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Murkmire Stam Meta Cheese build.

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Stamblade:

2x Troll King
5x Heavy Shackle
3x Spriggans Jewellery + Spriggans 2h Nirn(main bar) Berserk glyph.
2x Master Axes Infused, disease + stam return glyphs. Make use of 30% regen passive on kill + 10% dmg in heavy's.

All impen.

Gold broth takeaway.

Apply rending and go on as normal as an insane heavy bleedblade. Grats now your rending is hitting 2-3k ticks because stamblade has incap + minor berserk to boost it with the master weps and the glyphs are proccing on cooldown.

So in total you rending someone and dealing roughly 4-6k~ dmg every 2s depending on crits without incap.

Plus you are also on a build with:
3-3.5k hp regen,
2k~ stam regen,
36-38k stam,
3.2k wpn dmg with glyph
12k Pen with cp + spriggans + major fracture.
Enough magicka and magicka sustain to fear and cloak when needed.


Welcome. to Murkmire, feel free to use this on pretyt much any stam build and melt everything. Feel free to switch shackle for others like 7th/ fury/ ravager etc...
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  • Aznox
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    Nothing new except the Glyph procs and Spriggans being viable against shields.

    Will definitely work though :)
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  • leepalmer95
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    Aznox wrote: »
    Nothing new except the Glyph procs and Spriggans being viable against shields.

    Will definitely work though :)

    Yeah the glyph thing changes a lot though.

    Now you have 4-6k worth of dmg every 2s from them, can make use of the better 2h passives for you main bar, get extra stam regen from the newly changed stam return glyph, have a constant chance to proc defile when disease glyph procs.

    And yeah spriggans working on shields so now it's likely the best main bar set for this patch for pvp.
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  • Skander
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  • leepalmer95
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    Skander wrote: »
    Elder Stamblades Online

    Well any stam class can use it and melt anything but yeah stamblade is the most suited to it. Also cloak weirdly enough is the best counter to the glyph procs and bleeds.

    So it's the strongest when using it and is the best counter to it lmao.
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  • ATomiX96
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    elder setdiversity online *falls asleep*

    cant wait to run fortified brass and armor master on my magsorc for *** and giggles :trollface:
    Edited by ATomiX96 on October 23, 2018 10:08AM
  • lucky_dutch
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    Spriggans and bleeds?

    This ain't it, chief.
  • TheDoomsdayMonster
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    Stamblade:

    2x Troll King
    5x Heavy Shackle
    3x Spriggans Jewellery + Spriggans 2h Nirn(main bar) Berserk glyph.
    2x Master Axes Infused, disease + stam return glyphs. Make use of 30% regen passive on kill + 10% dmg in heavy's.

    All impen.

    Gold broth takeaway.

    Apply rending and go on as normal as an insane heavy bleedblade. Grats now your rending is hitting 2-3k ticks because stamblade has incap + minor berserk to boost it with the master weps and the glyphs are proccing on cooldown.

    So in total you rending someone and dealing roughly 4-6k~ dmg every 2s depending on crits without incap.

    Plus you are also on a build with:
    3-3.5k hp regen,
    2k~ stam regen,
    36-38k stam,
    3.2k wpn dmg with glyph
    12k Pen with cp + spriggans + major fracture.
    Enough magicka and magicka sustain to fear and cloak when needed.


    Welcome. to Murkmire, feel free to use this on pretyt much any stam build and melt everything. Feel free to switch shackle for others like 7th/ fury/ ravager etc...

    That's a good build, but I'm not scared of it...

    It'll be tanky, but as long as you have an answer for Bleeds, the damage isn't anything special...

    Inaddition it'll lack mobility compared to those using 5 Medium or 5 Light (especially since Speed Pots now only last 12 seconds)...
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  • olsborg
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    DW weapon glyphs and how they work in murkmire is pretty bonkers, dunno how ZOS could ever release it like this to live...oh wait...

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  • Qbiken
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    olsborg wrote: »
    DW weapon glyphs and how they work in murkmire is pretty bonkers, dunno how ZOS could ever release it like this to live...oh wait...

    It was a bug fix, so apparently ZOS wanted it to work this way :/
  • Waffennacht
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    Nothing new. Like not at all new.

    One of the top performing PvP build just got better.

    Still can't believe people talk about Sorcs or mag like they are dominate.

    Goes to show, no matter what happens, people will blame their own inexperience to abilities being "OP"

    That and people love to see something they don't use nerfed.

    How, oh how, does NB get so much?
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  • Jaxaxo
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    olsborg wrote: »
    DW weapon glyphs and how they work in murkmire is pretty bonkers, dunno how ZOS could ever release it like this to live...oh wait...

    2,1k oblivion dot? :trollface: sload is nothing compared to this

    Edit. Hmmm, why not both? 3k oblivion dps is kinda ok :smiley:
    Edited by Jaxaxo on October 23, 2018 12:23PM
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  • leepalmer95
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    Stamblade:

    2x Troll King
    5x Heavy Shackle
    3x Spriggans Jewellery + Spriggans 2h Nirn(main bar) Berserk glyph.
    2x Master Axes Infused, disease + stam return glyphs. Make use of 30% regen passive on kill + 10% dmg in heavy's.

    All impen.

    Gold broth takeaway.

    Apply rending and go on as normal as an insane heavy bleedblade. Grats now your rending is hitting 2-3k ticks because stamblade has incap + minor berserk to boost it with the master weps and the glyphs are proccing on cooldown.

    So in total you rending someone and dealing roughly 4-6k~ dmg every 2s depending on crits without incap.

    Plus you are also on a build with:
    3-3.5k hp regen,
    2k~ stam regen,
    36-38k stam,
    3.2k wpn dmg with glyph
    12k Pen with cp + spriggans + major fracture.
    Enough magicka and magicka sustain to fear and cloak when needed.


    Welcome. to Murkmire, feel free to use this on pretyt much any stam build and melt everything. Feel free to switch shackle for others like 7th/ fury/ ravager etc...

    That's a good build, but I'm not scared of it...

    It'll be tanky, but as long as you have an answer for Bleeds, the damage isn't anything special...

    Inaddition it'll lack mobility compared to those using 5 Medium or 5 Light (especially since Speed Pots now only last 12 seconds)...

    It'll be more mobile than light for sure.

    It'll be more mobile than medium because even 4s, forward momentum is a cheaper and better snare immunity than shuffle.

    What is the answer to bleeds? Purging? It costs me a lot less to recast rending than it does someone to purge it. Sometime you don't even purge the bleed off either.

    The only answer to bleeds is cloak if people don't slot an aoe and remove you out of it straight away, which is even easier now everyone is a turtle.

    The dmg is still very high, a dmg set + shackle (kind of a jack of all trades) is enough dmg. Still a 11k~ surprise attack but with 12k pen.
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  • Emma_Overload
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    I would feel a lot less butthurt over this build if Magicka had a bleed equivalent, but we don't.
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  • shinikaze
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    at least they fixed the rollblade/shield sorc stuff evereyone was complaining. :) (no one will play using those)
    Welcome To heavy scrolls online! where we you can play however you want (so long as you want to play as a heavy stam spin 2 win build)
    Edited by shinikaze on October 23, 2018 1:05PM
  • themaddaedra
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    Yesterday some HA templar dude hit me with Blood Craze. 2 -litetally 2- hits of Blood Craze caused 7 enchant procs on me. I honestly don't even know anymore. I wasn't able to shield, i wasn't able to run, no nothing. Only purge would give me another couple of seconds but it's cheap af so dude would have done it again as soon as it's purged.

    That's the worst sh*t i've ever seen in ESO PvP tbh. And i've seen many bad things...
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  • TheDoomsdayMonster
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    Stamblade:

    2x Troll King
    5x Heavy Shackle
    3x Spriggans Jewellery + Spriggans 2h Nirn(main bar) Berserk glyph.
    2x Master Axes Infused, disease + stam return glyphs. Make use of 30% regen passive on kill + 10% dmg in heavy's.

    All impen.

    Gold broth takeaway.

    Apply rending and go on as normal as an insane heavy bleedblade. Grats now your rending is hitting 2-3k ticks because stamblade has incap + minor berserk to boost it with the master weps and the glyphs are proccing on cooldown.

    So in total you rending someone and dealing roughly 4-6k~ dmg every 2s depending on crits without incap.

    Plus you are also on a build with:
    3-3.5k hp regen,
    2k~ stam regen,
    36-38k stam,
    3.2k wpn dmg with glyph
    12k Pen with cp + spriggans + major fracture.
    Enough magicka and magicka sustain to fear and cloak when needed.


    Welcome. to Murkmire, feel free to use this on pretyt much any stam build and melt everything. Feel free to switch shackle for others like 7th/ fury/ ravager etc...

    That's a good build, but I'm not scared of it...

    It'll be tanky, but as long as you have an answer for Bleeds, the damage isn't anything special...

    Inaddition it'll lack mobility compared to those using 5 Medium or 5 Light (especially since Speed Pots now only last 12 seconds)...

    The only answer to bleeds is cloak

    Oh that's not true...at all.

    But let's not litter this thread with info that people that can't think for themselves can use...

    ;)

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  • Irylia
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    ATomiX96 wrote: »
    elder setdiversity online *falls asleep*

    cant wait to run fortified brass and armor master on my magsorc for *** and giggles :trollface:

    And all those bleeds ignore resistances and crit on wards.
    Zos just wants us to make hard decisions on how we build. Spec for some mitigation lel.
  • Ragnaroek93
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    Why don't you slot Torugs and slot slashes + 9 buff/defense skills?
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  • leepalmer95
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    Why don't you slot Torugs and slot slashes + 9 buff/defense skills?

    Too op.

    Could go double dw with torugs + blood drinker + master dw + axes though.
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    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


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  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    Good for duells but crap for open world where you barely have enough time per kill e. g. either fighting outnumbered (in what case bleeds are useless anyway)or outnumbering the foe(in what case you´d have wont with any build) i or fighting in a group vs group(also useless you need aoe).
    Its a very strong duelling build... And thats it...
    In open world burst is king... cause with the amount of healers in open world pvp a 3k dot is pretty much laughable.....
    Edited by IlCanis_LupuslI on October 23, 2018 1:42PM
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  • coplannb16_ESO
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    we need dual wield magicka weapons now too :/
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    And at this point just remove all classes and have everyone choose their set of skills. then balance accordingly to skills always used vs. skills never used.
  • Maryal
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    Clothes and armor are over-rated ...
    I say everybody strip and go nakeee!

    Edited by Maryal on October 23, 2018 1:45PM
  • leepalmer95
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    Good for duells but crap for open world where you barely have enough time per kill e. g. either fighting outnumbered (in what case bleeds are useless anyway)or outnumbering the foe(in what case you´d have wont with any build) i or fighting in a group vs group(also useless you need aoe).
    Its a very strong duelling build... And thats it...
    In open world burst is king... cause with the amount of healers in open world pvp a 3k dot is pretty much laughable.....

    Open world burst is king, but burst is not really possible when everyone has 30k hp in heavy armour. Vs noobs, i'll be able to burst them easy on this no problem. But vs anyone with a small idea of what they're doing then 1vx becomes hard on anything. If people build to not be burst you really can't do anything about it.

    Besides with this you still have aoe dawnbreaker and steel tornado can easily be swapped when appropriate .

    Bleeds are 100% not useless in group vs group or small scale. Bleeds are how you focus down priority targets e.g. healers or snipers for example. 2-3k dot with 2-4k enchants every 2s isn't laughable at all. In fact that dmg is enough to really pressure most build on it's own. What do you think happens when you have 4 people with similar dot potential?

    Have you even seen anyone with 3-4 master bleed rendings on them? Easy 8k bleed every 2s minimum can easily go to 12k~ Now that plus en extra 2-4k enchantment procs (with defile chance) per person and that is not 'useless'.

    It's more a small scale build and in small scale dots are great, when i can rending someone and deal so much dps and pressure from 1 skill it's amazing. It's what you need vs heal bots/ tanky people.
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  • Asardes
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    Why not Stam Sorc with Slimercraw? :)
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  • KingLogix
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    This sounds interesting! I run Willows heavy rn/TK/master dw/spriggans front bar, and have 2200 non pot regen with all WD glyphs(i also use dubious, and am a wood elf).

    I have a question. I know dw is getting really popular because weapon skills are proccing glyphs now. I understand rending is allowing glyps to proc on cool down
    A) does this mean infused off hand may be bis again?
    b) Would it be better for us to start dpsing on dw to make full use of the glyphs procs on cool down?
    c) would dpsing on dw to take advantage of glyph on cd be better then dps ing on 2h to get 30% regen for 10 seconds?

    let me know your thoughts!
  • Waffennacht
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    KingLogix wrote: »
    This sounds interesting! I run Willows heavy rn/TK/master dw/spriggans front bar, and have 2200 non pot regen with all WD glyphs(i also use dubious, and am a wood elf).

    I have a question. I know dw is getting really popular because weapon skills are proccing glyphs now. I understand rending is allowing glyps to proc on cool down
    A) does this mean infused off hand may be bis again?
    b) Would it be better for us to start dpsing on dw to make full use of the glyphs procs on cool down?
    c) would dpsing on dw to take advantage of glyph on cd be better then dps ing on 2h to get 30% regen for 10 seconds?

    let me know your thoughts!

    Infused off hand was BiS because it was also buffing the main hand, it's not like that anymore.

    I'd still run infused off hand.
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  • Rake
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    post templar build next pls
  • Grimlok_S
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    Axes and spriggans sinergize v gud
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  • leepalmer95
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    Grimlok_S wrote: »
    Axes and spriggans sinergize v gud

    Its good that they're not on the same bar.

    Spriggan is active on 2h bar, master axes are back bar.
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  • leepalmer95
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    KingLogix wrote: »
    This sounds interesting! I run Willows heavy rn/TK/master dw/spriggans front bar, and have 2200 non pot regen with all WD glyphs(i also use dubious, and am a wood elf).

    I have a question. I know dw is getting really popular because weapon skills are proccing glyphs now. I understand rending is allowing glyps to proc on cool down
    A) does this mean infused off hand may be bis again?
    b) Would it be better for us to start dpsing on dw to make full use of the glyphs procs on cool down?
    c) would dpsing on dw to take advantage of glyph on cd be better then dps ing on 2h to get 30% regen for 10 seconds?

    let me know your thoughts!

    I always used an infused berserk enchant anyway.

    I used to main dw before anyway because of steel tornado, double enchant, bleed + sword etc.. but now you can just use rending and get procs when your not on that bar. I feel like the extra regen + 10% extra dmg after a heavy attack is too good to pass up, it helps a lot with sustain as well.

    The cooldown is every 2s and rending procs every 2s. I don't believe it procs both glyphs but your lights can proc the other one and i'm thinking of using blade cloak over double take to proc it as well. Should be able to afford as it the stamina glyph is giving 400 every 2s basically.

    Personally why i've gone 2h main is to use master dw which is very strong and still get a 5 piece dmg set on my main bar. You can main dw if you want but then you'd have to give up a master dw or a 5 piece dps set.
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