope you find a way around your problem..... whatever it is im still not sure.
Peace.2 -
mustangmorgan31✭✭✭✭
Yes, i do know better, knowledge is more than time. would you say all old men are smarter than all younger men? ofcourse not , This apply to the game as well, this alone should make you rethink all you wrote.mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Out of the changes to shields, which do you think is the biggest nerf?
Shields are the main thing that shouldnt have been nerfed. the rest i dont see much them as game changing.
To me I feel the nerf was more for PVP not PVE since PVE monsters do not crit. Your resistance reduces the incoming damage before it is applied to your shield.
OP doesn't understand that shields used to scale with magicka and so did magicka damage, so rightfully they changed it because your protection and damage shouldn't scale off the same attribute as some builds were making this way too powerful.
The change only really effects pvp but they are still very strong, it doesn't really effect pve if you know what you are doing.
I understand better than you buddy. pve got nerfed really hard for mag classes. too much. that is it.
You are proving you don't understand better than me, just write specifically what you are struggling with, what dungeon, what boss, what skills etc and ill try to help, my time is very valuable and im offering to you for free.
I have over 30 characters spread over 4 accounts 20 are over 1000 cp and all geared, if you think you know better than me that's cool but honestly you don't.
and i dont need your help, i know you are being sarcastic. i said it a few times i dont have any problems. i gave a full explanation before.
Pve for mag classes got worse. that the end of it, you cant change it, its obvious to so many people who are not commenting on the forum.
They were not being sarcastic, jesus you need to wake up and smell the coffee. its cool man im done there is no helping some people. I hope you find a way around your problem..... whatever it is im still not sure.
Peace.[/quote]
I am confused. He said he doesn't have a problem but he says he dies in normal dungeons? if you die in normal dungeons than yes I would say you do have a problem.2 -
talfx5✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Ok, im seeing a pattern here. let me make it simple for you all.
first of all, no, i can go to any dungeon and not die. that goes without saying.
BUT,if im playing like before, i will die, and not only that, i will have to play it so passively, and its just not fun. yes try to twist my words, to make you arguments true i guess? pathetic.
OK I only tried to help, if you build a glass cannon then you are squishy, all they did was bring shields inline which now they are a lot better, not perfect but better.
The game evolves with every introduction of new bugs or re-emergence of old bugs sorry I mean 'DLC updates' you must evolve with it or get left behind.
Play how you want.
Wait so shields have gotten better? nice good to know.
You know im not talking pvp right?
I can get my resis up, anyone can, but it will not be enough.
if you do, you would lose a ton of damage compared to before the patch, how is that a buff? are you that dumb?
Shields used to be a massive crutch for players who are not very good, they were overperforming, they were brought back inline with other skills, they fit into the game a lot better pvp and pve, stop trying to make the game too easy.
Stop trying to make the game so sweaty. its a *** mmo game. i got my real competitive games, this is just to chill. playing this competitively is sad. there are so many competitive problems to this and the only thing thats left is the joy with the basics, dont ruin that people.
There is no talking to you, listen to literally everyone who has answered you, you are WRONG!
People who play all classes mag and stam understand why shields had to change.
If you want to relax and play this game that's cool, stick to content you can do and don't stress yourself, I like a little challenge so ill go with more difficult content.
Stay classy.
So because some people here said some things, i have to drop what i think? oh man... you are too young im sure.
No. i see what i see, i learn what i learn. i see that there is a serious problem. the fun of it is mosly gone.
and getting them nerfed that much is just not right, thats a really big *** nerf.
Out of the changes to shields, which do you think is the biggest nerf?
Shields are the main thing that shouldnt have been nerfed. the rest i dont see much them as game changing.
To me I feel the nerf was more for PVP not PVE since PVE monsters do not crit. Your resistance reduces the incoming damage before it is applied to your shield.
OP doesn't understand that shields used to scale with magicka and so did magicka damage, so rightfully they changed it because your protection and damage shouldn't scale off the same attribute as some builds were making this way too powerful.
The change only really effects pvp but they are still very strong, it doesn't really effect pve if you know what you are doing.
I understand better than you buddy. pve got nerfed really hard for mag classes. too much. that is it.
You are proving you don't understand better than me, just write specifically what you are struggling with, what dungeon, what boss, what skills etc and ill try to help, my time is very valuable and im offering to you for free.
I have over 30 characters spread over 4 accounts 20 are over 1000 cp and all geared, if you think you know better than me that's cool but honestly you don't.Elara_Northwind wrote: »@Stebarnz bless you for trying to help this guy. I'm shocked by the rudeness of some people...
thankyou, I just wanna help because im a bit worried at the state of gameplay ive seen on this dungeon event.
Ive helped a few people and they understand how the game works now and they have more fun on the game, that's where im finding a lot of fun on this game now.
IDK if you are being sarcastic or not. im not a new player. solid dps, i know what im doing. probably will beat you in a duel. but i dont see much skill there.0
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