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buff magwarden
LeagueTroll
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Srsly pay to lose class is not reasonable.
Magwarden only does decent dmg with bear, it is not reliable in real pve and in pvp is just terrible.
Buff warden zos, my suggestion is change ice shard duration to 8 second and keep total dmg the same (so 50% dps buff).
And change swarm from 10 second to 8 second and keep total dmg the same.
Only buff netch will not make mag warden relevant. and 8/10/12 sec dots is just hard to play.
Magwarden only does decent dmg with bear, it is not reliable in real pve and in pvp is just terrible.
Buff warden zos, my suggestion is change ice shard duration to 8 second and keep total dmg the same (so 50% dps buff).
And change swarm from 10 second to 8 second and keep total dmg the same.
Only buff netch will not make mag warden relevant. and 8/10/12 sec dots is just hard to play.
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Nerouyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭LeagueTroll wrote: »it is not reliable in real pve
Be serious. Every class is reliable in pve.
My magwarden roflstomps through content - including group delves - effectively naked. I often don't bother to repair my equipment because everything dies before it gets close enough to hit me. World bosses and dungeons are the only content I repair for.
Same was true for other classes when I played them, but easier for sorcs and wardens since pets draw aggro and can casually take hits from boss mobs.2 -
brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭They don't know how to buff Magicka Warden without overbuffing Stamina Warden.6 -
LeHarrt91✭✭✭✭✭
✭brandonv516 wrote: »They don't know how to buff Magicka Warden without overbuffing Stamina Warden.
Ice, and Piercing Cold Passive. and Swarm. they are all Magden specific.
PS NA
Have played all classes.
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brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭brandonv516 wrote: »They don't know how to buff Magicka Warden without overbuffing Stamina Warden.
Ice, and Piercing Cold Passive. and Swarm. they are all Magden specific.
Seems so easy then.0 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭brandonv516 wrote: »They don't know how to buff Magicka Warden without overbuffing Stamina Warden.
It's very easy. There are stamina and magicka morphs of every ability. Buff the magicka variety.Edited by MLGProPlayer on October 17, 2018 5:04AM3 -
LeHarrt91✭✭✭✭✭
✭brandonv516 wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »They don't know how to buff Magicka Warden without overbuffing Stamina Warden.
Ice, and Piercing Cold Passive. and Swarm. they are all Magden specific.
Seems so easy then.
All MagDen needs is a few minor tweaks to skills and passive and it will be in a good spot.PS NA
Have played all classes.
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Nerouyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »
That's exactly how you gauge PvE effectiveness.
Group delves are as the name suggests, group PvE content.
If I roflstomp through group PvE content, obviously solo PvE content is laughably easy. Enemies practically melt when I sneeze.2 -
AlienatedGoat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭That's exactly how you gauge PvE effectiveness.
No. It's not.
I doubt any serious PvE'r would refer to delves as "group PvE". Not even in Craglorn - it's laughably easy. "Group PvE" is commonly known to refer to instanced group activities like dungeons and trials.
The proper gauge for testing PvE effectiveness for individual classes is on target dummies, and in trials, preferably vet. Dummies provide a common baseline for simple comparison, and trials are used for testing under live conditions.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭OP is right btw. Magden needs serious work.
Magden is still the worst performing DPS class in the game and has been consistently so for nearly a year and a half - since its release.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa2 -
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✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »
That's exactly how you gauge PvE effectiveness.
Group delves are as the name suggests, group PvE content.
If I roflstomp through group PvE content, obviously solo PvE content is laughably easy. Enemies practically melt when I sneeze.
I bet you wear 11 pieces of rattlecageEdited by AbysmalGhul on October 17, 2018 9:04AM8 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Magden is fine in pvp.
All it needs really is a decent cc but even then it's still a very strong class.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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LeagueTroll✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Magden is fine in pvp.
All it needs really is a decent cc but even then it's still a very strong class.
magden has a good cc, magden has no dmg3 -
Zardayne✭✭✭✭✭brandonv516 wrote: »They don't know how to buff Magicka Warden without overbuffing Stamina Warden.
Swarm. That's the key IMO. It's magic damage and will not benefit Stamden. Remove the damn double cast crap, go back to reduced cost, and put in something similar to Bow's poison injection so it ramps up damage as the target drops its health.0 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No buffs with Murkmire. To be expected since ZOS didn't touch them after the first (misguided) balance pass. Still the worst DPS class by a country mile.
The only positive is that the bear can't die in dungeons and trials anymore.Edited by MLGProPlayer on October 23, 2018 2:34AM1 -
angeleda✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »
That's exactly how you gauge PvE effectiveness.
Group delves are as the name suggests, group PvE content.
If I roflstomp through group PvE content, obviously solo PvE content is laughably easy. Enemies practically melt when I sneeze.
LOL are you really "measuring" Magwarden's effectiveness thru world bosses and group delves?!?!?!?!? XD HAHAHAHAH
BE REAL!5 -
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✭Swarm needs to be adjusted.
Fetcher Infections double cast is annoy/ boring. Each cast should be worth the cost. Growing should grow per 1 or 2 seconds as most trash mobs are dead within 10 seconds. Also giving this skill a synergy would be nice.
And another ice dps skill would be good.
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Have played all classes.
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ESO_Nightingale✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Op is right but those buffs that they suggest are not what we need.PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX
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ESO_Nightingale✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭brandonv516 wrote: »They don't know how to buff Magicka Warden without overbuffing Stamina Warden.
Swarm. That's the key IMO. It's magic damage and will not benefit Stamden. Remove the damn double cast crap, go back to reduced cost, and put in something similar to Bow's poison injection so it ramps up damage as the target drops its health.
This is what the entire magden population wants. I wouldn't say its the only key though.PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX
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✭✭✭Rework that disaster of a skill - frozen gate.
No one uses this utter crap and when they try to its WAY too situational.
Winter's embrace is where you buff magicka Wardens and give them so good reliable frost damage skills2 -
DanteYoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Agreed this is the first game i've ever paid to lose in as well...Rework that disaster of a skill - frozen gate.
No one uses this utter crap and when they try to its WAY too situational.
Winter's embrace is where you buff magicka Wardens and give them so good reliable frost damage skills
And those useless flies skills, and half the others.. The healing line that isn't as "good" as resto could be overhauled as well..
Pointless class is pointless..Edited by DanteYoda on October 23, 2018 5:45AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »No buffs with Murkmire. To be expected since ZOS didn't touch them after the first (misguided) balance pass. Still the worst DPS class by a country mile.
The only positive is that the bear can't die in dungeons and trials anymore.
No buffs at all? Weird.
Maybe they are overshadowed by the "1 step forward & 2 steps backward" type of nerfs that we got on Swarm and Bear, as well as them butchering Falcon's Swiftness + morphsWinter's embrace is where you buff magicka Wardens and give them so good reliable frost damage skills
Smth that's been boggling my mind is that both DK and Temp had their ground placed DoTs improved, yet the Warden's Winter's Revenge got ignored."Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So the bear can't even be used for questing anymore, let alone something tougher like vMA or world bosses: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/442051/pets-are-bugged-in-overland-vma-as-of-murkmire-no-resistance#latestEdited by MLGProPlayer on October 23, 2018 6:50AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »
That's exactly how you gauge PvE effectiveness.
Group delves are as the name suggests, group PvE content.
If I roflstomp through group PvE content, obviously solo PvE content is laughably easy. Enemies practically melt when I sneeze.
When you say group delves do you mean dungeons? Because I can't tell any difference in difficulty between delves and the outside.0 -
ESO_Nightingale✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rework that disaster of a skill - frozen gate.
No one uses this utter crap and when they try to its WAY too situational.
Winter's embrace is where you buff magicka Wardens and give them so good reliable frost damage skills
The latter is the way to go. But frozen gate is generally alright. The warden discord members want the enemy pull to be removed from frozen retreat but for the synergy to stay, damage to be buffed and maybe for the immobilise to turned into a stun.Edited by ESO_Nightingale on October 23, 2018 7:43AMPvE Frost Warden Main and teacher. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX
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