One Bar Builds For Solo PvE? [Discussion]

Jack_Of_Shades · August 2018

Hi, I'm Jack Of Shades. I'm a notoriously solo player on eso. Have been for a long time. I've played pretty much every elder scrolls game. [Huge fan] So, I'm basically a single player type of guy.

On eso I don't do groups. I don't play PvP. I don't do dungeons that take more than myself to complete. So, naturally, I don't bar swap. And it got me thinking... are there players like me who have built one bar builds that they are proud of!?

Before I get started on this topic I just want to say: Please don't come in here saying myself, or others, are halving our utilities, not using all of our possible dps, dot, etc. I don't care. I'm not being competitive. Nor am I grouping. It's not harming people at all. It's just ME. It's solo only.

Anyway, wanted to talk to other fellow one bar users and see what you've come up with! Not to mention, I'm still looking for other awesome one bar builds for the Warden! I've actually found a couple videos on YouTube that show one bar builds. Hoping to see more!

Thanks for stopping by and reading, hope to discuss some awesome builds with other players!

-Jack

Tasear · August 2018

Today I sloted some gear I thought might work, then generated ultimate then light attacked my way to 20k DPS on werewolf. Changed glyphs and food then pushed up to 34k DPS. Want something simple yet powerful and fun then try werewolf.

Narvuntien · August 2018

The damage over time skills elemental blockage and endless hail do a quarter of your damage in PVE.

Which makes one bar unworkable for stamina characters it might be possible for some mag classes though.

I think I could make a MagDK one bar build that was good enough (but I lose inner light). Atm when I do a skeleton parse I switch elemental blockade to my front bar because with my 300 ping I lose so much dps weapon swaping.. but in dungeons and trials I want harness magicka on my front bar for reactive defense. (again because bar swapping is so slow)

MagDk
Engulfing flames, Burning embers, Whip, Elemental blockade, Flames of oblivion, Dragonknight standard.

You lose ash cloud, but with 300 ping I keep double casting it and nuking my mana pool I'd be kind of be happy not to have to deal with it and its clunky animation.

Jack_Of_Shades · August 2018

Tasear wrote: »

Today I sloted some gear I thought might work, then generated ultimate then light attacked my way to 20k DPS on werewolf. Changed glyphs and food then pushed up to 34k DPS. Want something simple yet powerful and fun then try werewolf.

I have done some werewolf builds, I do enjoy them. I recall having an orc werewolf. Wasn't too bad, I think I mostly did it for the speed. It was years ago. But I'll play around with a wolf build. Might be fun again! Thanks!

Narvuntien wrote: »

The damage over time skills elemental blockage and endless hail do a quarter of your damage in PVE.

Which makes one bar unworkable for stamina characters it might be possible for some mag classes though.

I think I could make a MagDK one bar build that was good enough (but I lose inner light). Atm when I do a skeleton parse I switch elemental blockade to my front bar because with my 300 ping I lose so much dps weapon swaping.. but in dungeons and trials I want harness magicka on my front bar for reactive defense. (again because bar swapping is so slow)

MagDk
Engulfing flames, Burning embers, Whip, Elemental blockade, Flames of oblivion, Dragonknight standard.

You lose ash cloud, but with 300 ping I keep double casting it and nuking my mana pool I'd be kind of be happy not to have to deal with it and its clunky animation.

I'm thinking with that build, definitely a dark elf. That much fire would be brutal with that race.

That's the attribute I'm having the most trouble with making a one bar set up. I've attempted to make my stamblade khajiit a one bar build. Not going so well. I've already crossed over into bow use with dw daggers. He has like one skill on the back bar for the bow. And then all class skills and some dw on front bar. Trying to consolidate it and make something worthwhile.

GreenHere · August 2018

Honestly I'm hesitant to post any effective one-bar setups for fear of them getting nerfed =( I can absolutely see ZOS putting the hammer down on sets that are considered "over performing" or whatever if people start getting good dps without getting arthritis in the process.

If you have the CP and the right gear you can easily break 20k dps on magicka builds with less than 5 skills, though. Not even using your ultimate. It's really helpful for people with internet issues, disabilities, or simply no interest in complicated rotations. I have a few characters and friends that do exactly this.

I wish it was more accepted by the community too; I've legitimately been shamed when randoms notice I'm not swapping bars at all. Even in groups where I was doing 50%+ of the group's dps.

Tasear · August 2018

Jack_Of_Shades wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Today I sloted some gear I thought might work, then generated ultimate then light attacked my way to 20k DPS on werewolf. Changed glyphs and food then pushed up to 34k DPS. Want something simple yet powerful and fun then try werewolf.

I have done some werewolf builds, I do enjoy them. I recall having an orc werewolf. Wasn't too bad, I think I mostly did it for the speed. It was years ago. But I'll play around with a wolf build. Might be fun again! Thanks!

Narvuntien wrote: »

The damage over time skills elemental blockage and endless hail do a quarter of your damage in PVE.

Which makes one bar unworkable for stamina characters it might be possible for some mag classes though.

I think I could make a MagDK one bar build that was good enough (but I lose inner light). Atm when I do a skeleton parse I switch elemental blockade to my front bar because with my 300 ping I lose so much dps weapon swaping.. but in dungeons and trials I want harness magicka on my front bar for reactive defense. (again because bar swapping is so slow)

MagDk
Engulfing flames, Burning embers, Whip, Elemental blockade, Flames of oblivion, Dragonknight standard.

You lose ash cloud, but with 300 ping I keep double casting it and nuking my mana pool I'd be kind of be happy not to have to deal with it and its clunky animation.

I'm thinking with that build, definitely a dark elf. That much fire would be brutal with that race.

That's the attribute I'm having the most trouble with making a one bar set up. I've attempted to make my stamblade khajiit a one bar build. Not going so well. I've already crossed over into bow use with dw daggers. He has like one skill on the back bar for the bow. And then all class skills and some dw on front bar. Trying to consolidate it and make something worthwhile.

They updated werewolves today it's so much easier and fun to play. The synergy actually works well now!

Hippie4927 · August 2018

I play a magplar using one bar. I use a lightning staff and slot blockade, BOL, crushing shock, blazing spears, and puncturing sweeps. I can solo all pve content except world bosses and group dungeons. My armor is 5 pc. Julianos and 5 pc. war maidens. If I were a better player, I might be able to solo some group dungeons and world bosses but I am not good enough.

Jack_Of_Shades · August 2018

GreenHere wrote: »

Honestly I'm hesitant to post any effective one-bar setups for fear of them getting nerfed =( I can absolutely see ZOS putting the hammer down on sets that are considered "over performing" or whatever if people start getting good dps without getting arthritis in the process.

If you have the CP and the right gear you can easily break 20k dps on magicka builds with less than 5 skills, though. Not even using your ultimate. It's really helpful for people with internet issues, disabilities, or simply no interest in complicated rotations. I have a few characters and friends that do exactly this.

I wish it was more accepted by the community too; I've legitimately been shamed when randoms notice I'm not swapping bars at all. Even in groups where I was doing 50%+ of the group's dps.

It's understandable. But zos should follow suit on Bethesda's idea of how elder scrolls games should be played: How you want. I remember reading the book in morrowind's case as a teen. And the teams words to the player resonated in me. It's awesome how they wanted me to play the game how I wanted.

I think it should be viable to one bar if you so choose. Maybe it won't be as good as two bars [or three with overload], but still, it should be a viable play option that people can use. I know more than a few people who never use the second bar. And that's perfectly fine!

I've seen the shaming you mentioned. It's uncalled for because, as long as you are not slowing them down or ruining their time, it should not matter. Ya know? Especially when they do it to a solo pve player. That always got me. But anyway, I agree. Thanks for letting me know I'm not the only one.

Jack_Of_Shades · August 2018

Tasear wrote: »

Jack_Of_Shades wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Today I sloted some gear I thought might work, then generated ultimate then light attacked my way to 20k DPS on werewolf. Changed glyphs and food then pushed up to 34k DPS. Want something simple yet powerful and fun then try werewolf.

I have done some werewolf builds, I do enjoy them. I recall having an orc werewolf. Wasn't too bad, I think I mostly did it for the speed. It was years ago. But I'll play around with a wolf build. Might be fun again! Thanks!

Narvuntien wrote: »

The damage over time skills elemental blockage and endless hail do a quarter of your damage in PVE.

Which makes one bar unworkable for stamina characters it might be possible for some mag classes though.

I think I could make a MagDK one bar build that was good enough (but I lose inner light). Atm when I do a skeleton parse I switch elemental blockade to my front bar because with my 300 ping I lose so much dps weapon swaping.. but in dungeons and trials I want harness magicka on my front bar for reactive defense. (again because bar swapping is so slow)

MagDk
Engulfing flames, Burning embers, Whip, Elemental blockade, Flames of oblivion, Dragonknight standard.

You lose ash cloud, but with 300 ping I keep double casting it and nuking my mana pool I'd be kind of be happy not to have to deal with it and its clunky animation.

I'm thinking with that build, definitely a dark elf. That much fire would be brutal with that race.

That's the attribute I'm having the most trouble with making a one bar set up. I've attempted to make my stamblade khajiit a one bar build. Not going so well. I've already crossed over into bow use with dw daggers. He has like one skill on the back bar for the bow. And then all class skills and some dw on front bar. Trying to consolidate it and make something worthwhile.

They updated werewolves today it's so much easier and fun to play. The synergy actually works well now!

Well now I have to check it out. I haven't seen changes on the werewolf in.. I don't think they have really ever changed up much on the werewolf, come to think of it. Might have to try to redo my old build from way back. Haha

sevomd69 · August 2018

You can complete VMA with 1 bar...and that is the epitome of solo play in this game...

Jack_Of_Shades · August 2018

Hippie4927 wrote: »

I play a magplar using one bar. I use a lightning staff and slot blockade, BOL, crushing shock, blazing spears, and puncturing sweeps. I can solo all pve content except world bosses and group dungeons. My armor is 5 pc. Julianos and 5 pc. war maidens. If I were a better player, I might be able to solo some group dungeons and world bosses but I am not good enough.

I use almost the same exact build myself. It helps me tear through a lot of public dungeons and other pve stuff. I actually enjoy that one. My problem is, I can't seem to figure out wardens right now.

Jack_Of_Shades · August 2018

sevomd69 wrote: »

You can complete VMA with 1 bar...and that is the epitome of solo play in this game...

I haven't done vMA yet, I've only completed maelstrom once on my PS4 account a year or so ago.

Jack_Of_Shades · September 2018

Has anyone found a build for the Warden yet? I'm still playing around with skills. It seems this class was meant to be a more support/summoning role. Might be wrong. I have yet to max one out, though, so I can't say for sure.

Finviuswe · September 2018

One bar meta?

Maybe we should make a separate PvP campaign for this: the one bar campaign

ConeOfSilence · September 2018

I also solo overland, ping is too high to do anything competitive and my fingers are not as quick as they were 20 yrs ago. I just do the basic stuff, play the story line, dungeons, dolmons, daily quests and so forth. I use a 2 bar set up but keep it simple with AOT on 1 bar and single target on the other. I don't bother with complicated rotations and dps and the max meta and all that stuff, I just do what I want which really is the good thing about this game.

D0PAMINE · September 2018

Hippie4927 wrote: »

I play a magplar using one bar. I use a lightning staff and slot blockade, BOL, crushing shock, blazing spears, and puncturing sweeps. I can solo all pve content except world bosses and group dungeons. My armor is 5 pc. Julianos and 5 pc. war maidens. If I were a better player, I might be able to solo some group dungeons and world bosses but I am not good enough.

I run the exact same gear setup. Skoria helps, also put CP in Thaumaturge and try to get like 9-11k spell pen and Sweeps and Blockade alone will help you solo Normal Group dungeons like CoA, Direfrost (do the door trick on Youtube) and various other easier ones. Also I run Sharpened Lightning and Nirnhoned Inferno. Infused is good and reccomended, just make sure your weapons are golded. I'm sure you'll be doing those and soloing World Bosses in no time. Below is my main bar choice that you may like as well.

@Jack_Of_Shades a simple Magplar bar (I use both but sometimes im just too lazy to swap)

Radiant Aura (Good regen slottable) cast this before fights while close to the enemy
Honor the Dead or Breath of Life
Elemental Blockade
Vampires Bane or Power of the Light
Puncturing Sweeps - Your main spammable and heal

Ultimate I use is Eye of the Storm, but whatever does damage is fine. Shooting Star is good and cheap.

D0PAMINE · September 2018

Jack_Of_Shades wrote: »

Has anyone found a build for the Warden yet? I'm still playing around with skills. It seems this class was meant to be a more support/summoning role. Might be wrong. I have yet to max one out, though, so I can't say for sure.

You can run Julianos and Rattlecage. I did that when wardens came out and it wasnt bad.

Jack_Of_Shades · September 2018

@D0PAMINE Yeah I run a Magplar, that is about my only character so far that can melt face. Haha

Rattlecage? I know about Julianos, but I haven't heard about the latter. I mostly need to play around with more skills and see what can be one barred to destroy. Similar to a Magplar!

-Jack Of Shades,
The mysterious Sage

D0PAMINE · September 2018

Jack_Of_Shades wrote: »

@D0PAMINE Yeah I run a Magplar, that is about my only character so far that can melt face. Haha

Rattlecage? I know about Julianos, but I haven't heard about the latter. I mostly need to play around with more skills and see what can be one barred to destroy. Similar to a Magplar!

-Jack Of Shades,
The mysterious Sage

Rattlecage gives you major sorcery all the time. I used it so I could run innerlight and didnt want to cast the jellyfish or use spell power pots. I had no sustain issues and was at close to 4k spell damage all the time. It was an experimental build before I went full healer.

D0PAMINE · September 2018

@Waffennacht Tagging you because you're an experienced soloer. Curious of your input.

Darkenarlol · September 2018

bar swapping, animation cancelling, meta builds and min/maxing - all those words can be summarized as

optimisation of your character to squeeze most possible perforfarmance in challenging content.

if you are not doing some endgame group activities or vma leaderboards then why do you care about all this stuff?

overland is brain dead easy and dies too fast even if only light attacking it

world bosses? can be killed solo with 1 heal skill slotted (not a fast kill by optimized character, but it is a kill, right?)

use correct tools for correct situations. if you don't need something for niche contetn you are enjoing then don't force

yourself to be like *those meta guys*...because *those meta guys* builded not for overland or some normal fingal

grotto solo but for hardest endgame content.

pdblake · September 2018

I play pretty much solo too. Just started a templar and use two bars though, one for ranged skills and switch to the back bar for up close and personal stuff

My last character was a pet sorc though and I rarely switched bars and did get to the point where I was getting some group stuff completed solo, mostly the group aspects of delves and dungeons.

I've never done a trial or PvP, save for a couple of battlegrounds (which were quite hilarious). I'm not in any guilds either.

If I come across content that requires more than just me I turn around and do something else.

ArchMikem · September 2018

Jack_Of_Shades wrote: »

@D0PAMINE Yeah I run a Magplar, that is about my only character so far that can melt face. Haha

Rattlecage? I know about Julianos, but I haven't heard about the latter. I mostly need to play around with more skills and see what can be one barred to destroy. Similar to a Magplar!

-Jack Of Shades,
The mysterious Sage

As a MagPlar? Elemental Blockade + Blazing Spear + Sweeps = mobs will melt. Its better if you wear Grothdarr, but that requires runs through Vaults of Madness. Inner Light and Breath of Life for the other two skills and Destro for Ultimate. But if you want more magic and recovery then use Meteor.

phileunderx2 · September 2018

Overland pve I rarely go to my back bar so it's very doable.

theyancey · September 2018

I am also a solo PvE player. While I mostly use a single bar for my magden I do keep some utilities on bar 2 that carry over and are quite helpful. While I do not do any formal groups I do enjoy the sort of ad hoc groups that occur when I am in a dungeon and am able to help bring down a boss without ever having to formally group. Same with dolmens overland.

DeadlyRecluse · September 2018

Jack_Of_Shades wrote: »

. I don't care. I'm not being competitive. Nor am I grouping. It's not harming people at all. It's just ME. It's solo only.

As long as you aren't trying to do challenging solo stuff (soloing vet dungeons, vMA, etc.) it's really just your imagination limiting your bar setups.

In general, for casual solo play, I'd try to stick to the basic "principles" of eso (focus one stat for damage--in gear, attributes, enchants, and skills--run dots, buffs, and either a spammable or heavy attacks) and honestly just pick abilities I like.

tunepunk · September 2018

I mostly play Solo PVE. I've got 2 one bar buid characters that does surprisingly well.

1 Bar Bow Stamsorc.
Mostly play this one lately. Does really well soloing normal dungeons. Doing around 22-27k dps on one bar, against the average normal dungeon boss (solo). This one kills Trolls, giants and mammoths etc in about 3-4 seconds. and has decent sustain.

Skills: Focused Aim, Bound Armaments, Arrow Barrage, Critical Surge, Hurricane. Flawless dawnbreaker.

1 Bar Magplar.
Really fun to play and easy. Great survivability and damage. I usually do 25-30k on 3m skeleton.

Skills: Puncturing Sweeps, Ritual of retribution, Wall of elements, Blazing Spear, Inner light, Ice Comet.

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srfrogg23 · September 2018

Sometimes I use a 1 bar build if I'm just questing. It basically amounts to:
1 Single target spammable (funnel health)
1 DoT (crippling grasp)
1 AoE (elemental blockade)
2 Buffs (entropy and inner light)
Elemental Rage
Lightning Staff

That ends up being enough to tackle just about enough to handle anything the solo pve experience throws at me.

Sparr0w · September 2018

Just heavy attack with a lightning staff & stick everything into light/heavy attack and AoE bonus. Have a dot and an aoe on your bar, then a buff and a heal.

GreenHere · September 2018

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eso_nya · September 2018

ESO_GOD wrote: »

One bar meta?

Maybe we should make a separate PvP campaign for this: the one bar campaign

I'm rooting for a naked fistfighting campaign for a while now.

on topic: when im leveling up alts i have one bar for combat and a second bar filled with random skills i want to level, i swap to that one when turning in quests. usually the stronger the toon gets, the frontbar starts filling up with random skills aswell