Interesting idea. I wouldn't mind if zos themselves did a community event like this so they can finally release the second story varients of these dungeons

Tamriel Ultimated?

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Tamriel Ultimated?

17 march 2015 my bad*

before that they released COA veteran and Crypt of heart Veteran ( That we now call Coa II and COH II ), they probably worked on Arx corinium and Direfrost keep, then the game became F2P with Tamriel ultimated release, and they decided it would be more interesting to sell DLC dungeon Pack in the crown store.

Direfrost's original story left very little in regards to creating a follow up story. Eboric Direfrost does mention making amends with Witches for his family's misdeeds against them but that's not much to work with. It seems unlikely that Witches would seek revenge against the single remaining member of a bloodline just because of past deeds and even if they did, it would seem extreme to send an entire Witches Coven to invade and take over Direfrost Keep. Now, say if they were after some powerful magic artifacts that the Direfrost clan had kept within a vault of sorts in the deeper areas of the keep that they confiscated from Witches they killed, that is something I can work with.

So, upon entering the keep, we get a projection of Eboric contacting us at the entrance. "Damned Witches! I welcome them into my keep and they lock me away to plunder my family's vaults. Who knows what dangerous artifacts could be in there. We cannot allow them to succeed." We proceed into the room with the Troll boss from DFK1 and are welcomed by a small coven of Witches and a Frost Wraith mini boss. After defeating the Miniboss, Eboric calls out to us from the south half of the room, chained up by magic, which we proceed to disable and free him. "Thanks for that. I thought for sure I was going to be stuck in here forever, or until those Witches fed me to their damnable pet." He explains how he ended up in that state about how he had opened up the Keep to witches wishing to reform their ways only for a Witch's Coven to appear to try and steal a powerful artifact that the Direfrost Clan supposedly had locked away in the keep vaults.

We proceed into the main hall marked 1 on the map with more Witches, their Leader, (Let's call her Syla Snowfall) above the stairs, "Well, well, well. Look who came back with his tail between his legs. Oh, and he's brought a pack of mutts with him. No matter, my Coven is moments away from finding the "insert Mcguffin name here" and with its power, we shall be unstoppable" and proceeds to walk away. After dispatching the 1st major boss of the dungeon, Eboric proceed to open up one of the side rooms that was previously unavailable to us in DFK1 (south route labeled 28-31). Room 23 would lead to a Polar Bear side boss and maybe a quest objective. Going north into Room 16 would lead into another Main boss fight. A mechanic for the fight would include tying up a party member in between the 4 pillars central to the room before slowly draining their health/magic/stamina/ultimate and the remaining party members would need to destroy them to free the person before they died, starting with the Health Pillar to lessen the damage they take. After the boss, we'd end up going down Room 15 towards the tower with the switch (Room 12 picture) that would open Room 18 and another quest objective. There would be a possible Draugr mini boss at the entrance to the tower in Room 6/7/8, with a mechanic from DSA Arena 2 that involves keeping the Brazier lit up to prevent freezing to death.

After hitting the switch and clearing out the few mobs within Room 18, we go north into Room 21, with a large collection of Coven members, Draugr, Ice Wraiths and another mini boss fight. After that, we go thru the Hallway leading up to Drodda's old boss room where we fight Syla, whom proceeds to transform herself into a new, larger remodeling of a Winged Twilight. "Fools! You are too late. I have been reborn and you shall all bear witness to my power." Basic attacks include firing off Ice Shards on the Tank, encasing players in destroyable Ice Pillars that slowly kill you if you aren't broken out in time, more light the Braziers to stay alive mechanics and for hard mode, a move that causes Brazier to be permanently encased in ice that will put a timer on the fight as you slowly lose more and more of them until you inevitably wipe or kill her. After winning, Eboric appears again to congratulate us "Well done, my friends. I knew that you'd be able to stop these blasted witches and their schemes. After all the trouble they've caused, I feel my ancestors were right all along to hunt those witches down. It'll take some time, but I'll rebuild the Direfrost clan and together, we'll purge all of Skyrim of these foul creatures. Mark my words, the Direfrost Clan shall return and Skyrim will be a better place for it. You are always welcome to join us my friend."

Snowfall's Helmet
1pc) Spell Damage
2pc) 10% chance on Critical Damage (all critical damage) to encase an enemy in ice, stunning them and dealing X amount of Frost Damage to the target and Y damage in an AoE around the target.

@Silver_Strider .

Wow! Awesome :O

I did not asked for mechanics or sets ideas but ... The decor is here, waiting for a story, mobs, boss, but also incredible and unique bosses and cool sets ! Gonna update my main post ^^ Thank again.

I 100% Agree

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Apherius wrote: »

@Silver_Strider .

Wow! Awesome :O

I did not asked for mechanics or sets ideas but ... The decor is here, waiting for a story, mobs, boss, but also incredible and unique bosses and cool sets ! Gonna update my main post ^^ Thank again.

Not a problem. Now, give me my prize and the map for Arx Corinium 2 so I can write up a story, the progression thru the dungeon, bosses + their mechanics and a monster set for that place as well

Ahah :P Gonna post the images of Arx Corinium II in this thread ( You can already check them on my second thread " see my signature"), Unlike Direfrost keep II the decor is over but not the floor, and there is no map for this dungeon ,I will need to create one myself ^^

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BuddyAces wrote: »

Wait, what?

I would really like zenimax to release Direfrost keep II, all the decor is ready, even though I'm not supposed to know that ( Found a way to get out of Direfrost keep, and then I discovered all that ) took me ages to screen everything.

Since 2015 ( Tamriel ultimated) they don't care about base game dungeon anymore, it is surely better to sell DLC dungeon pack twice a year.

Direfrost keep II is one of these an abandoned feature along with Arx Corinium II.

While the decor is ready, there is not a single book there ( except one about dark magic ) unlike other dungeons, so I deduced that they had not worked on the "story" part yet. otherwise they would have put it in the crown shop since long time.

This is the reason why I I suggest a RP contest, along with the realese of Direfrost keep II.

Hope you understand better, even though my english isn't perfect, Gonna put that in my main post.

This, note that 1 and 2 was dungeons with an normal and vet mode. This was changes so all got an normal version and an vet version and only difference is damage and health from enemies.
Had they continued subscription they would have made 2 dungeons as its cheaper than making new.
However its an issue to sell as dlc, however say 4 new dungeons who was of 2 difficulty would probably be popular

Boring personal thoughts:
We enter the dungeon and are greeted by the Nereid Sisters again "If it isn't the wanderers that helped to expel those veil Lamias and their Matriarch. Perhaps you could be persuaded to look into another matter of grave importance. It would seem the Lamias you had vanquished were mere pawns to a larger threat lurking within the ruins. An Argonian Tribe by the name Tahonti, lead by a powerful Shaman have been making preparations for a ritual of some sort. We know not the nature of the ritual but the darkness of it can clearly be felt in the air. We cannot abide this." So we proceed into the dungeon as normal, typically enemies like snakes, lurchers, etc littering the path until room 1 where we get our 1st encounter with the Argonian Tribe, a pack of scavengers and their Leader, Wa Neki, that have decided to utilize some salvaged parts from Ganakton the Tempest in their boss fight, throwing his electrified spines as Spears that pin down party members, electrify the water and call down several lightning bolts on party members that follow them for a few seconds. After they're defeated, we hear more Argonians off screen shouting "Wa Neki has been slain. We must retreat and inform the village." We continue onward thru more generic monsters until we get into Room 3, which is were we get our next mini boss, a trio of Kagouti with a couple dozen dead bodies around, which become Bog Blights throughout the fight. It's pretty much the Transmuted Alit fight from DC2, just with Bog Blights thrown in for the extra annoyance factor.

Thru the vine barrier into the hallway covered in Trap plants and Argonian Tribesmans. Upon entering room 8, we get ambushed by a gauntlet of mobs with more trap plants around the arena, leading up to a nice Wamasu boss fight that has us using Catapult Plants to our advantage whenever he charges to stun him for a few seconds, assuming you align him just right to do so. After that we cut our way thru Hackwings, Lurchers and other mobs, we get into room 13 where the Sister of Flood comes out from within the River, "I bring grave news wanderers. My sisters have been captured by the Tribesman and are being twisted by their foul magics. We must put a stop to this or I fear that they will be forever lost to me." Off we go into room 16, where we see the Sister of Rain being slowly corrupted by 4 Shaman enemies and a boss battle ensues with the Shaman Counsel. In this fight, each Shaman will take turns to fight you as the other Shamans hold the Sister of Rain under their control, using different special attacks to try and kill you, all while the Sister of Rain is spawning water pillars at you periodically throughout the fight

• Shaman 1 - Roots your party in a similar fashion to the Lurcher boss of MHK. Dodge to avoid the root or to break out of it.
• Shaman 2 - Streaks around the room, leaving a lingering Lighting Puddle as he does. Best way to handle it is to tank him along the wall so that the puddles aren't covering a lot of the arena (note: Lightning Puddles touching water charges up the Sister of Rain and adds a really nasty DoT on you if you get hit with any of her pillar attacks)
• Shaman 3 - Will teleport to a random spot and start channeling to summons Trap Plants, including those super dangerous poison plants from MA 7, which coupled with Catapult Plants can easily end up killing you. A simple interrupt or bash attack will stop him before he summons too many plants.
• Shaman 4 - Summons a totem that will tether to 1 party member, causing them to become drawn towards the totem and if they reach it are instantly killed. Just have a player stand between the totem and the party member for a few seconds to break the tether. (Note: the person that broke the tether will be the next target of the mechanic)

Once a Shaman reaches 25%, he'll withdraw from the fight and the next Shaman appears. After all 4 have been brought down to 25%, they'll all engage you at once, at which point you'll no longer need to worry about the Sister or Rain's Pillar mechanic as she'll be stunned for the remainder of the fight and have to deal with all the Shaman mechanics at once instead.

After we're done taking down the Shaman Council, we get a nice little pat on the back from the Sister of Rain "Thank you for releasing me from my bindings. Had they fully taken a hold of my mind, I fear your defeat would have been assured. Make haste for their Leader, Sah Tahonti has my Sister in his clutches and I fear the worst." Off we go into room 19 and the final boss of the dungeon with an unusual introduction to Sah as he finishes turning the Sister of Storms into his thrall.

"So, they're all dead then? I cannot imagine my kinsman letting you into our Hatching Pools without fighting to their last breath. Tell me, why have to come here to our home? Why did you feel the need to slaughter my tribe down to the last? Did you revel in their slaughter as they died to protect our village and our unborn children? I suppose it doesn't matter now. I shall not allow my tribe to end here. I will protect these eggs with my life!!!" Well get to that story later, now we start the boss fight with the Sister of Storm creating 4 columns of water that circle around the arena. Sah, firing off an Overload Heavy Attack that covers the entire quarter of the room in front of him with lighting. This mechanic requires the tank to grab aggro and stand inside of the Overload attacks (damage isn't too too high that a healer can't keep you alive), slowly turning the boss to prevent at least 1 column of water from being turned into an electrical vortex of death as you need at least 1 for the group to hide in when he does his ultimate move to prevent a wipe. At about 80% Health (or after doing his Overload for a few seconds), he'll start doing the Ultimate attack, which covers the entire field in a poisonous mist and everyone needs to run to a non-electrial water column to survive (again, the damage the pillar does is negligible) while the rest of the columns explode. After this, he'll start summoning down lightning AoEs on random party members, occasionally summon trap plants and totem, etc. At around 25%, only 2 columns will appear and move at a much quicker pace while he's Overloading, meaning you have to be quick to prevent both pillars becoming electrified. Hard mode would be that his Overload covers an entire half of a room instead of a merely a quarter, only 2 columns appear during these Overload phases that move quicker than normal, with the final 25% only spawning 1 column of water for safety while moving even faster.

After the fight, we have a discussion with Sah "I have failed. With my death, my Tribe will be no more and these eggs will surely not survive alone. Please, stranger, I beseech you. Spare my life and allow me to finish the Hatching Ritual so that my tribe may live on. We shall find a new home within the Marshes, away from these accursed ruins. Please!!!" We can either spare him and allow him to finish the ritual or kill him. After we've made our choice we meet the 3 Sisters at the Water source at Room 23 with Dialogue changing depending on our decision to spare or kill Sal.

Spare: "Why have you allowed that foul creature to survive?" You calm the Nereids down with your words but they're still distrustful of Sal "We shall allow him to retreat but shall monitor him closely. If we sense anything is amiss, we will not hesitate to finish what you could not."
Killed "And so the deed is done. You have done well wanderer." You explain the situation to the Nereids which makes them somewhat regretfull of how everything played out. "If what you say is true then we shall see to it that the eggs come to no harm. We shall carry them down river and deliver them onto a safe haven. You have our word Wanderer."

Monster Set: Tahonti's Crown
1pc: Increase Max Magic
1pc: Increase Max Stamina
2pc: 15% change on dealing direct damage to call forth either a vortex of electrical water or a cloud of poison that deals X amount of Lightning Damage or Poison damage every 1 second for 5 seconds. 5 second CD.

It's a twisted story, admittedly but I'm fairly bias when it comes to Argonians and hate to depict them in a wholly negative light if I can help it, so I figured I'd make it a bit of an emotional tragedy. I doubt it would get implemented since ZOS seems to like making us into the good guy (Hell, even the Dark Brotherhood had us killing a Corrupt Priest as the main villain) but it's nice to have something different every now and again to keep things fresh.

Really wish all the ones what don't have have a 2nd version...to be created! more post like this please

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Silver_Strider wrote: »

It's a twisted story, admittedly but I'm fairly bias when it comes to Argonians and hate to depict them in a wholly negative light if I can help it, so I figured I'd make it a bit of an emotional tragedy. I doubt it would get implemented since ZOS seems to like making us into the good guy (Hell, even the Dark Brotherhood had us killing a Corrupt Priest as the main villain) but it's nice to have something different every now and again to keep things fresh.

Zos really need to Hire you ... Awesome story,mechanics and set idea ! I would really like to discover other abandoned features like that out of the dungeons maps ... just to read more of your ideas :O

Thank again for your participation, I really hope they will release these dungeon ... the only way is to show them our interest.

Considering that I gave them a pretty solid rough draft of both dungeons + their mechanics and that the dungeon layouts are pretty much done as well, there's virtually no reason ZOS couldn't finish up both these dungeons in a month, especially since 75% of the work is already done for them. Polish up the story a bit, code up the mobs/bosses/etc. and they could easily include them alongside whatever 2 new dungeons they decide to include for Q1 next year.

I would love a chance to kill the scummy quest giver from Selene's Web. He has it coming!

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RebornV3x wrote: »

I'd rather have Selenes Web 2 lot more there to work with in terms of story

I would LOVE a Selene's Web 2 where we get to smoke Warlock Carindon, that guy so deserves it.

Yeah roll him up like a good J and get speedrun for smoking him within 5min

BTT: I think they really need to get Direfrost 2 and Arx 2 out there. Since some parts already exist, and it would be a nice step towards only basegame owners.

For Arx Corinium II, we should be dealing with the Nereid trouble. Nereids are incredibly unkind creatures (And considering the flow of Fungal Grotto and other dungeons, we've accidently helped terribly beings before). Lamia are hermaphroditic snake-people[1][2] who decided to take the fort as their nest, we essentially slaughtered an entire family of snake-people for sadistic water spirits who love drowning males and messing with mortals for the sake of their own personal entertainment.[3][4]

I presume the quest could star an Imperial adventuring (or Undaunted) crew who wanted to learn about the secrets of this old fort, but are having troubles with the Nereids who have been toying with their mortal memories[5] and potentially turning the own crew against itself. So, we'll have to deal with both the Nereids and the adventurers who have been turned on each other. Water is memory in the Elder Scrolls, I don't know if the manipulation of memories will effect Argonians considering they aren't apart of Nirn, so I personally would recommend having this focus upon Imperials and other races who come from the Dreamsleeve (and not the Dreamsleeve of the Hist like Argonians)[6]. This quest may get a little metaphysical, but Nereids are water spirits and thus hold grounds on memory. Damnable Aedric entities!

But the dungeon is an amalgamation of both Fungal Grotto II, Spindleclutch I and Selene's Web if you will. I would consider the mechanics should be short and sweet like so, considering this is a non-DLC dungeon.




Citations
[1] Kyne's Challenge - "The female form is often misunderstood; it is a mirage to coax the lascivious males that make up most of their prey, as this creature reproduces as a base reptile, and is sexless."
[2] The Improved Emperor's Guide to Tamriel - Hammerfell - "The Lamia is an amalgam of snake and woman, although it is assumed they are hermaphroditic and lay eggs like a reptile (which are then abandoned and the immature Lamiae are left to fend for themselves)."
[3] The Fallen City of Shada - Pissed off Nereids 1
[4] Look at all those dead bodies... - Pissed off Nereids 2
[5] Lorelia - Quest: Mistress of the Lake - This lady toys with memories!
[6] Events of Murkmire...NO SPOILERS!