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New car
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Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
✭rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »fatmanatcomp wrote: »I bought a new car, it runs but has major problems. It’s ok though as I have been told mechanics will pop out every couple of weeks to slowly fix these problems.
Strange though , when I actually try to talk to them about these problems I receive no replies and the phone is never answered.
Should I send the car back ?
The reason you are treated like that is that there is not enough good competition in this "car" market. I mean there are manufactures that produce other car models but there are just a few that are decent (cannot say good).
That's why you should either enjoy your car with its current faults or just return it and get a different car but you will not have many good choices that are similar to this one.
so because there is not enough good competition in this product on market then producent can/should have permission to just *** his customers becasue they dont have or cant find other similiar product?
I dont think so in real life if producent just pissing off his customers they will stay with his products or atlest will stay with him and not doing anyting louder to finally force him to pass and make product working properly without nonstop problems and breaking without warranty as product is defective almost since release and this isnt written somewhere to inform customer how really it is worth
If you have the monopoly of something and the costumers do not get anything similar to it, then you can pretty much do what you want with your product....
so this is just showing what producent it is, how worth he is itself for rest population and what to do with him if you dont need to much his product or if competitior to him will show
EDIT: and Im really sorry about people defending this kind of behaviour from producent to all his customers
I neither defended that behaviour nor did I say ZOS does whatever they want with their game. This was just a general statement, which sadly is present in the current world. If you are the one and only person with something, which si needed by everyone else, then you are able to make the rules.1 -
Gundug✭✭✭✭✭This is a stretch as an analogy to ESO, considering automakers don’t continually add new features to the car you purchased years ago.
Comparing a product that is the result of over 100 years of incremental improvements that costs a minimum of $20,000 new with one based on four years of development that could have cost $60 new is somewhat silly. Why not just compare it with a different MMO that does things you like?0 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »fatmanatcomp wrote: »I bought a new car, it runs but has major problems. It’s ok though as I have been told mechanics will pop out every couple of weeks to slowly fix these problems.
Strange though , when I actually try to talk to them about these problems I receive no replies and the phone is never answered.
Should I send the car back ?
The reason you are treated like that is that there is not enough good competition in this "car" market. I mean there are manufactures that produce other car models but there are just a few that are decent (cannot say good).
That's why you should either enjoy your car with its current faults or just return it and get a different car but you will not have many good choices that are similar to this one.
so because there is not enough good competition in this product on market then producent can/should have permission to just *** his customers becasue they dont have or cant find other similiar product?
I dont think so in real life if producent just pissing off his customers they will stay with his products or atlest will stay with him and not doing anyting louder to finally force him to pass and make product working properly without nonstop problems and breaking without warranty as product is defective almost since release and this isnt written somewhere to inform customer how really it is worth
If you have the monopoly of something and the costumers do not get anything similar to it, then you can pretty much do what you want with your product....
so this is just showing what producent it is, how worth he is itself for rest population and what to do with him if you dont need to much his product or if competitior to him will show
EDIT: and Im really sorry about people defending this kind of behaviour from producent to all his customers
I neither defended that behaviour nor did I say ZOS does whatever they want with their game. This was just a general statement, which sadly is present in the current world. If you are the one and only person with something, which si needed by everyone else, then you are able to make the rules.
yea but its also question:
do you really need it if its really that bad?
while we can have something else which isnt maybe fully same thing but is simmilar and its good/great instead of bad and do rest can see anything else beside this bad thing or have blinders on?0 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭fatmanatcomp wrote: »I bought a new car, it runs but has major problems. It’s ok though as I have been told mechanics will pop out every couple of weeks to slowly fix these problems.
Strange though , when I actually try to talk to them about these problems I receive no replies and the phone is never answered.
Should I send the car back ?
you should unsub from the car manufacture until they make a recall of the car and replace it with a better model
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Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
✭rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »fatmanatcomp wrote: »I bought a new car, it runs but has major problems. It’s ok though as I have been told mechanics will pop out every couple of weeks to slowly fix these problems.
Strange though , when I actually try to talk to them about these problems I receive no replies and the phone is never answered.
Should I send the car back ?
The reason you are treated like that is that there is not enough good competition in this "car" market. I mean there are manufactures that produce other car models but there are just a few that are decent (cannot say good).
That's why you should either enjoy your car with its current faults or just return it and get a different car but you will not have many good choices that are similar to this one.
so because there is not enough good competition in this product on market then producent can/should have permission to just *** his customers becasue they dont have or cant find other similiar product?
I dont think so in real life if producent just pissing off his customers they will stay with his products or atlest will stay with him and not doing anyting louder to finally force him to pass and make product working properly without nonstop problems and breaking without warranty as product is defective almost since release and this isnt written somewhere to inform customer how really it is worth
If you have the monopoly of something and the costumers do not get anything similar to it, then you can pretty much do what you want with your product....
so this is just showing what producent it is, how worth he is itself for rest population and what to do with him if you dont need to much his product or if competitior to him will show
EDIT: and Im really sorry about people defending this kind of behaviour from producent to all his customers
I neither defended that behaviour nor did I say ZOS does whatever they want with their game. This was just a general statement, which sadly is present in the current world. If you are the one and only person with something, which si needed by everyone else, then you are able to make the rules.
yea but its also question:
do you really need it if its really that bad?
while we can have something else which isnt maybe fully same thing but is simmilar and its good/great instead of bad and do rest can see anything else beside this bad thing or have blinders on?
People are still buying Iphones
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Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭This is a stretch as an analogy to ESO, considering automakers don’t continually add new features to the car you purchased years ago.
Comparing a product that is the result of over 100 years of incremental improvements that costs a minimum of $20,000 new with one based on four years of development that could have cost $60 new is somewhat silly. Why not just compare it with a different MMO that does things you like?
because people here like devs hate to compare eso to any other successful mmo because we really know how ESO looks and everyone dont want to show this look to anyone newer or not in topic about this0 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »fatmanatcomp wrote: »I bought a new car, it runs but has major problems. It’s ok though as I have been told mechanics will pop out every couple of weeks to slowly fix these problems.
Strange though , when I actually try to talk to them about these problems I receive no replies and the phone is never answered.
Should I send the car back ?
The reason you are treated like that is that there is not enough good competition in this "car" market. I mean there are manufactures that produce other car models but there are just a few that are decent (cannot say good).
That's why you should either enjoy your car with its current faults or just return it and get a different car but you will not have many good choices that are similar to this one.
so because there is not enough good competition in this product on market then producent can/should have permission to just *** his customers becasue they dont have or cant find other similiar product?
I dont think so in real life if producent just pissing off his customers they will stay with his products or atlest will stay with him and not doing anyting louder to finally force him to pass and make product working properly without nonstop problems and breaking without warranty as product is defective almost since release and this isnt written somewhere to inform customer how really it is worth
If you have the monopoly of something and the costumers do not get anything similar to it, then you can pretty much do what you want with your product....
so this is just showing what producent it is, how worth he is itself for rest population and what to do with him if you dont need to much his product or if competitior to him will show
EDIT: and Im really sorry about people defending this kind of behaviour from producent to all his customers
I neither defended that behaviour nor did I say ZOS does whatever they want with their game. This was just a general statement, which sadly is present in the current world. If you are the one and only person with something, which si needed by everyone else, then you are able to make the rules.
yea but its also question:
do you really need it if its really that bad?
while we can have something else which isnt maybe fully same thing but is simmilar and its good/great instead of bad and do rest can see anything else beside this bad thing or have blinders on?
People are still buying Iphones
ahhh good point xD
so its just stupidness of civilized people who dont care how they are scammed
can I leave this post with this state here? xD0 -
yodased✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.1 -
Sygil05✭✭✭I'm still reeling from the fact that someone is continuing to believe that the OP was seriously talking about a car issue with such an obvious analogy...3
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red_emu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Did keys for the ignition come in 30 boxes? That you had to pay for? And only one box might or might not contain Radiant Apex Car Keys?
But it's ok, because if you get insurance from the car manufacturer, you will get a discount on the countless boxes, mostly containing vials of engine oil (of the wrong grade anyway).PC - EU:
Falathren Noctis - AD MagNecro
Falathren - AD StamSorc
Falathren Eryndaer - AD StamDen
Falathren Irimion - AD MagPlar
Talagan Falathren - AD StamDK
Falathren Infernis - AD MagDK
Your-Ex - AD MagBlade3 -
Mister_DMC✭✭✭✭✭I know it's a euphemism for the overall game performance but I'm an IRL mechanic. The number of issues we see in brand new vehicles that can't be fixed right away or there's no available parts for is actually very substantial. We are still have constant repeat problems with poor quality parts in 2017 vehicles that are now nearing the end of their warranty and are two years old now...
Everything is complicated nowadays, FFS your fridge has a tv in it... Have patience people.1 -
fatmanatcomp✭✭✭Mister_DMC wrote: »I
Everything is complicated nowadays, FFS your fridge has a tv in it... Have patience people.
Is that why my game keeps freezing ?2 -
Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭BooPerScOOper wrote: »
I'm just glad the mods haven't closed this.Edited by Cadbury on November 7, 2018 3:36PM"If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."1 -
Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Eso development is equivalent to a car with a really nice stereo and flashy paint job but no engine/transmission.1 -
nryerson1025✭✭✭✭fatmanatcomp wrote: »Mister_DMC wrote: »I
Everything is complicated nowadays, FFS your fridge has a tv in it... Have patience people.
Is that why my game keeps freezing ?
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Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭"If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."0 -
Seri✭✭✭✭
You may want to check the thermostat isn't set too low in that case.fatmanatcomp wrote: »Mister_DMC wrote: »I
Everything is complicated nowadays, FFS your fridge has a tv in it... Have patience people.
Is that why my game keeps freezing ?EP CP160+ Templar, Sorc, NB
DC CP160+ Templar, Sorc, DK0 -
Gargath✭✭✭✭✭
✭fatmanatcomp wrote: »I bought a new car, it runs but has major problems. It’s ok though as I have been told mechanics will pop out every couple of weeks to slowly fix these problems.
Strange though , when I actually try to talk to them about these problems I receive no replies and the phone is never answered. Should I send the car back ?
I'm sure you know, that's because you are alone and they are a great company with millions of customers. If you were a representative of users with the same issue/same support situation or a company using a fleet of 1000 their cars, your chances to be listened would be much higher. Also the guarantee can't be lifetime for any mechanical product, you should know this. If you believed when they told you they will slowly fix the problems, you were naive - they used it against you, but it's you to be blamed here.
So you should not believe them at first, and send the car immediately after purchase if they didn't fully fix it in the first week. Now your only option is to be a representive of a group. It's too late to send the car back alone - consider that they have the best lawyers...PC EU (PL): 14 characters. ESO player since 06.08.2015. Farkas finest quote: "Some people don't think I'm smart. Those people get my fist. But you, I like."0 -
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