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buff magwarden

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LeagueTroll
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Srsly pay to lose class is not reasonable.
Magwarden only does decent dmg with bear, it is not reliable in real pve and in pvp is just terrible.
Buff warden zos, my suggestion is change ice shard duration to 8 second and keep total dmg the same (so 50% dps buff).
And change swarm from 10 second to 8 second and keep total dmg the same.
Only buff netch will not make mag warden relevant. and 8/10/12 sec dots is just hard to play.
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  • Nerouyn
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    LeagueTroll wrote: »
    it is not reliable in real pve

    Be serious. Every class is reliable in pve.

    My magwarden roflstomps through content - including group delves - effectively naked. I often don't bother to repair my equipment because everything dies before it gets close enough to hit me. World bosses and dungeons are the only content I repair for.

    Same was true for other classes when I played them, but easier for sorcs and wardens since pets draw aggro and can casually take hits from boss mobs.
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  • LeHarrt91
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    brandonv516 wrote: »
    They don't know how to buff Magicka Warden without overbuffing Stamina Warden.

    Ice, and Piercing Cold Passive. and Swarm. they are all Magden specific.
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  • brandonv516
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    LeHarrt91 wrote: »
    brandonv516 wrote: »
    They don't know how to buff Magicka Warden without overbuffing Stamina Warden.

    Ice, and Piercing Cold Passive. and Swarm. they are all Magden specific.

    Seems so easy then.
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    brandonv516 wrote: »
    They don't know how to buff Magicka Warden without overbuffing Stamina Warden.

    It's very easy. There are stamina and magicka morphs of every ability. Buff the magicka variety.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on October 17, 2018 5:04AM
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  • Nerouyn
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    MLGProPlayer wrote: »
    Nerouyn wrote: »
    My magwarden roflstomps through content - including group delves -

    Lol

    That's not how you gauge PvE effectiveness.

    That's exactly how you gauge PvE effectiveness.

    Group delves are as the name suggests, group PvE content.

    If I roflstomp through group PvE content, obviously solo PvE content is laughably easy. Enemies practically melt when I sneeze.
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  • AlienatedGoat
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    Nerouyn wrote: »
    That's exactly how you gauge PvE effectiveness.

    No. It's not.

    I doubt any serious PvE'r would refer to delves as "group PvE". Not even in Craglorn - it's laughably easy. "Group PvE" is commonly known to refer to instanced group activities like dungeons and trials.

    The proper gauge for testing PvE effectiveness for individual classes is on target dummies, and in trials, preferably vet. Dummies provide a common baseline for simple comparison, and trials are used for testing under live conditions.
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  • AlienatedGoat
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    OP is right btw. Magden needs serious work.

    Magden is still the worst performing DPS class in the game and has been consistently so for nearly a year and a half - since its release.
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  • leepalmer95
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    Magden is fine in pvp.

    All it needs really is a decent cc but even then it's still a very strong class.
    PS4 EU DC

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    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.

    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
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  • LeagueTroll
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    leepalmer95 wrote: »
    Magden is fine in pvp.

    All it needs really is a decent cc but even then it's still a very strong class.

    magden has a good cc, magden has no dmg
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    brandonv516 wrote: »
    They don't know how to buff Magicka Warden without overbuffing Stamina Warden.

    Swarm. That's the key IMO. It's magic damage and will not benefit Stamden. Remove the damn double cast crap, go back to reduced cost, and put in something similar to Bow's poison injection so it ramps up damage as the target drops its health.
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    No buffs with Murkmire. To be expected since ZOS didn't touch them after the first (misguided) balance pass. Still the worst DPS class by a country mile.

    The only positive is that the bear can't die in dungeons and trials anymore.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on October 23, 2018 2:34AM
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  • LeHarrt91
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    Swarm needs to be adjusted.
    Fetcher Infections double cast is annoy/ boring. Each cast should be worth the cost. Growing should grow per 1 or 2 seconds as most trash mobs are dead within 10 seconds. Also giving this skill a synergy would be nice.

    And another ice dps skill would be good.



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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Op is right but those buffs that they suggest are not what we need.
    Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX

    Let's make frost better for everyone!

    Frost Community Rework Ideas Cross-list:

    1: Arctic Blast 4.0 (AB4.0) (Remove healing, increase duration, add line moving aoe tornado that damages and stuns)

    2: Glacial Presence Buff (+10% crit damage to chilled enemies) = Added with update 25!

    3: Frost Staff Critical Damage Buff = Added with update 28!

    Warden Class Rework Roadmap List:
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fWoOX0S4yrR_KFZcjBAvHvR2K6T__6LrIGiaERV8NQA/edit?usp=sharing

    Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVcK3MaRo-ur-vcsamK6E7g?view_as=subscriber
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Zardayne wrote: »
    brandonv516 wrote: »
    They don't know how to buff Magicka Warden without overbuffing Stamina Warden.

    Swarm. That's the key IMO. It's magic damage and will not benefit Stamden. Remove the damn double cast crap, go back to reduced cost, and put in something similar to Bow's poison injection so it ramps up damage as the target drops its health.

    This is what the entire magden population wants. I wouldn't say its the only key though.
    Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX

    Let's make frost better for everyone!

    Frost Community Rework Ideas Cross-list:

    1: Arctic Blast 4.0 (AB4.0) (Remove healing, increase duration, add line moving aoe tornado that damages and stuns)

    2: Glacial Presence Buff (+10% crit damage to chilled enemies) = Added with update 25!

    3: Frost Staff Critical Damage Buff = Added with update 28!

    Warden Class Rework Roadmap List:
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fWoOX0S4yrR_KFZcjBAvHvR2K6T__6LrIGiaERV8NQA/edit?usp=sharing

    Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVcK3MaRo-ur-vcsamK6E7g?view_as=subscriber
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  • mb10
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    Rework that disaster of a skill - frozen gate.

    No one uses this utter crap and when they try to its WAY too situational.

    Winter's embrace is where you buff magicka Wardens and give them so good reliable frost damage skills

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  • DanteYoda
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    Agreed this is the first game i've ever paid to lose in as well...

    mb10 wrote: »
    Rework that disaster of a skill - frozen gate.

    No one uses this utter crap and when they try to its WAY too situational.

    Winter's embrace is where you buff magicka Wardens and give them so good reliable frost damage skills

    And those useless flies skills, and half the others.. The healing line that isn't as "good" as resto could be overhauled as well..

    Pointless class is pointless..
    Edited by DanteYoda on October 23, 2018 5:45AM
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  • Tryxus
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    MLGProPlayer wrote: »
    No buffs with Murkmire. To be expected since ZOS didn't touch them after the first (misguided) balance pass. Still the worst DPS class by a country mile.

    The only positive is that the bear can't die in dungeons and trials anymore.

    No buffs at all? Weird.

    Maybe they are overshadowed by the "1 step forward & 2 steps backward" type of nerfs that we got on Swarm and Bear, as well as them butchering Falcon's Swiftness + morphs
    mb10 wrote: »
    Winter's embrace is where you buff magicka Wardens and give them so good reliable frost damage skills

    Smth that's been boggling my mind is that both DK and Temp had their ground placed DoTs improved, yet the Warden's Winter's Revenge got ignored.
    "In the Storyteller's name, I stand upon the bones of the world. I drink in the promise and power of nature's law, and breathe out my thanks."
    Tryxus - Magicka Warden - PC/EU/DC
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    So the bear can't even be used for questing anymore, let alone something tougher like vMA or world bosses: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/442051/pets-are-bugged-in-overland-vma-as-of-murkmire-no-resistance#latest
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on October 23, 2018 6:50AM
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  • Jeremy
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    Nerouyn wrote: »
    MLGProPlayer wrote: »
    Nerouyn wrote: »
    My magwarden roflstomps through content - including group delves -

    Lol

    That's not how you gauge PvE effectiveness.

    That's exactly how you gauge PvE effectiveness.

    Group delves are as the name suggests, group PvE content.

    If I roflstomp through group PvE content, obviously solo PvE content is laughably easy. Enemies practically melt when I sneeze.

    When you say group delves do you mean dungeons? Because I can't tell any difference in difficulty between delves and the outside.
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    mb10 wrote: »
    Rework that disaster of a skill - frozen gate.

    No one uses this utter crap and when they try to its WAY too situational.

    Winter's embrace is where you buff magicka Wardens and give them so good reliable frost damage skills

    The latter is the way to go. But frozen gate is generally alright. The warden discord members want the enemy pull to be removed from frozen retreat but for the synergy to stay, damage to be buffed and maybe for the immobilise to turned into a stun.
    Edited by ESO_Nightingale on October 23, 2018 7:43AM
    Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX

    Let's make frost better for everyone!

    Frost Community Rework Ideas Cross-list:

    1: Arctic Blast 4.0 (AB4.0) (Remove healing, increase duration, add line moving aoe tornado that damages and stuns)

    2: Glacial Presence Buff (+10% crit damage to chilled enemies) = Added with update 25!

    3: Frost Staff Critical Damage Buff = Added with update 28!

    Warden Class Rework Roadmap List:
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fWoOX0S4yrR_KFZcjBAvHvR2K6T__6LrIGiaERV8NQA/edit?usp=sharing

    Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVcK3MaRo-ur-vcsamK6E7g?view_as=subscriber
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