Game should not show Gametag ID

Jurand80 · November 2018

I don't need a user id to know if someone is a female. All they need to do is start chatting.

Elwendryll · November 2018

Can't you... I mean...
Is that limited to only 1 time? Or is it on a monthly basis? Or. something like that.

FleetwoodSmack · November 2018

Jimmy wrote: »

The problem isn't sexism, the problem is skill gap. I've never seen, in over 4 years playing ES0, blatant sexism towards a gamer. Though, I have a million times seen newbism towards a gamer.

To be fair, there's quieter spots of the community where it DOES happen and I'm making a small generalization here; usually it's in poorly managed guilds. And I've seen it swing from men being sexist to women and women being sexist to men. As far as the thread goes? According to the DPS range, 28k is low enough where I've heard a lot of people in the group finder getting kicked as well. Especially if there's a wipe in vet content. So I'm not at all surprised.

Salvas_Aren · November 2018

goldenflameslinger wrote: »

I’m a guy but in general, I think women in the game command more respect than men. Most of the guilds I am in, the leader is a woman. They are both tough and understanding at the same time. I have never seen/heard anyone pick on or degrade a woman...unless she was trying to sell a vampire bite in zone chat!

Well, I actually did it once. She kicked me from the guild because I wrote *clean chat is lame* in the guild chat.

I questioned this, asked several guildies what happened and they responded, she had a bad day.

I told her it was just a joke and I didn't consider her action appropriate. Then she stated I would deserve another chance.

And that was the reason. As simple as that. Maybe I assaulted her for her gender. Maybe a guy would never have told me that I deserved another chance, just simply reinvited me or never kicked me in the first place.

Thoragaal · November 2018

IndyWendieGo wrote: »

Jimmy wrote: »

The problem isn't sexism, the problem is skill gap. I've never seen, in over 4 years playing ES0, blatant sexism towards a gamer. Though, I have a million times seen newbism towards a gamer.

To be fair, there's quieter spots of the community where it DOES happen and I'm making a small generalization here; usually it's in poorly managed guilds. And I've seen it swing from men being sexist to women and women being sexist to men. As far as the thread goes? According to the DPS range, 28k is low enough where I've heard a lot of people in the group finder getting kicked as well. Especially if there's a wipe in vet content. So I'm not at all surprised.

And some people flat out want to vote kick others on the spot because they're not max cp.

FleetwoodSmack · November 2018

Elwendryll wrote: »

Can't you... I mean...
Is that limited to only 1 time? Or is it on a monthly basis? Or. something like that.

I'd go by what this page says here;

https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6894/~/how-do-i-change-my-elder-scrolls-online-userid?

To quote;

If you would like to change your ESO UserID, follow the steps below:
Sign in to your ESO account here.

Under Account Info, select Edit Account Info.

Select the EDIT button next to your current UserID.

Enter new UserID, answer your secret question, and click SAVE.

Check the email account associated with your ESO account for the required Access Code.

Enter the Access Code in the Access Code field.

This confirmation will automatically log you out of the account page.

Sign back in to your account to confirm that UserID change has occurred.

You will now have a new ESO UserID!

Please note that if you are logged in to the game when performing a UserID change, you will need to log out and back in to complete the process.

Console Players: Please note that console accounts will not automatically have a UserID if the account verification was not completed. After you have created your ESO account on console (Xbox One or PlayStation 4), you have 72 hours to verify it via an email sent to the address associated with your account. If you have not received a verification email, you can request another one by pressing [X] (Xbox One) or [Circle] (PS4) at the prompt.

It says nothing about having a limit and I know someone who personally has changed their name literally five times. There's a cooldown, I can't remember if it was a month or a week, but... There ya go.

ATomiX96 · November 2018

this went from a special snowflake to a whiny SJW thread really fast, oh wait its the same ***.
Go with your SJW *** to reddit.

Aluneth · November 2018

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

goldenflameslinger wrote: »

I’m a guy but in general, I think women in the game command more respect than men. Most of the guilds I am in, the leader is a woman. They are both tough and understanding at the same time. I have never seen/heard anyone pick on or degrade a woman...unless she was trying to sell a vampire bite in zone chat!

Well, I actually did it once. She kicked me from the guild because I wrote *clean chat is lame* in the guild chat.

I questioned this, asked several guildies what happened and they responded, she had a bad day.

I told her it was just a joke and I didn't consider her action appropriate. Then she stated I would deserve another chance.

And that was the reason. As simple as that. Maybe I assaulted her for her gender. Maybe a guy would never have told me that I deserved another chance, just simply reinvited me or never kicked me in the first place.

I hope you didn't accept the invite back to that guild.

Elwendryll · November 2018

Brittany_Joy wrote: »

CP 390+ , blood Moon/hundings rage/ agility set bonuses. 15k-28k DPS

I'm impressed. I'm cp 720+ and I do only 34k, I was nowhere near your score at your level, congrats. But I have to ask, is that solo buffed dps on a solo target? Because a 13k range of dps seems odd. Maybe it's because I have more practice and I am more consistent, but even with lag I rarely have more than a 5k variation, even in dungeons.

FleetwoodSmack · November 2018

Thoragaal wrote: »

IndyWendieGo wrote: »

Jimmy wrote: »

The problem isn't sexism, the problem is skill gap. I've never seen, in over 4 years playing ES0, blatant sexism towards a gamer. Though, I have a million times seen newbism towards a gamer.

To be fair, there's quieter spots of the community where it DOES happen and I'm making a small generalization here; usually it's in poorly managed guilds. And I've seen it swing from men being sexist to women and women being sexist to men. As far as the thread goes? According to the DPS range, 28k is low enough where I've heard a lot of people in the group finder getting kicked as well. Especially if there's a wipe in vet content. So I'm not at all surprised.

And some people flat out want to vote kick others on the spot because they're not max cp.

Yeah. Yeeeeeeeeah. I stopped using groupfinder a long time ago for a number of reasons. Biggest one was that I found a fun guild who actually supports my trolling antics (like meat sacking the Pinion), or running a full raid with everyone wearing nothing but the Maw of the Infernal set. So... Many... Daedroth. So many. So so many. We were still outmatched by Ozara, but eh. You get the idea.

Brittany_Joy · November 2018

@MokiDono @IndyWendieGo The example does not mean the event didn't happen nor implies fabrication of said event. I have experienced direct sexism in chat relating to domination and threats by other players based on my account name. Some people are nicer and some people are absolutely horrible in what they say to me when they realize I am a woman.

I have played with gladiators from wow and diamonds from lol and some men in voice chat directly insulted me because they knew I was a woman. I have been in voice chat with male friends who make sexist remarks to other women who they have constructed their own way of determining women apart from men in games. Being nice isn't a criteria for them. It is other subconscious feminine trait

Edit: other examples. A man said "I needed to be put on a leash" I didn't say anything obviously and my male friends and I laughed about it.

Another example is when I was threatened with sexual assault in multiple scenarios. I didn't add that in the original post cause it is heavy and just gets darker from there.

Salvas_Aren · November 2018

Aluneth wrote: »

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

goldenflameslinger wrote: »

I’m a guy but in general, I think women in the game command more respect than men. Most of the guilds I am in, the leader is a woman. They are both tough and understanding at the same time. I have never seen/heard anyone pick on or degrade a woman...unless she was trying to sell a vampire bite in zone chat!

Well, I actually did it once. She kicked me from the guild because I wrote *clean chat is lame* in the guild chat.

I questioned this, asked several guildies what happened and they responded, she had a bad day.

I told her it was just a joke and I didn't consider her action appropriate. Then she stated I would deserve another chance.

And that was the reason. As simple as that. Maybe I assaulted her for her gender. Maybe a guy would never have told me that I deserved another chance, just simply reinvited me or never kicked me in the first place.

I hope you didn't accept the invite back to that guild.

For my or for her sake?

I gave her a whisp that ended me on her ignore list. Well, I must admit that I deserved THIS action.

Aluneth · November 2018

Brittany_Joy wrote: »

@MokiDono @IndyWendieGo The example does not mean the event didn't happen nor implies fabrication of said event. I have experienced direct sexism in chat relating to domination and threats by other players based on my account name. Some people are nicer and some people are absolutely horrible in what they say to me when they realize I am a woman.

I have played with gladiators from wow and diamonds from lol and some men in voice chat directly insulted me because they knew I was a woman. I have been in voice chat with male friends who make sexist remarks to other women who they have constructed their own way of determining women apart from men in games. Being nice isn't a criteria for them. It is other subconscious feminine traits

In my experience, the 'elite' often tends to be more toxic and abusive. Perhaps pick different people to play with.

BNOC · November 2018

Just out of interest - What's the point in a "personal ID" if you're going to hide it?

Aluneth wrote: »

Brittany_Joy wrote: »

@MokiDono @IndyWendieGo The example does not mean the event didn't happen nor implies fabrication of said event. I have experienced direct sexism in chat relating to domination and threats by other players based on my account name. Some people are nicer and some people are absolutely horrible in what they say to me when they realize I am a woman.

I have played with gladiators from wow and diamonds from lol and some men in voice chat directly insulted me because they knew I was a woman. I have been in voice chat with male friends who make sexist remarks to other women who they have constructed their own way of determining women apart from men in games. Being nice isn't a criteria for them. It is other subconscious feminine traits

In my experience, the 'elite' often tends to be more toxic and abusive. Perhaps pick different people to play with.

In my experience, the 'elite' in this situation are often the ones who tend to not give a *** who is controlling the character and care purely about performance.

Judging by the type of reply in this thread ("I can't prove it is sexism"), this is classic case of "feelings over facts"; conformation bias at it's finest.

Brittany_Joy wrote: »

I have experienced direct sexism in chat relating to domination and threats by other players based on my account name.

Since this topic hits so close to home and really upsets you to the point of a feature request - Have you got screenshots of the above happening - That would surely be proof enough; proof that you're currently lacking.

Fur_like_snow · November 2018

I am not a fan of hiding @names. In fact one of the first things I do when I make a new character is display account @names. Players can have 15 characters on one account it would be unreasonable to try to remember who is who in my guild.

FleetwoodSmack · November 2018

Brittany_Joy wrote: »

@MokiDono @IndyWendieGo The example does not mean the event didn't happen nor implies fabrication of said event. I have experienced direct sexism in chat relating to domination and threats by other players based on my account name. Some people are nicer and some people are absolutely horrible in what they say to me when they realize I am a woman.

I have played with gladiators from wow and diamonds from lol and some men in voice chat directly insulted me because they knew I was a woman. I have been in voice chat with male friends who make sexist remarks to other women who they have constructed their own way of determining women apart from men in games. Being nice isn't a criteria for them. It is other subconscious feminine traits

And I'm not doubting that you have encountered sexism. But the fact that you lied about your 'example', profusely editing your posts backward just to prove something that was never true about said 'example' still doesn't really make me want to converse with you.

Brittany_Joy · November 2018

Aluneth wrote: »

Brittany_Joy wrote: »

@MokiDono @IndyWendieGo The example does not mean the event didn't happen nor implies fabrication of said event. I have experienced direct sexism in chat relating to domination and threats by other players based on my account name. Some people are nicer and some people are absolutely horrible in what they say to me when they realize I am a woman.

I have played with gladiators from wow and diamonds from lol and some men in voice chat directly insulted me because they knew I was a woman. I have been in voice chat with male friends who make sexist remarks to other women who they have constructed their own way of determining women apart from men in games. Being nice isn't a criteria for them. It is other subconscious feminine traits

In my experience, the 'elite' often tends to be more toxic and abusive. Perhaps pick different people to play with.

I play with them because they are my friends and actually invite me back to group stuff. It's just some randoms that join that can get very toxic.

@BNOC , I don't keep a log of all the times I experienced sexism, that is just depressing. I also didn't figure out how to take screenshots till way later.

The_Brosteen · November 2018

Pro tip: put somethings like "bro" or "dude" in your GT or @ name and everyone will assume you're a man.

Aluneth · November 2018

The_Brosteen wrote: »

Pro tip: put somethings like "bro" or "dude" in your GT or @ name and everyone will assume you're a man.

And then she'll get all the benefits of being a male. I can with certainty tell you that she'll get just as much abuse, if not even more.

Brittany_Joy · November 2018

IndyWendieGo wrote: »

Brittany_Joy wrote: »

@MokiDono @IndyWendieGo The example does not mean the event didn't happen nor implies fabrication of said event. I have experienced direct sexism in chat relating to domination and threats by other players based on my account name. Some people are nicer and some people are absolutely horrible in what they say to me when they realize I am a woman.

I have played with gladiators from wow and diamonds from lol and some men in voice chat directly insulted me because they knew I was a woman. I have been in voice chat with male friends who make sexist remarks to other women who they have constructed their own way of determining women apart from men in games. Being nice isn't a criteria for them. It is other subconscious feminine traits

And I'm not doubting that you have encountered sexism. But the fact that you lied about your 'example', profusely editing your posts backward just to prove something that was never true about said 'example' still doesn't really make me want to converse with you.

The example is not a lie. It is an actual event that I used as a reference example for my main point. I edited posts to reduce length by cutting restatements. He may have removed me because of my gender but it was also a combination of the other things like my HP and how my current playstyle implies I am going for the same set. It's not an ultimatum. I just hate how my name can add leverage to their choice to exclude me from that one scenario and others as well. AvA had some examples too with voice chat but obviously I just left and the incident was through third party so not report worthy.

reprosal · November 2018

I can’t even believe this thread merited this many replies.

What’s next... male gamers are more priviledged?

Dragonnord · November 2018

This is a trolling thread to talk about sexism. OP didn't even care to respond to my questions about gaming issues if ID is removed from view.

Kagukan · November 2018

I agree there should be an option to hide gametag ID. I disagree your in game issues have anything to do with you being a female.

Sparr0w · November 2018

Every form of ism (racism, sexism etc) still exists everywhere, not just in game. Live with it or report people, same as you would do IRL, or retaliate choice is yours.

As for being kicked people do it for no reason, you can literally be the only player actually doing something in the dungeon & still get kicked.

Odovacar · November 2018

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dotme · November 2018

I wouldn't be at all surprised if displaying the XBOX/PSN Gamertag on an online game is required by Sony/Microsoft.

How else would anyone be able to file a report on a player?

I've witnessed all kinds of bad behavior in ESO, but then there are bad characters out there. I've also found great behavior, and good guilds that are run by GMs who don't tolerate homophobic/misogynistic/racist a-holes.

Brittany_Joy · November 2018

Dragonnord wrote: »

This is a trolling thread to talk about sexism. OP didn't even care to respond to my questions about gaming issues if ID is removed from view.

I told you ZOS has access to character names associated with accounts and chat logs, other combat logs. A simple alternative like a Bnet Battletag or discord tag would suffice. There really is no impact on the game and a player's ability to retrieve general info about another player. I didn't know my account name was going to be public, usually there is an account name and a username for public settings.

FleetwoodSmack · November 2018

Brittany_Joy wrote: »

IndyWendieGo wrote: »

Brittany_Joy wrote: »

@MokiDono @IndyWendieGo The example does not mean the event didn't happen nor implies fabrication of said event. I have experienced direct sexism in chat relating to domination and threats by other players based on my account name. Some people are nicer and some people are absolutely horrible in what they say to me when they realize I am a woman.

I have played with gladiators from wow and diamonds from lol and some men in voice chat directly insulted me because they knew I was a woman. I have been in voice chat with male friends who make sexist remarks to other women who they have constructed their own way of determining women apart from men in games. Being nice isn't a criteria for them. It is other subconscious feminine traits

And I'm not doubting that you have encountered sexism. But the fact that you lied about your 'example', profusely editing your posts backward just to prove something that was never true about said 'example' still doesn't really make me want to converse with you.

The example is not a lie. It is an actual event that I used as a reference example for my main point. I edited posts to reduce length by cutting restatements. He may have removed me because of my gender but it was also a combination of the other things like my HP and how my current playstyle implies I am going for the same set. It's not an ultimatum. I just hate how my name can add leverage to their choice to exclude me from that one scenario and others as well. AvA had some examples too with voice chat but obviously I just left and the incident was through third party so not report worthy.

So the following isn't your words? (Rhetorical question)

Brittany_Joy wrote: »

Iol I already said it. The other DPS was the leader. I did 25-65% of the group damage and got kicked cause he was the leader and he used his associate to kick me as my playstyle is obvious I am going for the same set. I laugh at the fact everyone is fixating on this one scenario to discredit me.

No where do you say that it was 'gender' related. No where did you say there was a conversation about your gender. You. Assumed. Such. Assumed. This is the reason why people took issue with your 'example'. Because it wasn't true and people can spot that a mile away. I certainly did. The example is indeed a lie. When you were/are vehemently defending that they booted you because of your UserID, instead of starting off with something a little more constructive. You're not going to bait me into a gender argument aside from the fact that you lied about the reasoning in the example. So you cannot expect myself, or others for that matter, to take you seriously.

My advice is to admit your faults and move on because at this point, all you'll be getting from me is 'Cool story, sis'.

Dragonnord · November 2018

Brittany_Joy wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

This is a trolling thread to talk about sexism. OP didn't even care to respond to my questions about gaming issues if ID is removed from view.

I told you ZOS has access to character names associated with accounts and chat logs, other combat logs. A simple alternative like a Bnet Battletag or discord tag would suffice. There really is no impact on the game and a player's ability to retrieve general info about another player. I didn't know my account name was going to be public, usually there is an account name and a username for public settings.

@Brittany_Joy and I said "cheating from a spot I can't reach". How do I report him/her if I can't get close to/reach that player and I can't see his/her ID nor anything from that person because he/she is not even writing in the chat?

And ALSO:

What if I don't want to play with a player because, in seeing him/her in the dungeon or trial, he/she was a very bad player (up to me who I play with) or was trolling, having bad behavior, cheating, etc. and I don't want to play with that player ever again (but I don't know his/her ID for when I see him/her again)?

Defilted · November 2018

I am in a PVP guild and there are several women. They are treated like everyone else. I do not see the sexisim you speak of at least in my corner of ESO. It may just be the people you are choosing to hang out with. I can say the majority of people I have met in this game are not sexist toward women. Seems to reflect real life.

I do not want my gamer tag removed. It would need to be an option to hide or not.