Abysswarrior45 wrote: »

Integral1900 wrote: »

I got bored after the second run so I admire your fortitude... I got a dagger with training, a friend has been at it since it first appeared, currently at two hundred runs, they have never seen a fire staff of any description, instead it seems bent on giving he bows.... she realy hates bows....

Since Wrothgar patch and shes only on 200? Shoot... shes pretty slow. I had to run it probably 160 times to get my 2h greatsword back in the day when it was still good. And at that time you had to farm the specific trait you wanted as well. Quit complaining! Something tells me you've only ran it a few times and haven't gotten the drop you wanted so you come on here crying about it. Put in the work the rest of us did.

Its not work.

The entire rng experience is stupid in there. You cant sit there and say 'do the work' when people get it on run 1 when others do scores of runs to get it. Why does that make sense to you? Why should our terrible experiences be forced upon others?

I have done around 200 runs. But including 8 characters on the leaderboards each week for quite some time there have been many more rewards than 200 and i managed to get everything.

I would not wish the time consuming and punishing gameplay experience i went through on anyone because i feel it turns players off the game.

I advocate for a token system that at least gives people something on the horizon to look towards. Not just this 'do the work' attitude with a real possibility of never achieving your goal.

Haquor wrote: »

Said every player ever.

Yep

jabrone77 wrote: »

I have every weapon from vMA multiple times over.....except the bow. After running vMA at least 200 times. The one weapon I truly want for my PvE bow users.

RNG can be a ***....

I got one bow but really really want at least one more - prefer two - for the Murkmire patch. RNGesus has given me enough staves (mainly Resto) and plenty of every stam weapon except the bow

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I am half convinced they weight the drops to give you the opposite of your most used resource.

there might be some truth to this

160 to 170 for my maelstrom inferno

Is everyone's rng really that bad? Lol

I've ran it over 100 times and have gotten a pretty even spread on drops without regarding traits.

Oh well

Assuming a flat distribution on drops for different items:

Number of runs: Chance you have received at least one of the item you want:
1 4.76%
2 9.30%
3 13.62%
4 17.73%
5 21.65%
6 25.38%
7 28.93%
8 32.32%
9 35.54%
10 38.61%
11 41.53%
12 44.32%
13 46.97%
14 49.49%
15 51.90%
16 54.19%
17 56.37%
18 58.45%
19 60.43%
20 62.31%
21 64.11%
22 65.82%
23 67.44%
24 68.99%
25 70.47%
26 71.88%
27 73.22%
28 74.49%
29 75.71%
30 76.86%
31 77.96%
32 79.01%
33 80.01%
34 80.96%
35 81.87%
36 82.73%
37 83.56%
38 84.34%
39 85.09%
40 85.80%
41 86.47%
42 87.12%
43 87.73%
44 88.31%
45 88.87%
46 89.40%
47 89.91%
48 90.39%
49 90.84%
50 91.28%
51 91.69%
52 92.09%
53 92.47%
54 92.83%
55 93.17%
56 93.49%
57 93.80%
58 94.10%
59 94.38%
60 94.65%
61 94.90%
62 95.14%
63 95.38%
64 95.60%
65 95.81%
66 96.01%
67 96.20%
68 96.38%
69 96.55%
70 96.71%
71 96.87%
72 97.02%
73 97.16%
74 97.30%
75 97.42%
76 97.55%
77 97.66%
78 97.78%
79 97.88%
80 97.98%
81 98.08%
82 98.17%
83 98.26%
84 98.34%
85 98.42%
86 98.49%
87 98.57%
88 98.63%
89 98.70%
90 98.76%
91 98.82%
92 98.88%
93 98.93%
94 98.98%
95 99.03%
96 99.08%
97 99.12%
98 99.16%
99 99.20%
100 99.24%

I got my shock staff somewhere between 15 and 20 runs so a little worse than average. To have run hundreds of times and still not receive a single item you want is truely exceptional and an achievement in itself!

edit: assuming 21 combinations after discounting traits

My vMA Weapon drops were ok I guess. I don t how many runs but enough to get Flawless (thus, many runs). My main frustration has been winterborn rings. I haven t seen any, even after the supposed fix to ring drops post-summerset

You have to pump these numbers up i ran it at least 100 times now and still no inferno staff not even from leaderboard rewards

Did vMA 2 times. First time I got some 2h hammer. Second time was during a holiday event. Got flame staff AND nirnhoned bow.
So there's that.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I am half convinced they weight the drops to give you the opposite of your most used resource.

If that were the case I ought to have more than one bow... since I've only completed it on mag characters.