One Bar Builds For Solo PvE? [Discussion]

GreenHere

Forgot to mention; that build's other bar is meant to be a decent works-in-a-pinch healer on the back bar, if that sort of thing floats your boat. We've got through many 4 man vet dungeons with my friend being the healer like this. Even duo'd quite a bit with this setup. They love it.

Valrien

Out of curiosity...why?

AhPook_Is_Here

Jack_Of_Shades wrote: »

On eso I don't do groups. I don't play PvP. I don't do dungeons that take more than myself to complete. So, naturally, I don't bar swap.

-Jack

I really loved that part! How the conclusion just flowed so naturally from the premises, you got my awesome!

Personally, I don't swim, I don't run, I don't ride, so obviously I don't read!

D0PAMINE

ArchMikem wrote: »

Jack_Of_Shades wrote: »

@D0PAMINE Yeah I run a Magplar, that is about my only character so far that can melt face. Haha

Rattlecage? I know about Julianos, but I haven't heard about the latter. I mostly need to play around with more skills and see what can be one barred to destroy. Similar to a Magplar!

-Jack Of Shades,
The mysterious Sage

As a MagPlar? Elemental Blockade + Blazing Spear + Sweeps = mobs will melt. Its better if you wear Grothdarr, but that requires runs through Vaults of Madness. Inner Light and Breath of Life for the other two skills and Destro for Ultimate. But if you want more magic and recovery then use Meteor.

No that was an Experimental Warden build I ran.

Bergzorn

I just tried out a full-on health regeneration build.

5xBeekeeper, 5xOrgnum's Scales, 2xTroll King, all heavy, 3x infused health regeneration enchant on jewellery, Steed Mundus and max health + health regeneration food. It's a DK, but that does not really matter. All health enchants, but 64 points into stamina for stronger heals. Some damage mitigation via CP is very helpful.

With this, you can stand afk in front of various world bosses (not all) with no risk of death. You just have to wait for someone to do the damage if you want to kill the boss.

If you put three skills on your one bar, Puncture for the taunt, Vigor for self- and group heal, and Caltrops for thrash pulls, you can tank random normals just by standing there, no need to block, no need to yell at the lvl 10 healer for using a bow.

It's a pointless build and gets boring after the third dungeon, but yeah, half a bar is enough.

Edit: I don't perceive running random dungeons like this as grouping, I'm just exploiting that other players want to kill the same vermin.

nemvar

This used to be my unarmed PVP build. It only utilized one bar because you could not weapon switch without weapons (I think they changed that recently). I would probably also work fine even if you are using a weapon.

Class: Nightblade

Abilities:
Relentless Focus
Surprise Attack
Essence Drain
Vigor
Cloak
Incap

Sets:
5xBone Pirate
3xAgility
2xMonster set of choice

Lysette

My warden setup is like this

1. armor spell
2. healing spell
3. spammable spell, like cliff racers
4. AOE effect - whatever matches your play style
5. gap closer - like critical charge

ultimate - eternal guardian

This is playable like this pretty much from around level 8-10 on and requires just minor changes over time.

And if played with a bow on the back bar:

1. motion buff
2. healing spell
3. spammable
4. AOE bow effect
5. snipe or similar

I basically try to stick always to the same logic in my slots:

1. defense (with a bow defense is movement speed)
2. regeneration
3. spammable
4. AOE
5. range

Jack_Of_Shades

Well, I must say I did NOT expect this many replies to the topic. I appreciate anyone, and everyone, who posted any information. I took a bit of aomething from each. And I suppose my imagination could be better when it came to building. I just figured if Magplars existed, why not others?

And, from the general consensus here, it seems having a little bit of everything on one bar generally helps. One DOT, one AOE, etc. Seems logical. You would be rather well rounded with a single bar, at least. I may have to just experiment with the Warden.

-Jack Of Shades,
The mysterious Sage

ZonasArch

I run magplar, and it's my understanding you're familiar with it, but I have infernal guardian julianos and will power jewelry, with torugs lighting staff. Not ideal but I got lazy with this build after update 18. I still get 22k does which is enough for most non group content, including soloing dungeons and a few bosses. I also know you can push over 30k with this exact same build, if you're skilled, which I'm not.

My bar goes puncturing sweeps, shards, BoL, elemental blockade and innerlight, with soul strike ult. I use infused staff with shield enchant, to proceed infernal guardian on my LA and HAs, chest and legs are ehavy, all else is light, witchmother brew for extra Regen. Damage enchant on jewelry and Magicka on armor.

If I don't screw up my skills, it's pretty uncommon to die. I also run a back bad with resto, but that's only up when I'm grouping.


I tried a warden tanky build with light armor, using ice staff, the healing trees skill, the ice armor skill, the weird dinobird skill(forgot the name), plus elemtal blockade. I forget the details for this one, but it did great on solo arena.

runagate

Darkenarlol wrote: »

bar swapping, animation cancelling, meta builds and min/maxing - all those words can be summarized as

optimisation of your character to squeeze most possible perforfarmance in challenging content.

This whole thread is based on a nonsensical premise. That quoted statement encapsulates something I cannot fathom why you're grouping together. Animation cancelling, meta builds, min/maxing I suppose sort of do belong in a category together.

What in hell does bar swapping have to do with that?! smh

I would hazard to guess the best counterexample of this is that the most casualest of casual RPer may want to use both an ice staff and dual wield swords. About the least optimized thing imaginable, but nonetheless would use bar swapping.

Sylvermynx

I really only use one bar. My ping is so high (mostly around 2 seconds - yep, 2 full seconds...) the only stuff that actually works overland is instant cast spells. Ultimate almost never goes off, even with making sure that ground cast is set to on instead of auto. Swapping bars? Nope, not happening. Most of the time I can't even get the quickslot to activate to keep from dying.

For some reason, ESO is a lot harder for a satellite connection than WoW and RIFT were....

DanteYoda

Jack_Of_Shades wrote: »

Hi, I'm Jack Of Shades. I'm a notoriously solo player on eso. Have been for a long time. I've played pretty much every elder scrolls game. [Huge fan] So, I'm basically a single player type of guy.

On eso I don't do groups. I don't play PvP. I don't do dungeons that take more than myself to complete. So, naturally, I don't bar swap. And it got me thinking... are there players like me who have built one bar builds that they are proud of!?

Before I get started on this topic I just want to say: Please don't come in here saying myself, or others, are halving our utilities, not using all of our possible dps, dot, etc. I don't care. I'm not being competitive. Nor am I grouping. It's not harming people at all. It's just ME. It's solo only.

Anyway, wanted to talk to other fellow one bar users and see what you've come up with! Not to mention, I'm still looking for other awesome one bar builds for the Warden! I've actually found a couple videos on YouTube that show one bar builds. Hoping to see more!

Thanks for stopping by and reading, hope to discuss some awesome builds with other players!

-Jack

Wow we must be kindred souls because i'm exactly the same. One bar warden builds are hard now they've messed up Arctic frost..

But you can try

Winter's revenge, Blockade of Frost, Frost clench, Force pulse, Living trellis (was Arctic blast) and permafrost as the ult.

On my back bar
Ice fortress, Blue betty, Bird of prey, shimmering shield, and whatever you like, ult again is permafrost.

Obviously i use dual ice staves..

I run Sloads and Bahrahas Curse for extra CC and Dots, kills everything really fast gives extra health, heals and nullifies traps.

But for 99% content you will never need the second bar.

Jack_Of_Shades

DanteYoda wrote: »

Wow we must be kindred souls because i'm exactly the same. One bar warden builds are hard now they've messed up Arctic frost..

But you can try

Winter's revenge, Blockade of Frost, Frost clench, Force pulse, Living trellis (was Arctic blast) and permafrost as the ult.

On my back bar
Ice fortress, Blue betty, Bird of prey, shimmering shield, and whatever you like, ult again is permafrost.

Obviously i use dual ice staves..

I run Sloads and Bahrahas Curse for extra CC and Dots, kills everything really fast gives extra health, heals and nullifies traps.

But for 99% content you will never need the second bar.

I may give that a shot, thanks for the post! I'm actually heavily influenced in finding a warden one bar build. So I'm glad you threw one out there! I figured with solo play, and nothing else, it shouldn't be TOO hard to get something going. But I haven't maxed one out so I don't have any data for comparison.

-Jack Of Shades,
The mysterious Sage

mocap

Magplar:
1) Inner Light;
2) Structured Entropy;
3) Breath of Life
4) Blockade;
5) Puncturing Sweep (replace key '5' to 'Q' or any "easy-to-spam" button);
6) Shooting Star;

Drop Entropy for Major Sorcery (some dots and heals too).
Drop Blockade;
Drop Shooting Star if ready;
JAB - light attack - JAB - light attack - JAB - light attack - JAB - light attack - JAB - light attack -
repeat

OR

become a werewolf as any class and race and just spam light attacks with crazy damage numbers.

Jack_Of_Shades

Yeah, the Magplar I have down completely well! He's really doing major damage. But Wardens are my main focus, among other classes. I've half accomplished sorcerer. Pretty stoked to finally crack the Warden, though.

-Jack Of Shades,
The mysterious Sage

PlagueSD

You want a one bar build for a stam character...Werewolf.

You only have 5 skills as a werewolf.

Good single target damage
Good AoE damage (frontal cone attack)
Pounce (gap closer)
CC (fear)
Self heal

That's pretty much all you need.

Jack_Of_Shades

PlagueSD wrote: »

You want a one bar build for a stam character...Werewolf.

You only have 5 skills as a werewolf.

Good single target damage
Good AoE damage (frontal cone attack)
Pounce (gap closer)
CC (fear)
Self heal

That's pretty much all you need.

I have one of those as well. Very 'beastly if I do say so myself.
My main focus, among others such as finding like minded folks, is a good Warden build. It's harder than I thought. Mostly due to the leveling process. Testing. Trial and error, basically.

May try @DanteYoda 's set up.

-Jack Of Shades
The mysterious Sage

Lysette

Jack_Of_Shades wrote: »

Well, I must say I did NOT expect this many replies to the topic. I appreciate anyone, and everyone, who posted any information. I took a bit of aomething from each. And I suppose my imagination could be better when it came to building. I just figured if Magplars existed, why not others?

And, from the general consensus here, it seems having a little bit of everything on one bar generally helps. One DOT, one AOE, etc. Seems logical. You would be rather well rounded with a single bar, at least. I may have to just experiment with the Warden.

-Jack Of Shades,
The mysterious Sage

Stamina based warden - magicka based is rather unpleasant. With stamina based you have to decide, if you want to morph healing to stamina as well or keep it magicka based - both has advantages and disadvantages.

Lysette

Jack_Of_Shades wrote: »

PlagueSD wrote: »

You want a one bar build for a stam character...Werewolf.

You only have 5 skills as a werewolf.

Good single target damage
Good AoE damage (frontal cone attack)
Pounce (gap closer)
CC (fear)
Self heal

That's pretty much all you need.

I have one of those as well. Very 'beastly if I do say so myself.
My main focus, among others such as finding like minded folks, is a good Warden build. It's harder than I thought. Mostly due to the leveling process. Testing. Trial and error, basically.

May try @DanteYoda 's set up.

-Jack Of Shades
The mysterious Sage

Stamden is awesome - I have just stamden on PC NA - Nord, Redguard, Bosmer, Argonian - well the argonian is for murkmire, but she is awesome to play, I really like her. Otherwise Nord is pretty strong with stamden and so is Bosmer - not so sure about the Redguard yet, but I wanted one as well.

FrancisCrawford

Anything up to and including public dungeons and their bosses can be done with wildly sub-optimal builds. In fact, the most recent character I've been leveling started soloing public dungeon bosses at Level 8. Certainly my healers don't have to change their builds if they want to run a delve or something. Magicka single skillbars generally something like:

• Elemental Blockade
• Class AoE DoT (Liquid Lightning, Refreshing Path pre-nerf, Luminous Shards/Blazing Spear, whatever) or equivalent (Shalks for a warden)
• Ranged spammable (Crushing Shock, Bird, whatever)
• Class heal
• Flex slot
• Ultimate

You can do something similar with Stamden -- Birds, Shalks, the stamina heal I'm forgetting, your favorite melee weapon skill, etc.

It's easy for a stamblade too, with a bow and Surprise Attack, although I'd never use that build because I like to sneak and hence take the Concealed Weapon morph.

Just do what's fun. If you were going to optimize, you'd use both bars anyway.

Ragnork

Hippie4927 wrote: »

I play a magplar using one bar. I use a lightning staff and slot blockade, BOL, crushing shock, blazing spears, and puncturing sweeps. I can solo all pve content except world bosses and group dungeons. My armor is 5 pc. Julianos and 5 pc. war maidens. If I were a better player, I might be able to solo some group dungeons and world bosses but I am not good enough.

My level 23 Argonian is a mag templar; and has a very similar setup to this - today I soloed Fungal Groto 1 - died once because I was not paying attention. Otherwise it was a blast.
(He does have full CP allocation thanks to his big brother though)

Rex-Umbra

For my wifes 1bar Stamplar I got her set up in Dreugh King Slayer, Pelinals and Chudan Monster Set. Jewlery is infused all weapon damage. Just a easy build for a casual to play without needing to worry about buffs. Also has about 5k weapon and spell damage.

OrphanHelgen

Options for stamina:
Relequen set
Werewolf

Magicka dps prob the easiest one. As long as you weave in wall of elements in a good rotation you should be fine. Meteor ultimate.

Raammzzaa

Magica sorcerer is the only class that I know of with popular one-bar, solo-play builds that can get you through even very tough content. Here are a couple of links, but you can find about a dozen more variants of "one-bar, solo" builds if you do a google search for them.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/400833/one-bar-easy-vma-w-video-magsorc-build-for-summerset-no-trial-monster-set-maelstrom-weapon-needed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sgZh6ue-d0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cafavdcH7po

RD065

I like to use 2 one bars if that makes any sense. I don't like swapping bars in combat but before hand I like to run bar two to switch it up and have some fun. If it's a Magicka build i like have Fire staff on one bar, lightning staff on the other. Average player here so i'm sure they both stink but I don't care..

IsharaMeradin

I mostly one bar but do swap especially in group dungeons or on world bosses and sometimes before overland fights

Magicka Warden
5 pc Julianos
5 pc Necropotence
2 pc Shadowrend

Front bar: Nirnhoned inferno staff
Wall of Elements morph, shalks morph, Entropy morph, Dive morph, Inner Light. Ultimate: Northern Storm

Back bar: Powered restoration staff
Netch morph, Lotus Blossom morph, adjustable slot, adjustable slot, Inner Light. Ultimate: Northern Storm

I have used attacks on the back bar adjustable slots but these days I just run around with Budding Seeds and the mushroom morph. Back bar is mostly used for sustain purposes when needed.

It is real easy. Before tougher stuff, I'll swap to back bar and cast the Netch and Lotus Blossom then swap back to the front. I'll run towards the enemy and cast the shalks before they notice me. It takes 3 seconds for the shalks to appear and attack. In that time I'll have gotten their attention and cast the wall of elements morph followed by entropy to boost my health then start rotating between light attacks and Dive till they're dead.

Many overland fights they are dead once the shalks come out but not always. It really depends on how well I can line the shalks up and how gracious they were to clump up in one area.

DanteYoda

Jack_Of_Shades wrote: »

DanteYoda wrote: »

Wow we must be kindred souls because i'm exactly the same. One bar warden builds are hard now they've messed up Arctic frost..

But you can try

Winter's revenge, Blockade of Frost, Frost clench, Force pulse, Living trellis (was Arctic blast) and permafrost as the ult.

On my back bar
Ice fortress, Blue betty, Bird of prey, shimmering shield, and whatever you like, ult again is permafrost.

Obviously i use dual ice staves..

I run Sloads and Bahrahas Curse for extra CC and Dots, kills everything really fast gives extra health, heals and nullifies traps.

But for 99% content you will never need the second bar.

I may give that a shot, thanks for the post! I'm actually heavily influenced in finding a warden one bar build. So I'm glad you threw one out there! I figured with solo play, and nothing else, it shouldn't be TOO hard to get something going. But I haven't maxed one out so I don't have any data for comparison.

-Jack Of Shades,
The mysterious Sage

Instead of Baharahas or sloads you can go Ysgramor's and mothers sorrow or mad tinkerers, war maiden, all viable in open world.

Jaraal

Rex-Umbra wrote: »

For my wifes 1bar Stamplar I got her set up in Dreugh King Slayer, Pelinals and Chudan Monster Set. Jewlery is infused all weapon damage. Just a easy build for a casual to play without needing to worry about buffs. Also has about 5k weapon and spell damage.

I also run Dreugh King when soloing so I don't have to slot a Major Brutality spell. It's also great for werewolves who choose to take the better heal morph, plus the Major Expedition on kills lets you get around faster when you don't have access to Rapids. I also slot (but don't use, when not in ww form) Expert Hunter from the Fighter's Guild skill line for the Major Savagery buff.

Jack_Of_Shades

DanteYoda wrote: »

Instead of Baharahas or sloads you can go Ysgramor's and mothers sorrow or mad tinkerers, war maiden, all viable in open world.

I LOVE the mad tinkerers set. It adds so much damage to attacks with the summoned automaton.

-Jack Of Shades
The mysterious Sage.

Sondernaam

I prefer playing solo, and therefor I don't give a s..t about bar swaps, rotation, etc etc. I play with one bar and can solo most game content. My DPS is probably 2k or it may be 10k or maybe 15k - (never tested it) - SO WHAT... I honestly don't care, as long as I enjoy playing the game the way that I want to play it - There are way to many players that want to prescribe to others how they MUST play the game.

Fortunately I enjoy my work more than gaming, and unlike too many other ESO players, I don't play the game 24/7, "practising" my rotation for hours on hours each day - how f.en boring...…….
Wonder how many, if any, dungeon groups will accept me if they know that my lvl 700 can maybe do only 2k DPS......