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kaithuzar
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If stamina gets bleeds which ignore resistances & ZOS wants to leave that in the game...

WHERE is my “blood magic” that ignores resistances!?!?!?
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  • Xvorg
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    kaithuzar wrote: »
    If stamina gets bleeds which ignore resistances & ZOS wants to leave that in the game...

    WHERE is my “blood magic” that ignores resistances!?!?!?

    Technically it should be oblivion dmg, but...
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  • Checkmath
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    Oblivion damage is not comparable to bleeding, since it only comes from sets and enchants, which are for every class and spec. Probably the thing coming closest to bleeds is burning, since it is also kind of a proc, so it is free damage.
  • usmguy1234
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    Checkmath wrote: »
    Oblivion damage is not comparable to bleeding, since it only comes from sets and enchants, which are for every class and spec. Probably the thing coming closest to bleeds is burning, since it is also kind of a proc, so it is free damage.

    So make burning ignore resists? My mdk approves of this!
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  • The_Camper
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    As soon as all the magicka weapons and abilities are melee ranged.. you don't expect to apply bleeds from 30 meters away are you?
  • Ragnaroek93
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    I have 0 resis against a magicka build anyways, so give them bleeds and give stamina an equivalent of Ele Drain in exchange (:
  • Biro123
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    I have 0 resis against a magicka build anyways, so give them bleeds and give stamina an equivalent of Ele Drain in exchange (:

    Isn't that pierce armour? I'd love a cheap spammable that did reasonable damage and applied a strong debuff on my sorc'!
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  • The_Camper
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    Biro123 wrote: »
    The_Camper wrote: »
    As soon as all the magicka weapons and abilities are melee ranged.. you don't expect to apply bleeds from 30 meters away are you?

    Why not? Do people not bleed when you shoot them?

    by that logic, 1 Reverse slice from a 1.5 meter long 2H sword should insta kill anyone :P
  • Biro123
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    The_Camper wrote: »
    Biro123 wrote: »
    The_Camper wrote: »
    As soon as all the magicka weapons and abilities are melee ranged.. you don't expect to apply bleeds from 30 meters away are you?

    Why not? Do people not bleed when you shoot them?

    by that logic, 1 Reverse slice from a 1.5 meter long 2H sword should insta kill anyone :P

    Yep. I don't get how that supports your argument on ranged bleeds though..
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    I have 0 resis against a magicka build anyways, so give them bleeds and give stamina an equivalent of Ele Drain in exchange (:

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  • Minno
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    They should increase the penetration of destro passive to 15%-20%.

    But then again destro let's you havea 20% chance to proc status effects with force pulse something stamina doesn't have.

  • ak_pvp
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    The_Camper wrote: »
    As soon as all the magicka weapons and abilities are melee ranged.. you don't expect to apply bleeds from 30 meters away are you?

    Melee you say? I believe the only melee magicka dots belong to DK. Shall we make them ignore resists?

    Trust me I don't think you want that, and take them away from stam.
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  • killahsin
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    Galarthor wrote: »
    kaithuzar wrote: »
    If stamina gets bleeds which ignore resistances & ZOS wants to leave that in the game...

    WHERE is my “blood magic” that ignores resistances!?!?!?

    We all know ZOS heavily favors stamina.

    technically ZoS has been fairly balanced. 2 years of mag cloth domination and 2 years of stamina being superior in some archtypes while having some players in god mode mag builds ambiently dmging the entire map.
  • Aldul
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    when cancer bleeds...
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  • dassneakereb17_ESO
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    learn difference between phys dot and bleed
  • IZZEFlameLash
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    To be fair, logic dictates that one cannot deter the effect of extreme hotness, shocks and frost with mere piece of armor. It also says that bleeding should not be possible against HA with 0 flesh showing because... how would an axe make someone bleed to death when it hits heavily armored opponents? Fire will make every clothes to burn while making metal too hot to endure. Shock, you cannot deter much as well. Frost, you can only layer your clothes so much when trying not to gimp your movement... I like the sound of ignoring resists for magicka. :grin:
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  • idk
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    Checkmath wrote: »
    Oblivion damage is not comparable to bleeding, since it only comes from sets and enchants, which are for every class and spec. Probably the thing coming closest to bleeds is burning, since it is also kind of a proc, so it is free damage.

    @Checkmath

    I had thought fire damage was affected by resistance. Am I wrong about that? If that is the case then it is not close at all to bleeds in the context OP is talking about.

    Granted, you are deemed one or the more knowledgeable ones here which is why I inquire.

    Edit: also, bleeds themselves are not kind of procs. While some sets may proc bleeds, the original, and most used bleeds, come from actual skills such as Twin Slashes and axes back when they were guaranteed to leave a bleed.
    Edited by idk on October 29, 2018 3:56AM
  • Checkmath
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    idk wrote: »
    Checkmath wrote: »
    Oblivion damage is not comparable to bleeding, since it only comes from sets and enchants, which are for every class and spec. Probably the thing coming closest to bleeds is burning, since it is also kind of a proc, so it is free damage.

    @Checkmath

    I had thought fire damage was affected by resistance. Am I wrong about that? If that is the case then it is not close at all to bleeds in the context OP is talking about.

    Granted, you are deemed one or the more knowledgeable ones here which is why I inquire.

    Edit: also, bleeds themselves are not kind of procs. While some sets may proc bleeds, the original, and most used bleeds, come from actual skills such as Twin Slashes and axes back when they were guaranteed to leave a bleed.

    @idk

    I never said, that burning ignores resistances. I only said, that it comes the closest to bleeds, since its a proc from fire damage abilities similar to bleed, since bleed is either a skill (cleave or rending slash) or a proc from swinging axes. I only compared it regarding as a proc and therefore free damage, since there is no other magicka damage proc with free damage and oblivion damage is bound to a glyph. Also is oblivion damage accessible to everyone and does not favor magicka or stamina, since it does not scale.

    So summarized, I only mentioned burning as the closest to bleeds, because it is free damage and can proc similar to bleeds, I did not mention anything from ignoring resistances.
  • idk
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    Understand, but in the context of the OP it is not comparable. It seems by you reply you understand that.
  • mojomood
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    Add a fourth type of Destro staff. Call it Oblivion or Blood magic and make all oblivion damage scale with spell damage like bleeds scale with phyical damage. However, max range on damaging skills of 20 meters with damage increasing the closer you are to the target.
  • Amdar_Godkiller
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    Make frost damage ignore crit restistance...
  • Jimmy_The_Fixer
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    Make frost damage ignore crit restistance...

    Crit resist is too important to pvp, if a change like this went through I'd immediately racechange my warden to altmer and run frost clench as my spammable.

    My crit damage CP would bypass the crit resist CP as well as all of the impenetrable gear that the person would be wearing, it'd be a bloodbath.
    Edited by Jimmy_The_Fixer on October 30, 2018 1:57PM
  • Skander
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    Checkmath wrote: »
    Oblivion damage is not comparable to bleeding, since it only comes from sets and enchants, which are for every class and spec. Probably the thing coming closest to bleeds is burning, since it is also kind of a proc, so it is free damage.

    Burning=poison
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  • Minno
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    Make frost damage ignore crit restistance...

    Crit resist is too important to pvp, if a change like this went through I'd immediately racechange my warden to altmer and run frost clench as my spammable.

    My crit damage CP would bypass the crit resist CP as well as all of the impenetrable gear that the person would be wearing, it'd be a bloodbath.

    i agree that suggestion is too much.

    Beside ice staff is fine, it's just not a BIS pve tank weapon so it gets ALOT of hate lol
  • Biro123
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    Make frost damage ignore crit restistance...

    Crit resist is too important to pvp, if a change like this went through I'd immediately racechange my warden to altmer and run frost clench as my spammable.

    My crit damage CP would bypass the crit resist CP as well as all of the impenetrable gear that the person would be wearing, it'd be a bloodbath.

    But without the bleeding! :wink:
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  • Amdar_Godkiller
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    Make frost damage ignore crit restistance...

    Crit resist is too important to pvp, if a change like this went through I'd immediately racechange my warden to altmer and run frost clench as my spammable.

    My crit damage CP would bypass the crit resist CP as well as all of the impenetrable gear that the person would be wearing, it'd be a bloodbath.

    There aren't that many sources of frost damage and several of them are further-weakened by the fact that they scale with max health, and it would allow frost damage to be more meaningful. Considering you could still mitigate it with spell resistance and cP, I don't think it would be much different than bleed damage.
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Biro123 wrote: »
    The_Camper wrote: »
    As soon as all the magicka weapons and abilities are melee ranged.. you don't expect to apply bleeds from 30 meters away are you?

    Why not? Do people not bleed when you shoot them?

    Loool

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