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Merge Servers?

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  • Karmanorway
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    yes please
  • Asardes
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    Initially they only had one for PC, but then they realized that people playing from the other side of the world had really bad latency so they made another cluster in the EU. They followed trough with consoles. It's not gonna happen.
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  • GreenhaloX
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    Title.. sure. That would be cool. I'm game. Also, not title.. separate PvP and PvE so each and every ffing time they nerf toons and abilities for PvP, it doesn't affect PvE. Oh, would that be glorious..
  • Acrolas
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    Asardes wrote: »
    Initially they only had one for PC, but then they realized that people playing from the other side of the world had really bad latency so they made another cluster in the EU. They followed trough with consoles. It's not gonna happen.


    The EU megaserver existed from launch, it was just moved to Frankfurt, Germany after launch.

    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/1095
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  • Minnesinger
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    Asardes wrote: »
    Initially they only had one for PC, but then they realized that people playing from the other side of the world had really bad latency so they made another cluster in the EU. They followed trough with consoles. It's not gonna happen.


    The EU megaserver existed from launch, it was just moved to Frankfurt, Germany after launch.

    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/1095

    They planned to have one megaserver for all but decided against it before the launch. I would like to see one megaserver one day.
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  • Suddwrath
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    I would definitely like to see this, but it most likely isn't going to happen.

    But speaking of servers: Another thing I would like to see is the option for players to swap their characters/accounts to other servers (Xbox -> PC, etc). Heck, I would even be willing to pay a hefty fee for that.
  • DaveMoeDee
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    No. No need to spend the money to change that infrastructure when it just adds performance challenges and latency.
  • Sparr0w
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    Imagine the cyro queue unless they increase it...
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  • SammyFable
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    No thanks. Playing with a 200 ping on the pts during testing phases is awful enough. I'd rather like to see even more servers, for example for those in oceanic places. I hear they have terrible ping trying to play on the NA server.
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  • zaria
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    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Imagine the cyro queue unless they increase it...
    They can add more campaigns however the queue systems are common and dungeon and BG finder tend to break under heavy load like events. Most of the someone has refused the response tend to be the finder who messes up.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
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    I'd love a merged EU and NA megaserver but with regionally and transparently sharded dungeon, trial, housing, battlegrounds and solo delve instances. PvP campaigns could be explicitly regionally sharded much like the weekly, monthly and no CP campaigns are. Would be a massive infrastructure overhaul to implement however.
    SammyFable wrote: »
    No thanks. Playing with a 200 ping on the pts during testing phases is awful enough. I'd rather like to see even more servers, for example for those in oceanic places. I hear they have terrible ping trying to play on the NA server.

    More seperate megasevers would probably just split the already diminished player base further and cause less people to want to play.
    Edited by lokulin on November 9, 2018 11:31PM
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  • SirAndy
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    You'll have to submit a pull request for that ...
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  • zaria
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    lokulin wrote: »
    I'd love a merged EU and NA megaserver but with regionally and transparently sharded dungeon, trial, housing, battlegrounds and solo delve instances. PvP campaigns could be explicitly regionally sharded much like the weekly, monthly and no CP campaigns are. Would be a massive infrastructure overhaul to implement however.
    SammyFable wrote: »
    No thanks. Playing with a 200 ping on the pts during testing phases is awful enough. I'd rather like to see even more servers, for example for those in oceanic places. I hear they have terrible ping trying to play on the NA server.

    More seperate megasevers would probably just split the already diminished player base further and cause less people to want to play.
    Yes, and they have been unable to fix cyrodil for years. Dungeon finder will break down all weekends.
    Also they should obviosly put this in EU :)

    That dimishing player base? yes its down a bit but its just after an double xp event and lots of people got nerfed.
    But agree unknown how many players it would be on an 3rd megaserver, many would also not move as they would loose friends and guilds.

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Elsonso
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    Not seeing it as necessary on PC/NA
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  • bearbelly
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    I don't see how stuffing everyone into one server would fix performance issues when the two separate ones can't handle what they have now. Load-times and latency would just get worse, wouldn't they?
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    bearbelly wrote: »
    I don't see how stuffing everyone into one server would fix performance issues when the two separate ones can't handle what they have now. Load-times and latency would just get worse, wouldn't they?

    Whether everyone is on one megaserver, two or ten shouldn't really have a material impact on any of the things you mention. It isn't as if the megaserver is just one poor little server in the same way amazon.com isn't just one server hosting a website.

    What effects this is the developer capability to implement robust distributed solutions. Note I say capability rather than abbility. Given enough time and resources ZOS might have the technical nous to pull it off but given their inability or lack of motivation to fix the current problems with the way performance is at the moment I agree that they'd not be able to pull iff something more complex.
    Edited by lokulin on November 10, 2018 2:09AM
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_GaryA and to all the other "@zos people"

    I would be very happy if all severs were merged onto a feasable and functioning server
  • Tasear
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    I personally don't think it's possible. Some characters share names of server by different users. Like there's EU Tasear made by someone else and NA Tasear I own. Who gets to be the real Tasear :o

    I would assume this is why swapping servers isn't a thing too.

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    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    No. No need to spend the money to change that infrastructure when it just adds performance challenges and latency.

    It's funny you say that when the game will still be just as broken.

    What they need to do is get rid of their anti-bit software and roll back the lighting changes. The game could handle massive amounts of players just fine until 1.2
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    Tasear wrote: »
    I personally don't think it's possible. Some characters share names of server by different users. Like there's EU Tasear made by someone else and NA Tasear I own. Who gets to be the real Tasear :o

    I would assume this is why swapping servers isn't a thing too.

    The person who had the character first. @Tasear

    Would work just like picking any other name.
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  • Cortimi
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    No. It's bad enough playing people from one coast of my country on another coast, let alone across continents.
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    SaltySudd wrote: »
    I would definitely like to see this, but it most likely isn't going to happen.

    But speaking of servers: Another thing I would like to see is the option for players to swap their characters/accounts to other servers (Xbox -> PC, etc). Heck, I would even be willing to pay a hefty fee for that.

    The problem is all of the paid unlocks on the account. Not the actual character. The platform providers (especially Sony) hate that which is why they don't want to allow cross play. They don't want you to buy something on PC and transfer to PS4 because they'd lose their 15% cut.
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    UPrime wrote: »
    SaltySudd wrote: »
    I would definitely like to see this, but it most likely isn't going to happen.

    But speaking of servers: Another thing I would like to see is the option for players to swap their characters/accounts to other servers (Xbox -> PC, etc). Heck, I would even be willing to pay a hefty fee for that.

    The problem is all of the paid unlocks on the account. Not the actual character. The platform providers (especially Sony) hate that which is why they don't want to allow cross play. They don't want you to buy something on PC and transfer to PS4 because they'd lose their 15% cut.

    Funny, people say things about Sony and then games like FFXIV directly contradict that. (Hint: Mog Station items are purchased in a browser)
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    Tasear wrote: »
    I personally don't think it's possible. Some characters share names of server by different users. Like there's EU Tasear made by someone else and NA Tasear I own. Who gets to be the real Tasear :o

    I would assume this is why swapping servers isn't a thing too.
    Its possible, MMO with many single instance servers like WOW merge servers pretty often, one would have to change name.
    Reason for server merges is low population on servers so trade and grouping becomes to hard.
    This is not an issue with eso as its just 6 server clusters, not 50 instanced servers.

    And yes merging servers would double the population and the server issues, not population in zones as they just add more instances, but group finder for BG and dungeon would be like in events every weekend
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • phaneub17_ESO
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    You mean we aren't already there? Why is there people yelling in russian in Deshaan?
  • Sylvermynx
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    Ugh. No thanks.
  • Emma_Overload
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    Do the Japanese players have their own zone chat? I never see them chatting in game, even though I know there are Japanese players frequently on NA PC during certain hours.
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    Do the Japanese players have their own zone chat? I never see them chatting in game, even though I know there are Japanese players frequently on NA PC during certain hours.

    Yes they do. Seems to be pretty quiet tho mostly besides the occasional guild recruitment.
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  • MinarasLaure
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    God no.
    It will be unsustainable for all the players without a good connection.
  • xS Foxy
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    For information @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom if all french players exit EU server it's because server IS in Germany and thé way too access to thé server pass by à broken network node of deutsh Télécom for french players who have Orange like internet operator.. this current situation starting 8 months ago...maybe move thé server in UK or France a day no ?
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