Nerf Dawnbreaker
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As a Werewolf enthusiast I think this ability needs adjustment. Dawnbreaker is it is too strong and effective of a tool against undead, werewolf and humans a like. This is what I would like to see.
1. Reduce the damage against the unafflicted. Buff the damage against Werewolf and Undead
2. Make sure and introduce stamina class based ults so all classes have a solution to replace dawnbreaker if they see fit.
3. Make weapon ults stay relevant.
Edited for Derek Zoolander's Center for Kids Who Can't Read Good
Happy Hunting,
Caius
Edited by Chrlynsch on September 28, 2018 2:05PM 1. Reduce the damage against the unafflicted. Buff the damage against Werewolf and Undead
2. Make sure and introduce stamina class based ults so all classes have a solution to replace dawnbreaker if they see fit.
3. Make weapon ults stay relevant.
Edited for Derek Zoolander's Center for Kids Who Can't Read Good
Happy Hunting,
Caius
Caius
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Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If they hadn't nerfed other ultimates there would be no reason for people to switch to DB.Beta tester November 201327 -
IlCanis_LupuslI✭✭✭✭✭What? You don't enjoy getting ultidumped by 3-4 DboS as a ww enthusiast?
I'm shocked (sarcasm alert)
Totally agree Dbos needs to be brought in line with other ults.... Slight damage reduction(on the direct damage component to reduce burst but increase the dot component. Reduce the direct damage bonus vs vampires and ww to 15%. But buff the dot component by 20% Make it dodgable and give it a 1second travel time like meteorEdited by IlCanis_LupuslI on September 29, 2018 6:27AM
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Mrsinister2✭✭✭✭✭It is pretty ridiculous that dawn breaker is used by a ton of mag toons because it's so good.11 -
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✭✭#Nerf DBS, its clearly an OP ultimate in PVP with very low cost. It deals huge amount of damage to Vamps & WWEdited by Lord_Eomer on September 27, 2018 5:10PM1 -
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✭✭Mrsinister2 wrote: »It is pretty ridiculous that dawn breaker is used by a ton of mag toons because it's so good.
After shield Nerf, will go for sword and board + 5 x Heavy Armor + DBSEdited by Lord_Eomer on September 27, 2018 5:11PM0 -
Galaen_Frost✭✭✭Let's nerf werewolves instead. Far too many builds rely on being an overused trashy romance novel trope and it's killing diversity. (Sarcasm, btw)
Haven't we learned any lessons about calling for nerfs?Wandering the lands of Tamriel, waiting for the hammer to drop.18 -
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✭✭Galaen_Frost wrote: »Let's nerf werewolves instead. Far too many builds rely on being an overused trashy romance novel trope and it's killing diversity. (Sarcasm, btw)
Haven't we learned any lessons about calling for nerfs?
One more nerf. That's all. I can quit anytime.8 -
Hurtfan✭✭✭✭✭I play a vampire in PvP and get wasted by dawn breaker from time to time. Can barely tell when it's being used on me due to the lag.
That said, no....more....nerfs....
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Imperial_Voice✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why are people so insistent on everything being nerfed? Why not ask for underperforming skills to be buffed?17 -
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✭Mag toon use it because thier ultis are poop. If you are ww and get hit with dawnbreaker that's on you. You chose a route that is all.Edited by Onefrkncrzypope on September 27, 2018 5:30PM-Immortal Redeemer-
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wenchmore420b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Enough with the nerfs!!
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✭✭Buff Meteor
Keep in mind stamina has the only real sources of counter-play for WW. Unless you are a sorc or templar using DBFlawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info4 -
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✭✭Reading comprehension is getting worse and worse...Caius
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codestripper✭✭✭✭✭Nerf everything, then buff it, then add a cast time....then add a cast time to that cast time then buff it again. this should achieve the desired result.Since everyone seems to be doing this,
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- Magicka Sorcerer (Pet) [Flawless Conqueror @ 565CP] - 582k
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- Magicka Classless [Flawless Conqueror @ 810CP] - 540k
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Finviuswe✭✭✭✭Well it's obvious DB is not overperforming, it is in check.
Why not mention the fact Leap is still overperforming?2 -
Hurtfan✭✭✭✭✭Reading comprehension is getting worse and worse...
Your thread title says nerf dawnbreaker and then your solution is to buff all the other alts, but nerf dawnbreaker against werewolves and vamps?
People can comprehend this post any way they want, it's convoluted...
Edited by Hurtfan on September 27, 2018 5:39PMFor the Pact!Keyboard not found, press any key to continue5 -
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✭✭Where are the buff calls to bring balance to the force?
You behave like buff calls will be rewarded a light saber decapitation.
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VirtualElizabeth✭✭✭✭I don't think it's Dawnbreaker that's the sole reason you are seeing it a lot on your death counter - it's how the player stacks it with the skills. I can tell you I have been hit numerous times by DB in 1 x 1 and I am vamp and it does little damage. But combine it with like Vampire's Bane and Purifying Light - BAM.
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✭✭✭"Someone is using a skill to beat me in PVP. Please take away the best Ultimate for not just a class of players, but all stamina players. But don't you even think of making any changes to my build."
I mean, you ran a Werewolf KNOWING Dawnbreaker is its kryptonite. Come on now.13 -
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Lol see there it is again...
What I said is keep the damage the same against werewolf and undead, but nerf the damage against all other targets.
If I get rocked by a dawnbreaker because I am a werewolf I am fine with it. But if it is still the BEST in slot against non afflicted we have an issue. The gap needs widened and alternative ults need to fall in the middle.
Ranking of damage against targets ranked by offensive Ults should look something like this.
1. DAWNBREAKER (Against Werewolf and undead)
2. All other offensive Ults
3. DAWNBREAKER
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✭✭El_Borracho wrote: »"Someone is using a skill to beat me in PVP. Please take away the best Ultimate for not just a class of players, but all stamina players. But don't you even think of making any changes to my build."
I mean, you ran a Werewolf KNOWING Dawnbreaker is its kryptonite. Come on now.
As superman I am not saying kryptonite should be nerfed because it is my weakness, I am saying that it should be less effective against every human in the game.Caius
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Yep... I hardly see any NB with Incap anymore... Sure from time to time there is some one using it but lets say that todayIf they hadn't nerfed other ultimates there would be no reason for people to switch to DB.
1 out of 10 NB is using it. In the past it was like 9 out of 10... same with other class ults.
PvP almost looks like Dawnbreaker & Eye of the Storm were only 2 ultimates available in game...1 -
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✭✭✭✭People cried out for an incap nerf.
Incap got nerfed!
More and more Nightblades start using dawnbreaker now!
People recognize that dawnbreaker really hurts.
People crying for a dawnbreaker nerf!PS5|EU9 -
ghwaite✭✭✭How about undo all nerfs and start again from the start
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.7 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The only nerf to DB I would be happy with would be if they increased the ult cost. I could live with that on my Stam DK and Stam Warden, they have ways of gaining ult pretty efficiently.Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!0 -
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✭✭Lmao, do you guys ever learn? Just because you die doesn't mean it needs to be nerfed. Of course if you are a vamp or ww it's gonna hurt. I mean look at the passives.
Increased cost I can get behind, but stop whining about crap that kills you.9
