So when's that silver bullet coming for Cyrodiil?

MaxwellC · November 2018

Seriously since murkmire dropped I thought I'd give this game a consistent try but jeez mate still the same old pathetic performance that has been mentioned for years as a "Work in progress" and that it's "Being worked on". Not sure how years later and barely some mentions about it, the issue still persists in-fact it honestly seems that it's gotten even worse this update. I guess you're honestly eluding that you'll need half a decade if not a decade to get your performance fixed.

Sitting here playing trying to fire off an ability but weird it doesn't work and the abilities are all darken even though I have full resource only for it to finally activate just as I have less than 10% health left and boom dead. Try to setup an ultimate combo can't use my ultimate or somehow take-flight misses on a target who is standing still or moves slight two steps to the right

Try to break free but end up breaking free literally three times in a row (weird I thought there was a thing called CC immunity) only to be melted with spin to win that somehow executes me at 60% health
I truly find it inconceivable that this issue still hasn't been mitigated but instead with each incremental patch the issue gets proliferated to the point that it starts impacting multiple things at once.

It would be nice to I don't know have an ESO live addressing every week/2 weeks the steps that are being taken because honestly I feel this is on the back-burner so you can throw out content that further causes instability within the game.
P.S Send me some soldier of anguish gear since Imma take a break from this game since I just can't do it.

Edit: Where's my soldier of anguish gear, mailboxes turning up dry... I better see some in my mailbox ASAP (at gamer-tag on Xbox - Maxwell)

idk · November 2018

I have not even seen Zos address how they made the in combat bug worse with this update.

But seriously, with the reality that performance in Cyro has been an issue one way or another since the game launched I do not see why anyone would think Zos would all of a sudden realize what needs to be done or gained the desire to get it done.

They seem to lack the technical understanding to develop a solution.

Neoauspex · November 2018

ESO 2

WrathOfTheRipper · November 2018

The game is too far along in its life to “fix” anything. Cyrodiil will soon be empty.

pod88kk · November 2018

Working as intended mate

Rain_Greyraven · November 2018

The silver Bullet will be getting rid of mass combat in favor of the arena system and rebuilding Cyrodiil as a PVE area.

MaxwellC · November 2018

Just a friendly reminder since I can't deal with the performance issues in Cyrodiil; You can donate to performance awareness month by sending Xbox gamer-tag "Maxwell" all soldier of anguish armor pieces/jewelry.

This will be tax deductible at the end Morning stars month.

protofeckless · November 2018

unplayable game is unplayable. can't use skills. can't activate siege. can't use doors. can't do anything. at least I'm on a Mac so I crash every 10 minutes. Disgusting.

BigBragg · November 2018

I don't think they are able to fix it.

protofeckless · November 2018

no ***. nothing works. I crash of course. Relog and Im back to zones. So now I get to sit on my *** thumbs for 30 minutes to queue back where I was where nothing works.

I'm out. Y'all have a great weekend.

frostz417 · November 2018

[removed bashing comment] Cyrodiil is its worst state

ArchMikem · November 2018

Rain_Greyraven wrote: »

The silver Bullet will be getting rid of mass combat in favor of the arena system and rebuilding Cyrodiil as a PVE area.

I would not mind that.

mb10 · November 2018

Cyrodiil is sooo bad on console atm

It’s clunky you literally cannot combine skills it’s one skill and bar swap at a night

The complete opposite of a smooth experience

Zelos · November 2018

Yep the game is too far gone. There wont be any fixes to performance and there wont anything getting better, in fact quite the opposite with more content the game will become more and more laggy. If you are looking for a fix you wont get one with this game, just leave while you can it will be empty soon.

SHADOW2KK · November 2018

Never gonna happen

MajBludd · November 2018

These problems have persisted for years. I believe they can't fix it at this point and any effort to "fix" it will only make it worse.

I am not leaving the game, myself, yet. But I am cancelling my sub and will spend far less time in ESO.

Rungar · November 2018

I dont think they want to fix it. I have my doubts that pvp makes any money but causes all sorts of trouble.

ayu_fever · November 2018

of course pvp is on the back burner.
pvp makes zos no money.
the pvp population is too small for them to be concerned.

the sooner they open up a pve cyrodiil and imperial city sewers, the sooner i can actually play content i have been locked out of for years because of silly pvp nonsense!
i would gladly buy pve versions of those areas for 50K crowns.
make it happen zos!

MajBludd · November 2018

You'll probably get what you want soon enough @ayu_fever.

Why most of you hate on pvp is beyond me. Seems a bit stupid to hate on something that you probably don't do much, but anyway.

Pop in cyro is dropping, and a lot of those pvp players are also pve players, myself included.

So to lose any amount of pop, regardless if they are a majority pvp player or pve player isn't good for anybody, right?

Also, the idea that pvp doesn't make any money is kind of false, since I've subbed for over 3yrs and have purchased crowns more than I should have.

So, I'd say ppl who sub and buy crown store items are what keeps the game alive and that can be anybody, not just pve players

Jakx · November 2018

The game engine developers no longer work at ZOS so its impossible for them to fix any of this. Give up on the idea they are working on it at all.

frostz417 · November 2018

Jakx wrote: »

The game engine developers no longer work at ZOS so its impossible for them to fix any of this. Give up on the idea they are working on it at all.

Is this actually true?

Elsonso · November 2018

frostz417 wrote: »

Jakx wrote: »

The game engine developers no longer work at ZOS so its impossible for them to fix any of this. Give up on the idea they are working on it at all.

Is this actually true?

Unlikely. They are venting.

JackDaniell · November 2018

Would love to see an actual performance increase in game when they put it in the patch notes.

They reworked cc they said...
You wont get stuck in chain stuns they said...

LegacyDM · November 2018

frostz417 wrote: »

Jakx wrote: »

The game engine developers no longer work at ZOS so its impossible for them to fix any of this. Give up on the idea they are working on it at all.

Is this actually true?

Actually, I would bet that the dev team is still with the same company but been pulled off to work on other projects. I've seen this before with many gaming companies. Turbine Dev team pulled off from DDO to work on LOTR. FUNCOM dev team pulled off of AoC to work on Secret World. Probably the same true in this case. Dev team pulled off from ESO to work on the new upcoming "Starfield."

In the life cycle of a game, it gets to a state of maturity where resources are only allocated to new content, bug fixes, and cash shop transactions. ZOS management has decided its not worth re-engineering or overhauling the game engine to fix the lag. Instead, they are taking a strategic approach. Spread people out with more objectives, change how skills work, get rid of torch lights and deer, change the functionality of the map, etc. The problem is none of those things seem to work. The core issue is the server cannot process the load of skills firing within the density of population. As long as people continue to pay they have no incentive whats so ever to fix anything. ZOS management made a decision long ago. Either spend money fixing ESO or spend the money making a new MMORPG "Starfield." its clear which direction they went.

Miswar · November 2018

ayu_fever wrote: »

of course pvp is on the back burner.
pvp makes zos no money.
the pvp population is too small for them to be concerned.

the sooner they open up a pve cyrodiil and imperial city sewers, the sooner i can actually play content i have been locked out of for years because of silly pvp nonsense!
i would gladly buy pve versions of those areas for 50K crowns.
make it happen zos!

This has been top 3 nonsense I have read in a longtime. Good job getting that title.

I do hope you get tons o tbags when you show your chracter on Cyrodiil. It would be quite deserved ones.

zaria · November 2018

Just back from an 3 hour pvp session, the last times I has had no technical problems outside a couple of lag spikes during sieges but overall very smooth. Ran with zergs all the time.
Yes I would love to have it back to launch status but as for now its works.

Also love how spell strategist affect pvp

drkfrontiers · November 2018

Try this:

How many people participate in Cyrodiil on average?

How many people participate in the rest of ESO on average?

.. now where do you think would be the appropriate investment for ZOS in terms of ROI?

Rain_Greyraven · November 2018

Jakx wrote: »

The game engine developers no longer work at ZOS so its impossible for them to fix any of this. Give up on the idea they are working on it at all.

Dude....it is a C++ engine that is built around the precepts of the Hero engine, with a Havok plug in for Physics. Anyone with knowledge of C++ plus the Rad Tools game suite, can effectively modify update and improve the current engine, that includes the network/communications/Telemetry/compression code. If that wasn't possible we wouldn't have had two Exapnsions and umteen DLC's.

Game engines are not mystical Black box's that only a few Wizards can work on...they all follow a standard set of rules, that any decent code monkey can follow, that is why you see so many MMo emulators out there.

I promise you that I could walk into Zenimax cold and could have the current engine do just about anything I wanted it to do in under a month, the issue isn't with the devs, it is always what the suits at the top want to bother with.

Zenimax isn't a group of clueless people running around trying to band aid an esoteric engine, it is staffed by overworked underpaid individuals, who are doing a thankless job, and who will probably end up in the first Enterprise development studio that offers them a way out.

I went form earning peanuts and working a 95 hour work week with horrible benefits, to making a seven figure salary, and a 35 hour maximum week, and best of all I don't have to deal with armchair developers that have zero clue, how game development actually works.

So the next time you want to rag on the people that makes your games, you might want to think about, the favor they are doing you by even being there, game development lost eloquent coders years ago, you have what you have and they aren't long for this niche of the industry, because Enterprise development will always offer them a better way.

[Edit to remove bait]

Bruccius · November 2018

Miswar wrote: »

ayu_fever wrote: »

of course pvp is on the back burner.
pvp makes zos no money.
the pvp population is too small for them to be concerned.

the sooner they open up a pve cyrodiil and imperial city sewers, the sooner i can actually play content i have been locked out of for years because of silly pvp nonsense!
i would gladly buy pve versions of those areas for 50K crowns.
make it happen zos!

This has been top 3 nonsense I have read in a longtime. Good job getting that title.

I do hope you get tons o tbags when you show your chracter on Cyrodiil. It would be quite deserved ones.

You can't argue against his claims, though. It's the PvE community that makes ZOS get money.

Tan9oSuccka · November 2018

Miswar wrote: »

ayu_fever wrote: »

of course pvp is on the back burner.
pvp makes zos no money.
the pvp population is too small for them to be concerned.

the sooner they open up a pve cyrodiil and imperial city sewers, the sooner i can actually play content i have been locked out of for years because of silly pvp nonsense!
i would gladly buy pve versions of those areas for 50K crowns.
make it happen zos!

This has been top 3 nonsense I have read in a longtime. Good job getting that title.

I do hope you get tons o tbags when you show your chracter on Cyrodiil. It would be quite deserved ones.

He’s not wrong though. A majority of players have never even set foot in Cyrodiil.

I suspect most the coveted crown “whales” aren’t teabagging each other in Cyrodiil.

Player versus player interactions are just terrible right now, I have a hard time taking combat seriously.

Latios · November 2018

I've been playing PvP for 2 months now, and I see so much potential! Too bad it's kinda wasted.

When it's zerg prime time I just go capture resources and bait small scale PvP, because the lag makes it become unbearable to play another way.