Haashhtaag wrote: »

I'd rather have sloads back with this current meta of enchants. Literally all my deaths in PvP have included 10k+ enchant damage because of the changes that were made. Now when i'm trying to stay alive with healing ward that shield is shredded so I get no healing from that. Removing the heal that was applied when casting healing ward was the absolute second worse change behind enchants. Now when I get decrease health on as a mag user I'm dead without a chance because unresistable damage.

Welocme to the club. I am suffering form teh same issues as well, even if all of my shields are on me including a 4th one boundaegis i am still dead by one hit basicly. We got totaly wiped of existance in PVP enviroment too and pve as well.

Haashhtaag wrote: »

I'd rather have sloads back with this current meta of enchants. Literally all my deaths in PvP have included 10k+ enchant damage because of the changes that were made. Now when i'm trying to stay alive with healing ward that shield is shredded so I get no healing from that. Removing the heal that was applied when casting healing ward was the absolute second worse change behind enchants. Now when I get decrease health on as a mag user I'm dead without a chance because unresistable damage.

Change. Adapt.

Enough QQ. If you PvP'ers can't handle the nerfs, maybe stop asking for nerfs.

Phage wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

I'd rather have sloads back with this current meta of enchants. Literally all my deaths in PvP have included 10k+ enchant damage because of the changes that were made. Now when i'm trying to stay alive with healing ward that shield is shredded so I get no healing from that. Removing the heal that was applied when casting healing ward was the absolute second worse change behind enchants. Now when I get decrease health on as a mag user I'm dead without a chance because unresistable damage.

Change. Adapt.

Enough QQ. If you PvP'ers can't handle the nerfs, maybe stop asking for nerfs.

Maybe if vet trials weren't all magicka dps only and vet dungeons weren't one tank and 3 magicka dps, they wouldn't have nerfed magicka shields

And nobody will leave and quit so nothing will change. Only when people quit and stop playing and or stop giving money to Zenimax will things change. Don't like the changes, stop playing and do something else. Other wise Zenimax will just keep doing what they want to keep doing.

Power is in our hands. When I didn't like the changes Zenimax did, I stopped playing and went to other games. Came back later and saw changes back again to when I like them. Zenimax gets my money when I like what they do. When they do something I don't like, they don't get my money and that money goes to their competitors.

Katahdin wrote: »

Phage wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

I'd rather have sloads back with this current meta of enchants. Literally all my deaths in PvP have included 10k+ enchant damage because of the changes that were made. Now when i'm trying to stay alive with healing ward that shield is shredded so I get no healing from that. Removing the heal that was applied when casting healing ward was the absolute second worse change behind enchants. Now when I get decrease health on as a mag user I'm dead without a chance because unresistable damage.

Change. Adapt.

Enough QQ. If you PvP'ers can't handle the nerfs, maybe stop asking for nerfs.

Maybe if vet trials weren't all magicka dps only and vet dungeons weren't one tank and 3 magicka dps, they wouldn't have nerfed magicka shields

That's 100% false and unsupported nerf propaganda. Vets never were all mag dps, nor were they necessary. Only leaderboard runs ever were majority mag dps.

Vet dungeons were never all 1 tank 3 mag DD either. In fact the strongest vet dungeon hardmode achievement runs I saw last patch were done with 3 STAM dps, pushing 55k+ DPS each. And even that wasn't necessary. You could still (and can still) get every dungeon achievement with the standard 1 tank, 1 heal, 2 DD setup.

Katahdin wrote: »

Phage wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

I'd rather have sloads back with this current meta of enchants. Literally all my deaths in PvP have included 10k+ enchant damage because of the changes that were made. Now when i'm trying to stay alive with healing ward that shield is shredded so I get no healing from that. Removing the heal that was applied when casting healing ward was the absolute second worse change behind enchants. Now when I get decrease health on as a mag user I'm dead without a chance because unresistable damage.

Change. Adapt.

Enough QQ. If you PvP'ers can't handle the nerfs, maybe stop asking for nerfs.

Maybe if vet trials weren't all magicka dps only and vet dungeons weren't one tank and 3 magicka dps, they wouldn't have nerfed magicka shields

Lol the only 3 DD runs I see organized in my guilds are 3 stam. Magicka are way too slow to farm stuff efficiently.

Phage wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

I'd rather have sloads back with this current meta of enchants. Literally all my deaths in PvP have included 10k+ enchant damage because of the changes that were made. Now when i'm trying to stay alive with healing ward that shield is shredded so I get no healing from that. Removing the heal that was applied when casting healing ward was the absolute second worse change behind enchants. Now when I get decrease health on as a mag user I'm dead without a chance because unresistable damage.

Change. Adapt.

Enough QQ. If you PvP'ers can't handle the nerfs, maybe stop asking for nerfs.

Hahaha this exactly!! Cry for nerfs, cry when get nerfs.....

DanteYoda wrote: »

Warden never deserved nerfs, was bad enough before.

I mean, stamdens are gonna be just fine. So will warden tanks. But yeah, RIP magwardens wanting to be anything other than healers. Not new, but this patch didn't help them by any means.

looooool when will you people realise, they dont really play the game.

Theyre at work all day working on the day, they dont go home to play it more theyre sick to death of it.
So sick that their decision making is an absolute terrible mess, theyre so out of touch with the PVP side its unbelieavable.

Class rep programme is a bunch of people and their circle of friends who think theyre valuable enough for their opinion to be heard but really ZOS has introduced it so they can shut up and stop bothering them. Their opinions mean little to what actually happens with the game lmao

Katahdin wrote: »

Phage wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

I'd rather have sloads back with this current meta of enchants. Literally all my deaths in PvP have included 10k+ enchant damage because of the changes that were made. Now when i'm trying to stay alive with healing ward that shield is shredded so I get no healing from that. Removing the heal that was applied when casting healing ward was the absolute second worse change behind enchants. Now when I get decrease health on as a mag user I'm dead without a chance because unresistable damage.

Change. Adapt.

Enough QQ. If you PvP'ers can't handle the nerfs, maybe stop asking for nerfs.

Maybe if vet trials weren't all magicka dps only and vet dungeons weren't one tank and 3 magicka dps, they wouldn't have nerfed magicka shields

For a beta tester you truly show a lack of understanding of this game. vet trials being all magicka dps? Weird I see 4 stamina in all vet trials, tho vet mini-trial is something else. And to be honest can't be blamed on magica but on lazy design by ZOS.

And for the dungeon comment. Sorry, it's false. Everyone know that you run 1 tank 3 stamina dps for easiest runs with highest dmg and stacked vigor. No need for Healer there.

Magicka? We've been trial fillers for over a year now. Allways "how many stamina can we bring?" Because of the insane high DPS numbers stamina have. Survivability on stam? Yah, they changed trial dmg in Morrowind so all dmg in a trial counts as AoE dmg, and gave stamina a way to reduce said dmg... Stack that with vigor and being favored by the healers and they never died. *Flashbacks to 4 stam DKs standing under last boss vHoF soaking ungodly dmg without any issues*

Oh, and having raid filled with magicka NIGHTBLADES does not mean anything for magicka overall, they were used because of their overpowered dmg, selfhealing, grphealing, grputility. NOT their shields......

SirDopey wrote: »

Phage wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

I'd rather have sloads back with this current meta of enchants. Literally all my deaths in PvP have included 10k+ enchant damage because of the changes that were made. Now when i'm trying to stay alive with healing ward that shield is shredded so I get no healing from that. Removing the heal that was applied when casting healing ward was the absolute second worse change behind enchants. Now when I get decrease health on as a mag user I'm dead without a chance because unresistable damage.

Change. Adapt.

Enough QQ. If you PvP'ers can't handle the nerfs, maybe stop asking for nerfs.

Hahaha this exactly!! Cry for nerfs, cry when get nerfs.....

And scuse me, can the stamblade please get out? Used to run shieldbreaker aswell I see. hmm. How did you adapt? Do you still find yourself at the wrong side of sorcs? find them easy to gank now? Tell us. Please

Gotta love how you people are making this about shields when this is an issue affecting all pvp independently of class, magicka or stamina...

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

Gotta love how you people are making this about shields when this is an issue affecting all pvp independently of class, magicka or stamina...

It also affects all of PvE independently of class, magicka or stamina.

Doesn't keep some people from whining for nerfs. And then whining about the nerfs.

ZOS really should make nerf request threads against forum rules.

the only thing concern me is the way weapon glyph work in pvp.
keep dot on your backbar and it will out damage your light attack front bar, so stupid.

ezio45 wrote: »

I was/ am too busy complaining about shields to read the enchant stuff, what'd they do/ break

Enchants proc from both bars now they also proc from both DW swords they proc from DoT damage like bleeds, they CD can be decreased with Torug and power will be increased, now apply this to infused golden Oblivion damage glyph.