Mureel wrote: »

Well good - you have 51 other weeks to take 30 min to do 10 min dungeon.

You will get a random dungeon reward every 20 hours from the last reward received. In order to receive the bonus reward, you must queue for the dungeon as a random dungeon using the Dungeon Finder. If you queued via the Dungeon Finder, you will be eligible for the reward. If you were manually invited, you will not receive a reward.

The rewards and experience are automatically sent to you after the final boss of the dungeon dies.

You can read more about dungeon rewards here.

Here’s what you need to do to participate:

Navigate to the Group & Activity Finder
Select Dungeon Finder
Select either Random Normal Dungeon or Random Veteran Dungeon
Select your role (DPS, healing, or tanking) and queue up
In order to earn a Mysterious Reward Box, you will need to complete the dungeon by defeating its final boss.

Note: You receive Mysterious Reward Boxes as part of your character's daily random dungeon rewards.

Das ist sicher nicht im Sinne des Erfinders, wie man so schön sagt. Allerdings verstehe ich auch, wenn jemand z.B. in der Mittagspause oder bei begrenzter Zeit im Spiel unglücklich ist, wenn er bei Zufallsverliesen eines der komplizierteren oder längerwierigeren zugewiesen bekommt.

Ich sehe keinen Grund, das zu ahnden aber vielleicht können wir es spieltechnisch für die Zukunft unterbinden.

That is certainly not in the sense of the inventor, as the saying goes. However, I also understand when someone, e.g. is unhappy in the lunch break or limited time in the game, when he gets assigned to one of the more complicated or longer-lasting random dungeons.

I see no reason to punish this, but maybe we can stop it for the future.

John_Falstaff wrote: »

@Zatox , good attempt, but no cigar. You forgot the very important article "the". You must complete the dungeon resulted from the use of the finder, anything else is cheating.

ZOS_KaiSchober wrote: »

Gerne nochmal:

Ist es erwünscht, das zugeloste Verlies zu verlassen, um ein leichteres zu laufen? Nein.

Ist das ein Exploit? Kann man diskutieren, weil es das Spiel ja nicht verhindert. Es verstößt aber klar gegen den Designgedanken eines zufälligen Verlieses.

Werden wir es ahnden? Nein, denn abgesehen von der Tatsache, dass einige den billigen Weg gehen und sich Inhalte zurechtbiegen, entsteht anderen Mitspielern kein Schaden. Empörung ist da übertrieben. Man kann höchstens Mitleid haben haben, wenn Leute aus Faulheit lieber jeden Tag die Pilzgrotte laufen statt such abwechselnden Herausforderungen zu stellen.

Sollten wir es nich weiter breittreten? Nein, denn je mehr drüber reden, desto mehr werden in Versuchung kommen, es ebenso zu machen, weil sie nuch die "einzig Dummen sein wollen, die den schwierigeren Weg gehen".

John_Falstaff wrote: »

@The_Saint , @sudaki_eso , for one, it's from admin, not community manager, there were disagreements in the past; second, punishing people for the exploit isn't even the subject of the thread. Yes, he does state they won't punish people, but what we're discussing here are different; one is, whether it's exploit or not (not only 'yes', but it's against terms of the event, even if they're going to be lenient about it), and another is the practice of pulling random teammates into FG1 without asking them. So, those two things.

In essence, it is an exploit. It's basically a similar thing to the exploit in Asylum that happened not too long ago. Back then, people got slapped and then there were cries - why am I slapped for it, I just got into the team, I did what everyone did, I didn't know we're doing some exploit. And I can understand those people, they may be absolutely genuine - they just ran along, did what everyone does. It's just they got rotten teammates who didn't bother to explain them what's going on, and here's the result, all involved parties get slapped. This situation with FG1 is essentially the same, the only difference is that trespass is minor, no leaderboards involved, and people aren't likely to be punished, but it doesn't suddenly make it less of a trespass.