One Bar Builds For Solo PvE? [Discussion]

Cirantille

While I am doing solo content, I find magicka sorcerer to be the easiest

Lots of AoE damage

In fact sometimes I collect mobs in one place so I can kill them at the same time

Coatmagic

Um.. sadly... this is not the place to be sharing such things.

Everything good / helpful / useful that gets shared on these forums gets removed or nerfed to oblivion,
so please chat in game with people about this or other forums... anywhere but here.

redlink1979

Why would you only use one bar? What's your argument?
You can slot offensive abilities on one bar and defensive abilities on the other...

Jack_Of_Shades

redlink1979 wrote: »

Why would you only use one bar? What's your argument?
You can slot offensive abilities on one bar and defensive abilities on the other...

There is no argument. It's personal preference. And, if you read the beginning like a few other recent posters DIDN'T, I'm not using it where it affects other players. Not only is it not hard to do, I play this game as if it's single player/co-op. I became bored constantly playing Skyrim and taking in hundreds of hours of gameplay. So, while I wait for the next entry, I play ESO as if it were Co-op, at best. Meaning, no interactions with other players besides people I know. Being min/max and such has no real effect on me when playing Elder scrolls games. So, to recap, If you didn't read the entire beginning of this post... Just don't post at all. Because it's counterintuitive and just a plain waste of time.

MaleAmazon

1h + s. All FG skills including pre-nerf flawless dawnbreaker. Sorcerer with dark deal. Infused bash damage glyphs, everything to max weapon damage while having really heavy armor.

And just block and bash everything, using dark deal to regenerate (I guess the psijic skill would have been good too). (Technically I suppose it wasn´t a one-bar build, but almost).

If you didn´t know, bash damage used to scale only (essentially) on weapon damage. And you can bash really quickly if you spam it + there are CP to help with cost. So I figured I´d make a heavy armor all-tristat tanky sorcerer, and use a souped-up bash damage to confuse and kill people in PvP




I never got to try it out though since they casually changed this to conform to the 10:1 standard..

But I do have a tank now with viper / selene / 7th legion with all infused bash damage glyphs that I do 4-man dungeons with for fun Whenever I can, it´s button mashing to mash the boss with my spiky-shield.

redlink1979

Jack_Of_Shades wrote: »

redlink1979 wrote: »

Why would you only use one bar? What's your argument?
You can slot offensive abilities on one bar and defensive abilities on the other...

There is no argument. It's personal preference. And, if you read the beginning like a few other recent posters DIDN'T, I'm not using it where it affects other players. Not only is it not hard to do, I play this game as if it's single player/co-op. I became bored constantly playing Skyrim and taking in hundreds of hours of gameplay. So, while I wait for the next entry, I play ESO as if it were Co-op, at best. Meaning, no interactions with other players besides people I know. Being min/max and such has no real effect on me when playing Elder scrolls games. So, to recap, If you didn't read the entire beginning of this post... Just don't post at all. Because it's counterintuitive and just a plain waste of time.

I read your post. I just asked for your argument/explanation, nothing more.
I just think it's awkward not to use both bars... It's like you are "50%" of what you can be, regardless if you play alone or with others...

Varkal2112

Jack_Of_Shades wrote: »

redlink1979 wrote: »

Why would you only use one bar? What's your argument?
You can slot offensive abilities on one bar and defensive abilities on the other...

There is no argument. It's personal preference. And, if you read the beginning like a few other recent posters DIDN'T, I'm not using it where it affects other players. Not only is it not hard to do, I play this game as if it's single player/co-op. I became bored constantly playing Skyrim and taking in hundreds of hours of gameplay. So, while I wait for the next entry, I play ESO as if it were Co-op, at best. Meaning, no interactions with other players besides people I know. Being min/max and such has no real effect on me when playing Elder scrolls games. So, to recap, If you didn't read the entire beginning of this post... Just don't post at all. Because it's counterintuitive and just a plain waste of time.

Again, what does min/maxing have to do with with using the 2nd bar? It's like comparing training for a marathon to walking using both your legs instead of hopping on one. Using the backbar isn't some elite min/max playstyle for the top raiding cool kids, it's base mechanics.

Essavias

As a magplar, for overland content (except WBs) I need one button - Jabs. Anything else is an added luxury.

Jusey1

It's possible as a werewolf. My main mostly uses one bar (his off bar are just buffs or debuffs for the enemy), and especially more so once he turns into a werewolf (since you only have one bar in ww form).

Works very well for normal content and I can solo almost anything within reason. (Can't solo specific dungeons due to OHKO mechanics it has which requires another player to be with you).

Jack_Of_Shades

Jusey1 wrote: »

It's possible as a werewolf. My main mostly uses one bar (his off bar are just buffs or debuffs for the enemy), and especially more so once he turns into a werewolf (since you only have one bar in ww form).

Works very well for normal content and I can solo almost anything within reason. (Can't solo specific dungeons due to OHKO mechanics it has which requires another player to be with you).

I've done werewolf quite a bit, and it works really well. The damage is insane too!

Jack_Of_Shades

Actually, speaking of magplar, my master crafter toon is also a one bar magplar. I used him with 2 others to beat the Dragonstar. He performed REALLY well!

Drako_Ei

Go werewolf and use this setup:
Arms of relequen perfected or non perfected

Briarheart

Chudan 1 heavy 1 light

Tristat food.

I managed to solo veteran falkread hold with that build

Stamsorc orc if you want damage, or khajiit if you want survivability, you get more heals as khajiit but a little less damage

Jack_Of_Shades

Drako_Ei wrote: »

Go werewolf and use this setup:
Arms of relequen perfected or non perfected

Briarheart

Chudan 1 heavy 1 light

Tristat food.

I managed to solo veteran falkread hold with that build

Stamsorc orc if you want damage, or khajiit if you want survivability, you get more heals as khajiit but a little less damage

Seriously!? Damn. Might need to mess with the werewolf again and try this configuration. Thanks!

SirLeeMinion

Drako_Ei wrote: »

Go werewolf and use this setup:
Arms of relequen perfected or non perfected

Briarheart

Chudan 1 heavy 1 light

Tristat food.

I managed to solo veteran falkread hold with that build

Stamsorc orc if you want damage, or khajiit if you want survivability, you get more heals as khajiit but a little less damage

After update 23?

grkkll

sevomd69 wrote: »

You can complete VMA with 1 bar...and that is the epitome of solo play in this game...

Alcast has a specific sorcerer build with 1 bar for VMA. I'm using it in Elsweyr atm

Jack_Of_Shades

grkkll wrote: »

sevomd69 wrote: »

You can complete VMA with 1 bar...and that is the epitome of solo play in this game...

Alcast has a specific sorcerer build with 1 bar for VMA. I'm using it in Elsweyr atm

I saw that, I was wondering about it. Any good?

Shantu

Jack_Of_Shades wrote: »

grkkll wrote: »

sevomd69 wrote: »

You can complete VMA with 1 bar...and that is the epitome of solo play in this game...

Alcast has a specific sorcerer build with 1 bar for VMA. I'm using it in Elsweyr atm

I saw that, I was wondering about it. Any good?

Alcast's 1bar Sorc build for vMA actually originated with Mistress of Apocrypha...and yes, it's a good defensive build (high health, big shield) but very low DPS. Still a fun build as I've cleared vMA many times with it (though I use a the back bar also).

Another Sorc heavy attack build I enjoy that could be a 1 bar (I use it with both bars but spend most of my time on the front bar) is Infallible Aether/Necropotence/Valkyn with Thief mundus and lightning staff. It has reasonably good damage. Buffed with Spell Power pots you get 57.2% crit and 2502 spell damage. IA provides Minor Slayer, 903 extra damage to heavy attack, and Minor Vulnerability for 10 seconds to enemies you hit with a heavy attack.

Since you're interested in only 1 bar, on the front bar I use Twilight Matriarch, Volatile Familiar, Unstable Wall, Structured Entropy, and Hardened Ward. Even more effective is pets, Boundless Storm, Lightning Flood, and Daedric Prey on the back bar. Even if you just use Boundless Storm on the back bar whenever it runs out, you're survivability goes way up (as well as some decent melee damage).