Wrong nerf to expedition and swift shouldn't have been nerfed at all. What we need was for major expedition to give 20% and minor to give 5%. Swift is only useful if it's above 7%, IMO. It's now worst in show.

3rd patch in a row that ZOS has nerfed my primary PVP build. I'm this close to cancelling.

No what you needed was for the targeting system to register hits properly in tune with what players do/see on their screen vs what is actually happening. Instead you got a broad reduction in overall achievable speed to make up for the issues with the hit reg/prediction system.

Way to quick.

Not enough thought.

Ruins some classes unique aspects warden and sorc.

Is less “fun”, I want to be slower and snared more often said no ESO player ever.

Rewards ball groups in PVP who can have dedicated rapids spammers making Cyrodil “less fun”

Takes something people enjoy and ruins it.

Doesn’t even in anyway address the major flaw that was exposed, which is an absolutely ass targeting system.

Introduced late in a test cycle where the class reps have been concentrated on resource and shielding changes.

I could bullet point about ten more things but I’m just tired and this is frustrating.

All and all I’m not a fan


EDIT:

Here is jut a random thought; why not cap moment speed based on armor type Medium can cap at 200%, light 175%, and heavy at 150%.
Instead of killing skills that partially define classes you can armor choice some uniqueness. (change the percentages based on balance)

or

Change the base speed cap to 100% and place base bonuses in the armor passives that can increase it up to 200 medium, 175 light, and 150 instead of homogenizing skills and play. (again change the percentages based balance)

Falcons Swiftness is now useless... congratulations zos you managed to completely ruin one of the few class skills still used by Magden

Actually, it is an awful direction, to make the game slower and slower. After reading the upcoming WHOLE mobility nerfs, which basically should affect only heavy armor builds abusing speed system crazily (the only problem is swift stacks with major expedition + 100% FM), I feel that I will loose a lot of options in itemization and build creation, like magplar or mageblade with 2H for good uptime of snare immunity. Even the note about pots nerfs makes me feel SAD: is bow should really be the ONLY reliable source of Major Expedition on medium armor? The mobility of some heavy armor builds is unbalanced, yes. But touching the medium and light is not the solution.
Do not make the game less fun to play, do not take away the huge variety of itemization and playstyles from players. Most of us love the game for its combat system and enjoyment, that we gain from good fights and theorycrafting between the battles.

BTW: The Major Expedition could be added to the Shuffle buff list. The medium armor is about mobility, not about RAW AoE REDUCTION (which is completely breaking the PVP balance between the classes). :P

Swift + FM was the real issue. You ended up with unsnare-able heavy armor stam builds that take little damage whatsoever and are impossible to target. With the reduction in swift's bonus in addition to the halved FM duration, this issue should be more or less solved, and any build that STILL wants to run multiple swift and be unsnare-able will have to run much more sustain, and 3 swift to get near the same speed as previously available from two, sacrificing further damage. I'm not even looking at medium armor builds, because apart from perhaps stamsorc, no medium build could afford to run forward momentum and shuffle is a trash snare immunity that cannot be spammed.

Nerfing the sources of major expedition is a terrible idea. If the speed potions are reduced to 16s (seemingly zos's intention) there will be no point in running them. Since you NEED major expedition to succeed as a stambuild in pvp (any build that doesn't run heavy, bloodspawn, s&b, permablock), you will now be forced to run either quick cloak or bow. Two short term sources of major expedition that are impossible to effectively keep up, and were nerfed for no reason whatsoever with this PTS cycle. The second major expedition drops with multiple targets attacking you, you are going to be snared to a complete inability to move, and you will die. There is no way to survive a meta with poor mobility for stam builds in today's eso without running an insane amount of resistances, health, etc, and these patch notes are quite literally forcing stam back into a heavy armor meta.

The only way to justify these major expedition nerfs is to finally make an adjustment to snares. There needs to be Major and minor snares. You shouldn't be able to have your movement speed reduced by 100+%.
SNARES STACK INDEFINITELY, AS ALMOST EVERY SNARE IS UNIQUE. YOU CAN ONLY STACK SO MUCH MOVEMENT SPEED, BUT THAT SPEED CAN BE HARD COUNTERED BY SNARES, WHICH ARE MORE READILY AVAILABLE.

If you won't nerf snares, do not nerf major expedition. It's simple really.

They could simply change the way movement speed is calculated so that there is either 1) a soft cap and/or 2) diminishing returns to stacking it. I'm not going to pretend to have a good, original solution. The person who made the following post seems to have some good ideas: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/438704/a-solution-to-swift#latest

And ZOS is more than capable of changing the formula instead of nerfing gear and abilities across the board. For example, in the past, they've made changes to the way critical damage and block cost are calculated. These formulaic changes introduced diminishing returns to people who stacked it, but didn't punish people who wanted a modest and consistent boost to these stats. The across-the-board speed nerfs are going to punish everyone--even those who just want a modest and consistent boost to speed.

TL:DR Instead, ZOS should find a way to punish those who abuse/stack speed buffs. Changing the way speed is calculated so that there are steeper diminishing returns seems like the best solution to me. Blunt, across-the-board speed nerfs are unfair.

At least we’ll finally stop getting all those “nerf Dreugh King Slayer set” threads.

Wait.

RIP Magdens

...or rather, all magicka builds