DK is RIP further under ground this patch..

GreenhaloX · November 2018

My 40hp DK tank's Igneous is the mid-3k while the dd stamDK's Igneous is in the 1-2k. Nerfed more down to 150% to the passive. Tank isn't protecting shitt now in any vet trial or vet DLC dungeons and waste of slot to have Igneous to dd. Game developers/designers.. why?!! Why the hell did you guys killed DK?? 2H isn't working right. The Dizz keeps resetting, misfiring too many times.. Lord Almighty! It's 12 feet under ground now. RIP

. You all must be some DK haters. Nasty mudballs are on the way to you guys..

Unfadingsilence · November 2018

...but my DK tank is still bad ass, already got the new skin and no death, speed run for the new arena on my DK tank, and my mag DK is still putting out great numbers for vet trials. Seems like yet ano L2P post tbh just learn how to adapted and you will be ok

GreenhaloX · November 2018

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

...but my DK tank is still bad ass, already got the new skin and no death, speed run for the new arena on my DK tank, and my mag DK is still putting out great numbers for vet trials. Seems like yet ano L2P post tbh just learn how to adapted and you will be ok

Nice.. Good for you on your accomplishments. Guess not all of us can be badass keyboard warriors. But really, good job..

AbysmalGhul · November 2018

GreenhaloX wrote: »

My 40hp DK tank's Igneous is the mid-3k while the dd stamDK's Igneous is in the 1-2k. Nerfed more down to 150% to the passive. Tank isn't protecting shitt now in any vet trial or vet DLC dungeons and waste of slot to have Igneous to dd. Game developers/designers.. why?!! Why the hell did you guys killed DK?? 2H isn't working right. The Dizz keeps resetting, misfiring too many times.. Lord Almighty! It's 12 feet under ground now. RIP . You all must be some DK haters. Nasty mudballs are on the way to you guys..

Igneous was never a huge shield to begin with. It was a nice buffer for a big hit....

Valrien · November 2018

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

...but my DK tank is still bad ass, already got the new skin and no death, speed run for the new arena on my DK tank, and my mag DK is still putting out great numbers for vet trials. Seems like yet ano L2P post tbh just learn how to adapted and you will be ok

Nice.. Good for you on your accomplishments. Guess not all of us can be badass keyboard warriors. But really, good job..

I like whenever someone shares their accomplishments, people immediately go on the offensive with insults about how they're no-life keyboard warriors.

It's like everyone worse than you is trash, but everyone better than you is no-life scum

To address the OP itself, DK isn't really worse off this patch. I think the only classes that really got hit at all were Warden and Sorc. The rest either stayed the same or got buffed. This really just sounds like a L2P issue

xericdx · November 2018

How is DK tank bad now? Still one of the strongest options for tanking and my personal favorite.
Igneous shield was never it s main source of protection. Now it s smaller but with full armour bonus, which abnormally at cap on a tank

ak_pvp · November 2018

Its affected by resists, so it is probably about the same.

Unfadingsilence · November 2018

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

...but my DK tank is still bad ass, already got the new skin and no death, speed run for the new arena on my DK tank, and my mag DK is still putting out great numbers for vet trials. Seems like yet ano L2P post tbh just learn how to adapted and you will be ok

Nice.. Good for you on your accomplishments. Guess not all of us can be badass keyboard warriors. But really, good job..

Lul seems like you get triggered way to easy, I'm sorry I know how to play an MMORPG and I'm sorry I understand that change always happens, I'm sorry I have played this game since the beginning and every few months nerfs happen and buffs happen as well as broken classes and abilities and so on, like I said L2P and learn to adapt and just stop crying about it.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · November 2018

You never slotted igneous for the size of the shield. You slot it to return stamina while block casting. I really just don’t see how DK tanks were nerfed in any meaningful way. Are they not still the preferred tank class in ESO?

MashmalloMan · November 2018

GreenhaloX wrote: »

My 40hp DK tank's Igneous is the mid-3k while the dd stamDK's Igneous is in the 1-2k. Nerfed more down to 150% to the passive. Tank isn't protecting shitt now in any vet trial or vet DLC dungeons and waste of slot to have Igneous to dd. Game developers/designers.. why?!! Why the hell did you guys killed DK?? 2H isn't working right. The Dizz keeps resetting, misfiring too many times.. Lord Almighty! It's 12 feet under ground now. RIP . You all must be some DK haters. Nasty mudballs are on the way to you guys..

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

...but my DK tank is still bad ass, already got the new skin and no death, speed run for the new arena on my DK tank, and my mag DK is still putting out great numbers for vet trials. Seems like yet ano L2P post tbh just learn how to adapted and you will be ok

Nice.. Good for you on your accomplishments. Guess not all of us can be badass keyboard warriors. But really, good job..

You lost all credibility here. L2P issue. You're shields have resists and no penetration to counter them in pve, the nerf was necessary.

If you're allowed to share how you can't complete any content then others are perfectly allowed to share they can, DK is still the strongest tank in the game.

If you're on console, they released a bug with channeled abilities with murkmire, maybe it hit consoles but it's been patched on PC. If your reticle falls off your target during the channel it won't count the final hit.

MartiniDaniels · November 2018

DK tanks were buffed in this patch, obviously since tank shields are hard as nuts now, and DKs are best tank shieldspammers.

Nurable · November 2018

Incoming damage is now reduced based on resistances before hitting the shield so technically they got a buff. Just not an op buff. It was well balanced.

Thrain · November 2018

I dont get it whats the prob?

My dk tank got stronger with the patch
60k+ life
Max resistances
100k+ dmg shield wich got now the resistances of my dk
In vet dungeons im always the last man standing when my group is dead and im still able to rez them....except vcoa2 my groupmates wiped again after the rez so i just killed the bosses on my own^^
I dont know what exactly you are doing but i guess your doing it wrong
Maybe in your opinion im now a keyboard warrior as well cuz i dont complain about the same things as you do but in my opinion its like the ppl before me said it really sounds like an l2p issue^^

NoMoreChillies · November 2018

Thrain wrote: »

I dont get it whats the prob?

My dk tank got stronger with the patch
60k+ life
Max resistances
100k+ dmg shield wich got now the resistances of my dk
In vet dungeons im always the last man standing when my group is dead and im still able to rez them....except vcoa2 my groupmates wiped again after the rez so i just killed the bosses on my own^^
I dont know what exactly you are doing but i guess your doing it wrong
Maybe in your opinion im now a keyboard warrior as well cuz i dont complain about the same things as you do but in my opinion its like the ppl before me said it really sounds like an l2p issue^^

just came back to the game after a long break.
How do you get 100k shield?

Thrain · November 2018

NoMoreChillies wrote: »

Thrain wrote: »

I dont get it whats the prob?

My dk tank got stronger with the patch
60k+ life
Max resistances
100k+ dmg shield wich got now the resistances of my dk
In vet dungeons im always the last man standing when my group is dead and im still able to rez them....except vcoa2 my groupmates wiped again after the rez so i just killed the bosses on my own^^
I dont know what exactly you are doing but i guess your doing it wrong
Maybe in your opinion im now a keyboard warrior as well cuz i dont complain about the same things as you do but in my opinion its like the ppl before me said it really sounds like an l2p issue^^

just came back to the game after a long break.
How do you get 100k shield?

Because the shields scale with your max hp
My tank got 60k+ hp means if he uses 2 dmg shields and the dk ulti he gets like 107k dmg shield

paulsimonps · November 2018

DK Tanks are still the Tanking Kings, Igneous/Fragmented shield still has value, giving 8-10k shields to allies is the reason they nerfed it before and with the resistance changes I can get that they didn't want to buff it back up. I still use it and will continue to do so.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO · November 2018

@GreenhaloX can you please tell me how did you managed the ultra achievement of having a 40hp tank? im pretty sure my lvl 1 mule is having a lot more...so pls teach me master!

MaxwellC · November 2018

Dk isn't necessarily even worse this patch... I mean how can we go from rock bottom and go even further than that lol. The only way that could happen is if they nerf our damage since we already had everything positive for us Stam DKs nerfed due to people crying like babies since they couldn't win in PvP.

ayu_fever · November 2018

i have tanked on each class and i have always hated the DK tank. it is so very boring. it is not exciting to play at all.
its just poke and block!!!

i converted my DK to be my main healer and have had the time of my life!
something so satisfying about proving others wrong and enjoying the challenge of using a non-traditional build.
going against the grain is the only way to live!

i like having more involvement and responsibility in tanking, so for over 2 years my tank has been templar.
oh i get haters and doubters, but they change their tune VERY quick!

people just worry wayyyyyy too much what other players are using (class, race, gear, skills) and are ready to hate on or kick others who dont conform to their idea of what they should be using.

it is really not that serious.

Karmanorway · November 2018

GreenhaloX wrote: »

My 40hp DK tank's Igneous is the mid-3k while the dd stamDK's Igneous is in the 1-2k. Nerfed more down to 150% to the passive. Tank isn't protecting shitt now in any vet trial or vet DLC dungeons and waste of slot to have Igneous to dd. Game developers/designers.. why?!! Why the hell did you guys killed DK?? 2H isn't working right. The Dizz keeps resetting, misfiring too many times.. Lord Almighty! It's 12 feet under ground now. RIP . You all must be some DK haters. Nasty mudballs are on the way to you guys..

First dungeon i completed (vFL) i did with a DK tank that i made during xp event. It went pretty well, i was always the last to die until we made it. And i had never played tank in any dungeon before that, except as a magsorc back in the days when they was useful..

GreenhaloX · November 2018

It's a rant about more nefing that comes with each patch and updates, all.. sheesh. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. Thank you for your attentiveness, though.

Valrien · November 2018

GreenhaloX wrote: »

It's a rant about more nefing that comes with each patch and updates, all.. sheesh. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. Thank you for your attentiveness, though.

DK was nerfed in a sensible way though. The shield is not paramount to their survival, and with the resistance changes to shields it was rightfully changed.

Plus. It's used for Helping Hands, not the shields itself.

Realistically, DK and Templar were the most well-managed classes of Murkmire

GreenhaloX · November 2018

Valrien wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

It's a rant about more nefing that comes with each patch and updates, all.. sheesh. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. Thank you for your attentiveness, though.

DK was nerfed in a sensible way though. The shield is not paramount to their survival, and with the resistance changes to shields it was rightfully changed.

Plus. It's used for Helping Hands, not the shields itself.

Realistically, DK and Templar were the most well-managed classes of Murkmire

Well, I appreciate your input; however, I just cannot agree. It's a damage shield. I can care less about mending, helping hand or stam regen. I use Resolving Vigor and Forward Momentum/Rally for mending and healing. I have no issue with stamina regen or resource management as I mostly use heavy attack combo. A damage shield is just that.. to protect you and/or your allies from damage. That is what's the purpose I use Igneous or Fragmented Shield for; to protect me/my toon from hard hitting damages from world bosses or other end-game contents. I rarely do group things or events, or rely on healers, tanks or what have you. For damage mitigating purposes, it surely isn't doing such a great job as it used to prior to One Tamriel before all the multiple successive "NERFS!"

Ok, do I expect any damage shield to be as OP as the sorc ward used to be? However nice it is, but no.. I do, however, expect a damage shield to do its job some; particularly when a boss is blasting you with a 7-16k strike. Thus, one would think a damage shield should mitigate a better percentage of that, and not only 2-4k of it, which currently an 18-20k hp DK's shield is only doing. SO, basically, you just wasting majicka, because the shield is mitigating shitt. I remember back in the good ole days prior to One Tamriel when the Igneous was mitigating around 6-8 just for a dd stamDK (and I'm not even getting the previous 80k hp DK tank I had.) It was still no where near the previously nerfed Empowered Ward, but for a stam toon, that was mighty nice..

Also, in addition to all the ffing game freezes and loading screen crashes multiple times in a playing session and how jacked up combat mechanics have been with this Murkmire patch; particularly how jacked up Dizzy Swing has been. Yes, I'm kind of frustrated with the game and its developers/designers, generally as a whole. Hell, I just took a new toon into PvP today and freaking crashed about 4-5 times in the last 3 hours. Lagging and misfiring crapshoot as usual as well in PvP. Yet, I'm still playing ESO after all these years; thus, I kind of also question my sanity..

Jhalin · November 2018

Your 3.5k shield will mitigate 7k worth of damage if you have max resists, which is a good chunk more mitigation provided before the shield changes, the dps will mitigate maybe 2k with their 1.5k shield

You didn’t get nerfed at all

GreenhaloX · November 2018

Jhalin wrote: »

Your 3.5k shield will mitigate 7k worth of damage if you have max resists, which is a good chunk more mitigation provided before the shield changes, the dps will mitigate maybe 2k with their 1.5k shield

You didn’t get nerfed at all

Ok.. appreciate the input, and I'm not blaming you directly, but I'm more frustrated now. Dammit..

max_only · November 2018

Stam dk has been killing it.

Ragnarock41 · November 2018

stamina DK was bottom tier for high MMR PvP, not much has changed, so I don't know how its any worse really. You can't go from worst to beyond worst.

Unfadingsilence · November 2018

GreenhaloX wrote: »

It's a rant about more nefing that comes with each patch and updates, all.. sheesh. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. Thank you for your attentiveness, though.

No its more of a L2P issue, you must be new to playing MMORPG games they chance things with every patch. L2P or move on to some other game "single player" maybe that will be better for you.

paulsimonps · November 2018

I mean you can't just make a "rant" thread and not expect people to comment and disagree. Cause from your comment earlier it almost seems like you weren't expecting it. And I mean other classes can say the same about constantly being nerfed, everyone gets hit with the bat, it's all about how we deal with and give constructive feedback on it to make the changes work.

Ragnarock41 · November 2018

paulsimonps wrote: »

I mean you can't just make a "rant" thread and not expect people to comment and disagree. Cause from your comment earlier it almost seems like you weren't expecting it. And I mean other classes can say the same about constantly being nerfed, everyone gets hit with the bat, it's all about how we deal with and give constructive feedback on it to make the changes work.

Fragmented shield went from tiny to microscopic, and was only used by stamina Dks anyways.

If forums thinks that was a much needed nerf , I don't even know what to say.

paulsimonps · November 2018

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

paulsimonps wrote: »

I mean you can't just make a "rant" thread and not expect people to comment and disagree. Cause from your comment earlier it almost seems like you weren't expecting it. And I mean other classes can say the same about constantly being nerfed, everyone gets hit with the bat, it's all about how we deal with and give constructive feedback on it to make the changes work.

Fragmented shield went from tiny to microscopic, and was only used by stamina Dks anyways.

If forums thinks that was a much needed nerf , I don't even know what to say.

Some tanks use it as well for the mending