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Are the Dwemer really gone?

AndrejLeo
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How much is actually known about the dwemer's disappearance? Could they of been transported to a different realm? What if there's others like the guy who survived by being in a different real?
  • Crumorn
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    A thousand theories of what could and could not have happened to the Dwemer exist.

    I believe in the theory they were trying to animate the Numidium and bring it to life but due to the War of the Red Kagrenac became rushed and abruptly without the proper research or preparations attempted the ritual.
    The interesting thing is that he succeed and did it right however due to Yagrum Bagarn not being in the proper plane of existence and the ritual requiring all Dwemer it failed. The Dwemer wanted to acend to gods, and Kagrenac did that for them placing them inside the very god they worshiped and created, but without the last Dwemer Yagrum being present it failed and when he returned the ritual was long passed and the Dwemer gone.

    As a quote from Sotha Sil
    "You wonder where the Dwemer have gone? Perhaps better to wonder why one remains."

  • VaranisArano
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    You should probably review the lore from TES III Morrowind, wherein the Archmage of the Mages Guild send you on a quest to discover the answer to the disappearance of the Dwemer.

    He's actually setting you up to fail and embarrass yourself, but unfortunately for him, you do find out an answer (of sorts) and if you want to, eventually duel him and take his job.

    Quest:
    https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Mystery_of_the_Dwarves

    Other than Arniel Gane's attempt in Skyrim to recreate the disappearance of the Dwemer with a depowered Keening, the games really don't expand much on what you found in Morrowind, leaving the Dwemer as a mystery.

    Personally, I like it staying a mystery.
  • MythicEmperor
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    The Dwemer likely became the skin of the Numidium. Technically, they exist, just in a morbid way. They were at the very least bound to it somehow, just as Arniel was bound to the Dragonborn via his shade.
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  • newtinmpls
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    I can't answer that unless you have seen all the episodes of Babylon 5
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  • Bruccius
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    There are a handful of theories, all with their own facts and flaws to support and weaken them.

    I personally believe the Dwemer burned to death in an instant following the striking of the heart. My evidence for this is the ancient Dwemer ruin under Mournhold in TES III: Tribunal, where you can find ash piles on Dwemer beds, armor, stools, benches, books, and potions.
  • BuddyAces
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    Crumorn wrote: »
    A thousand theories of what could and could not have happened to the Dwemer exist.

    I believe in the theory they were trying to animate the Numidium and bring it to life but due to the War of the Red Kagrenac became rushed and abruptly without the proper research or preparations attempted the ritual.
    The interesting thing is that he succeed and did it right however due to Yagrum Bagarn not being in the proper plane of existence and the ritual requiring all Dwemer it failed. The Dwemer wanted to acend to gods, and Kagrenac did that for them placing them inside the very god they worshiped and created, but without the last Dwemer Yagrum being present it failed and when he returned the ritual was long passed and the Dwemer gone.

    As a quote from Sotha Sil
    "You wonder where the Dwemer have gone? Perhaps better to wonder why one remains."

    It's obvious, the last one murdered all the rest to become the One.
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  • Gilvoth
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    several theories exist:

    ashes in the Dwemer ruins of Bamz-Amschend in mournhold were discovered, where numerous piles of ashes were present next to weapons and armor, on chairs, and in beds, suggesting the dwemer bodies there were suddenly reduced to ash in some way.

    one theory exists claiming that their sudden extinction was caused by their reversal of the usual processes involved in the Earth Bones, the laws of nature.

    yet another theory suggests that, in the last moments before they disappeared, Lord kagrenac used The Calling to summon all of the Dwemer people and rally them to carry out his plans to transcend the mortal plane.

    It appears all members of the Dwemer race were simply removed from the world. (accept one in morrowind)
    but, as far as we can prove right now, currently, the answer to fact is still "no, they are not gone, they are in another dimension."
    (another plane of existence)

  • Gilvoth
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    there is a dwemer spirit within the halls of an underground cave that was discovered, but he only speaks about his past and something about dwemer oil of somekind, there was no dialog option to go further.

  • lukastef
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    Bruccius wrote: »
    There are a handful of theories, all with their own facts and flaws to support and weaken them.

    I personally believe the Dwemer burned to death in an instant following the striking of the heart. My evidence for this is the ancient Dwemer ruin under Mournhold in TES III: Tribunal, where you can find ash piles on Dwemer beds, armor, stools, benches, books, and potions.

    If this theory is true then you would find more ash in other dwemer ruins and yet there isnt any ash in other ruins.
  • ArchMikem
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    Crumorn wrote: »
    A thousand theories of what could and could not have happened to the Dwemer exist.

    I believe in the theory they were trying to animate the Numidium and bring it to life but due to the War of the Red Kagrenac became rushed and abruptly without the proper research or preparations attempted the ritual.
    The interesting thing is that he succeed and did it right however due to Yagrum Bagarn not being in the proper plane of existence and the ritual requiring all Dwemer it failed. The Dwemer wanted to acend to gods, and Kagrenac did that for them placing them inside the very god they worshiped and created, but without the last Dwemer Yagrum being present it failed and when he returned the ritual was long passed and the Dwemer gone.

    As a quote from Sotha Sil
    "You wonder where the Dwemer have gone? Perhaps better to wonder why one remains."

    The Numidium is one giant Soul Gem? Or is it the Heart that acts as one, it would seem more likely. Any kind of powerful magical crystal almost ALWAYS draws that power from Souls.

    This kinda seems like the Great Journey lie in Halo. The Covenant were misled into believing the galactic super weapons were gateways to ascension. Kagrenac may have misled the Dwemer into believing the Numidium was their Ascension, when really all they were ended up being batteries for the thing.
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  • Bruccius
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    lukastef wrote: »
    Bruccius wrote: »
    There are a handful of theories, all with their own facts and flaws to support and weaken them.

    I personally believe the Dwemer burned to death in an instant following the striking of the heart. My evidence for this is the ancient Dwemer ruin under Mournhold in TES III: Tribunal, where you can find ash piles on Dwemer beds, armor, stools, benches, books, and potions.

    If this theory is true then you would find more ash in other dwemer ruins and yet there isnt any ash in other ruins.

    Not quite, as the Dwemer ruin underneath Mournhold was sealed off for eras.

    The other Dwemer ruins weren't.
    Edited by Bruccius on October 3, 2018 4:28PM
  • dangutang
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    Tons of cool theories out there which you can find with a bit of googling. My favorite is that the dwemer's souls were already contained within the numidium (something about dwemer materials being resistant against aging/decay because they were infused with dwemer souls, so this was presumably the case with the numidium before the events at red mountain), and that the numidium was made to be a sort of mold for oversouls, allowing the dwemer to turn their individual souls into an oversoul and take one step in ascending the creation gradient. So, could be that they succeeded in this and left mundus.
  • Tucker3711
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    My theory is that they were bored, built a spaceship and went to the Moon.
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  • Darkmage1337
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