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please let us hide shoulders

parpin
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customization is very important and having more option is good for the game, currently you can only hide helmet/head item and that is about it, there are many outfits and armors in game that ruined by their big ugly shoulders, if we could hide shoulders just like helmet/head item, it would be great and i know you can change shoulders on armor to something smaller but still if we could hid it, it would give a lot of outfits and armor a better look,please devs give us more customization options and let us hide shoulders please.
Edited by parpin on October 16, 2018 1:50PM
  • qbit
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    I think crown store outfits will hide your shoulders as needed. I could be wrong. Basing this on people dressed up like they’re in modern night club atire running around. Assumed they got those outfits from the crown store.
  • DMuehlhausen
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    qbit wrote: »
    I think crown store outfits will hide your shoulders as needed. I could be wrong. Basing this on people dressed up like they’re in modern night club atire running around. Assumed they got those outfits from the crown store.

    They do, but the OP is correct. There is no reason why we can't hid the shoulders.

    To a point you can using small shoulder pieces in the Outfit system, but you should be able to fully remove them.

    That being said I don't think you should be able to hide all pieces, cause you know, specially in Cyrodil, you would have armies of naked jumping space bar bunnies everything. I think you should be limited to hiding maybe 4 pieces, maybe maybe 5. I'd love to have a 2 Hand DK that doesn't have a Chest Piece showing but like a 1 side shoulder graphic or something one day.
  • ghastley
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    The costumes are a reasonable guide for what they should be doing with outfits. If a a male character can wear a bare-chested costume, they should be able to do the same with an outfit, and so on. The ladies would like to show some leg, and we all want to hide shoulder pieces.

    I'd like some taller boots, like you get in some of the Morrowind costumes, too, and the ability to have single shoulders (as in some monster sets) could be extended to single-arm - i.e. Manica. But that's getting a bit further from what's likely.

    We know that a generic slot hide has been worked on. We want to see it happen. And that idea of limiting how many slots can be hidden is a good one.
  • shimm
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    Try light Akaviri shoulders... almost looks like none...
  • GreenHere
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    Or at least make it to where they don't float 3 to 476 inches off your character's actual shoulder, huh?

    Hiding them altogether would be the best option, though. Please, ZOS?
  • jcm2606
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    qbit wrote: »
    I think crown store outfits will hide your shoulders as needed. I could be wrong. Basing this on people dressed up like they’re in modern night club atire running around. Assumed they got those outfits from the crown store.

    They do, but the OP is correct. There is no reason why we can't hid the shoulders.

    To a point you can using small shoulder pieces in the Outfit system, but you should be able to fully remove them.

    That being said I don't think you should be able to hide all pieces, cause you know, specially in Cyrodil, you would have armies of naked jumping space bar bunnies everything. I think you should be limited to hiding maybe 4 pieces, maybe maybe 5. I'd love to have a 2 Hand DK that doesn't have a Chest Piece showing but like a 1 side shoulder graphic or something one day.

    The Nordic Bathers Towel costume basically allows for that already.
  • EvilAutoTech
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    qbit wrote: »
    I think crown store outfits will hide your shoulders as needed. I could be wrong. Basing this on people dressed up like they’re in modern night club atire running around. Assumed they got those outfits from the crown store.



    in Cyrodil, you would have armies of naked jumping space bar bunnies everything.

    Yes please, and hidden weapons. Huge zergs of nearly naked fisticuffs. I would love to participate in that.
  • Synthwavius
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    I would really love this. Most if not all motifs look the best without shoulders and most shoulders look out of place
  • MartiniDaniels
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    There are several shoulders that nicely meld with other armors and are very small so female char still looks womanly.. you can check what fits you in outfit station and then buy them in guildstore, wut's the problem?
    And for male chat there is zero problems with shoulders, there are tons good looking one.
  • MonkLoHan
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    I am on the fence on this one. I understand the hide helmet/head thing because we spend a good deal of time in character creation to get our characters just right so we'd like to see them. However, with the shoulders thing, its just cosmetic and doesnt really give any satisfaction of seeing your character. Its just complaining about the fashion/style.

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    Agreed. We have these super sleek, feminine outfit options, like the Fang Lair one, but we're stuck with weird looking shoulder projections that ruin the lines and make us look like line-backers.
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  • MooseKnuckles88
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    I wish hiding shoulders were an option
    Edited by MooseKnuckles88 on October 17, 2018 12:05AM
  • RoyalPink06
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    I think ZOS underestimates how important character appearance and customization is to a large part of the player base. Fixing floating and clipping issues with shoulders is a good start for those who like to see the shoulders, but we should be able to hide them if we want.
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  • spartaxoxo
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    qbit wrote: »
    I think crown store outfits will hide your shoulders as needed. I could be wrong. Basing this on people dressed up like they’re in modern night club atire running around. Assumed they got those outfits from the crown store.

    They do, but the OP is correct. There is no reason why we can't hid the shoulders.

    To a point you can using small shoulder pieces in the Outfit system, but you should be able to fully remove them.

    That being said I don't think you should be able to hide all pieces, cause you know, specially in Cyrodil, you would have armies of naked jumping space bar bunnies everything. I think you should be limited to hiding maybe 4 pieces, maybe maybe 5. I'd love to have a 2 Hand DK that doesn't have a Chest Piece showing but like a 1 side shoulder graphic or something one day.

    Honestly just make it so the person has to have pants or shirt, hiding one disables the option to hide the other.
  • albesca
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    Honestly just make it so the person has to have pants or shirt, hiding one disables the option to hide the other.

    We already have our fair share of streakers, I'm not sure that it would get much worse.

    Besides, we have very little way to show all the body markings available
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  • Kalik_Gold
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    What are the smallest shoulder outfit styles?
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    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

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    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
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  • MartiniDaniels
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    Kalik_Gold wrote: »
    What are the smallest shoulder outfit styles?

    Glass light epaulets looks good almost on anything. Abah's watch light looks good on leather, others you may check in outfit station, depends on chest armor style and clipping. Pyandonean heavy is small and just for one shoulder, worth considering too.
  • Pheefs
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    SHOES TOO!

    shoulders and shoes and belts, for the love of mara!
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  • Pheefs
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    Kalik_Gold wrote: »
    What are the smallest shoulder outfit styles?
    for OUTFITS I also like 'breton tier 1' and 'high elf tier1' and 'mercenary medium'
    check in outfit station, depends on chest armor style and clipping.
    THIS! play around with your characters preferred chest pieces in the outfit preview and test everything.

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  • OFFL1MIT
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    Yes! Some sets (like stormfist) makes me throw up . My armour wouldnt look with big shoe on my shoulder. deffo needed
  • GabiAlex
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    I posted before about how much I hate shoulders so yes, please let hide them as we do with the helmet.
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  • GreenHere
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    OFFL1MIT wrote: »
    Yes! Some sets (like stormfist) makes me throw up . My armour wouldnt look with big shoe on my shoulder. deffo needed

    @OFFL1MIT You are aware that you can change the shoulder to look like any of the other styles you know, yes? In the Outfit system?

    This thread is asking to have an option to hide them completely, but it sounds as if you might not know about the existing feature to change the way any piece looks.
  • Morgha_Kul
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    Actually, I'd like to be able to hide many parts of the character's outfit. My Dunmer Sorcerer, for example, wears a robe with flared cuffs. My preference would be for him to have bare hands... but I can't DO that.

    Let us hide each of the pieces as we desire.
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  • GreenHere
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    Morgha_Kul wrote: »
    Actually, I'd like to be able to hide many parts of the character's outfit. My Dunmer Sorcerer, for example, wears a robe with flared cuffs. My preference would be for him to have bare hands... but I can't DO that.

    Let us hide each of the pieces as we desire.

    Fwiw, there are styles that allow you to get pretty close to bare-handed look. Mazzatun Gloves are just a simple wristband, as an example. The prisoner shackles are... well, prisoner shackles; no hand covering there.

    @Morgha_Kul
    Edited by GreenHere on October 16, 2018 10:38PM
  • ProfessorKittyhawk
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    I'd like to be able to hide any piece you want. Heck, should be able to hide everything if we wanna run naked while still getting the benefits of the armor. Would make an interesting spectacle.

    Just implement this feature into the outfit system. We have the option to hide or not have a head piece in the outfit system. Same should work for everything else. I have characters whose bodies I wanna look at while I play. I didn't make them dead sexy just to cover them with gear. And the few styles that show some skin still cover up a bit too much for my liking. So just give us the bloody option to hide whatever pieces we want already. Gosh.
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    Just, let us hide whatever we want, please.

    I know, there's going to be people running around without gear... but, still... it doesn't really matter, and even if characters are running around naked, that happens now, rarely.

    So, it'd be nice to be able to pick which parts are visible on our character.
    Edited by starkerealm on October 17, 2018 12:28AM
  • Nyladreas
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    qbit wrote: »
    I think crown store outfits will hide your shoulders as needed. I could be wrong. Basing this on people dressed up like they’re in modern night club atire running around. Assumed they got those outfits from the crown store.

    They do, but the OP is correct. There is no reason why we can't hid the shoulders.

    To a point you can using small shoulder pieces in the Outfit system, but you should be able to fully remove them.

    That being said I don't think you should be able to hide all pieces, cause you know, specially in Cyrodil, you would have armies of naked jumping space bar bunnies everything. I think you should be limited to hiding maybe 4 pieces, maybe maybe 5. I'd love to have a 2 Hand DK that doesn't have a Chest Piece showing but like a 1 side shoulder graphic or something one day.

    If you allow general number of pieces instead of specific slots... Well... Let's just say Tamriel would suddenly have a lot of topless and bottomless men and women... Especially the women.
    Edited by Nyladreas on October 17, 2018 12:36AM
  • TheShadowScout
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    As I once said:
    The most reasonable thing we can expect...
    ...is for them to sell "invisible armor" motiv pages in the crown store.

    I mean, the suits in charge certainly won't send a code-jockey to spend their paid time programming the hide function for all outfit slots without wanting to see some profit, right?

    But selling people the option... that would appeal to their shriveled greedy little hearts, right? :p;)

    As for the lore... well, I already said it. "Invisible Armor". Enchanting your sturdy armor with an invisibility spell, to lure your foe into a false sense of security...
    I mean, look at this guy:
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    kind of find it funny they make styles that don't have much on the shoulders, as far as chest pieces are concerned.Then they go and ruin it by creating an absurd looking shoulder piece.
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    As I once said:
    The most reasonable thing we can expect...
    ...is for them to sell "invisible armor" motiv pages in the crown store.

    I mean, the suits in charge certainly won't send a code-jockey to spend their paid time programming the hide function for all outfit slots without wanting to see some profit, right?

    But selling people the option... that would appeal to their shriveled greedy little hearts, right? :p;)

    As for the lore... well, I already said it. "Invisible Armor". Enchanting your sturdy armor with an invisibility spell, to lure your foe into a false sense of security...
    I mean, look at this guy:
    Sai_Sahan.png

    Yeah, but I don't think that guy is wearing invisible armor. Sai is just so good with a blade he doesn't need chest protection.
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