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Imperial Red Diamond passive please rework.
GreenSoup2HoT
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I bring this passive up every pts patch. Red Guard Adrenaline Rush got a rework, give the sister shield race the same treatment!
Adrenaline Rush in current form:
"Your melee attacks restore 792 Stamina. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds "
I'd like to see this:
Red Diamond:
Upon successful melee attack: heal for 5000 health, 6 second cooldown. (Value's can be adjusted accordingly)
Current Passive:
Your melee attacks have a 10% chance to restore 6% of your Max Health
Health threshold numbers for scale:
Note these values would be effected by battle spirit in pvp or any healing buffs/debuffs.
If you compare the two talents with identical players with both 30,000 health this is what you get:
Red Diamond (30k hp): melee attack shave a 10% chance to restore 6% (1800) hp
Adrenaline Rush: Your melee attacks restore 792 Stamina. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.
Now does this look fair?
Red Diamond: Your melee attacks heal for 5000 health, 5 second cooldown. (equals 500 hp regen in pvp; if 100% uptime)
Adrenaline Rush: Your melee attacks restore 792 Stamina. 5 second cooldown. (equals 316 stamina regen; if 100% uptime)
Should Red Diamond not be effected by battlespirit/buffs or debuffs?! (So theres no big difference between pvp and pve due to battle-spirit) ?
Thoughts?
Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on September 23, 2018 12:10AM Adrenaline Rush in current form:
"Your melee attacks restore 792 Stamina. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds "
I'd like to see this:
Red Diamond:
Upon successful melee attack: heal for 5000 health, 6 second cooldown. (Value's can be adjusted accordingly)
Current Passive:
Your melee attacks have a 10% chance to restore 6% of your Max Health
Health threshold numbers for scale:
- 10,000 health: 600 health back
- 20,000 health: 1200 health back
- 30,000 health: 1800 health back
- 40,000 health: 2400 health back
- 50,000 health: 3000 health back
- 100,000 health: 6000 health back
Note these values would be effected by battle spirit in pvp or any healing buffs/debuffs.
If you compare the two talents with identical players with both 30,000 health this is what you get:
Red Diamond (30k hp): melee attack shave a 10% chance to restore 6% (1800) hp
Adrenaline Rush: Your melee attacks restore 792 Stamina. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.
Now does this look fair?
Red Diamond: Your melee attacks heal for 5000 health, 5 second cooldown. (equals 500 hp regen in pvp; if 100% uptime)
Adrenaline Rush: Your melee attacks restore 792 Stamina. 5 second cooldown. (equals 316 stamina regen; if 100% uptime)
Should Red Diamond not be effected by battlespirit/buffs or debuffs?! (So theres no big difference between pvp and pve due to battle-spirit) ?
Thoughts?
PS4 NA DC
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Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭PTS section isn’t the place for this.
Combat & Character Mechanics is where it should be.
We’re trying to evaluate known patch note changes that are hitting with Update 20 Murkmire. Not player-initiated changes that ZOS may or may not implement at a later date.
New ideas are encouraged ... just make sure they’re relevant to the current PTS cycle.
Edited by Taleof2Cities on September 23, 2018 10:11AM0 -
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✭✭Yeah i rerolled away from imperial that is such a useless passive currently.Xbox GT: Rex Umbrah
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✭alot of passives should be reworked to bring them closer to each other from a competive perspective.
*stares at nord, imperial and breton passives*Edited by ATomiX96 on September 23, 2018 5:12PM0 -
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✭GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »I bring this passive up every pts patch. Red Guard Adrenaline Rush got a rework, give the sister shield race the same treatment!
Adrenaline Rush in current form:
"Your melee attacks restore 792 Stamina. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds "
I'd like to see this:
Red Diamond:
Upon successful melee attack: heal for 5000 health, 6 second cooldown. (Value's can be adjusted accordingly)
Current Passive:
Your melee attacks have a 10% chance to restore 6% of your Max Health
Health threshold numbers for scale:- 10,000 health: 600 health back
- 20,000 health: 1200 health back
- 30,000 health: 1800 health back
- 40,000 health: 2400 health back
- 50,000 health: 3000 health back
- 100,000 health: 6000 health back
Note these values would be effected by battle spirit in pvp or any healing buffs/debuffs.
If you compare the two talents with identical players with both 30,000 health this is what you get:
Red Diamond (30k hp): melee attack shave a 10% chance to restore 6% (1800) hp
Adrenaline Rush: Your melee attacks restore 792 Stamina. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.
Now does this look fair?
Red Diamond: Your melee attacks heal for 5000 health, 5 second cooldown. (equals 500 hp regen in pvp; if 100% uptime)
Adrenaline Rush: Your melee attacks restore 792 Stamina. 5 second cooldown. (equals 316 stamina regen; if 100% uptime)
Should Red Diamond not be effected by battlespirit/buffs or debuffs?! (So theres no big difference between pvp and pve due to battle-spirit) ?
Thoughts?
plz no.
The passive is really good as is you just don't know it0 -
GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »I bring this passive up every pts patch. Red Guard Adrenaline Rush got a rework, give the sister shield race the same treatment!
Adrenaline Rush in current form:
"Your melee attacks restore 792 Stamina. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds "
I'd like to see this:
Red Diamond:
Upon successful melee attack: heal for 5000 health, 6 second cooldown. (Value's can be adjusted accordingly)
Current Passive:
Your melee attacks have a 10% chance to restore 6% of your Max Health
Health threshold numbers for scale:- 10,000 health: 600 health back
- 20,000 health: 1200 health back
- 30,000 health: 1800 health back
- 40,000 health: 2400 health back
- 50,000 health: 3000 health back
- 100,000 health: 6000 health back
Note these values would be effected by battle spirit in pvp or any healing buffs/debuffs.
If you compare the two talents with identical players with both 30,000 health this is what you get:
Red Diamond (30k hp): melee attack shave a 10% chance to restore 6% (1800) hp
Adrenaline Rush: Your melee attacks restore 792 Stamina. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.
Now does this look fair?
Red Diamond: Your melee attacks heal for 5000 health, 5 second cooldown. (equals 500 hp regen in pvp; if 100% uptime)
Adrenaline Rush: Your melee attacks restore 792 Stamina. 5 second cooldown. (equals 316 stamina regen; if 100% uptime)
Should Red Diamond not be effected by battlespirit/buffs or debuffs?! (So theres no big difference between pvp and pve due to battle-spirit) ?
Thoughts?
plz no.
The passive is really good as is you just don't know it
the passive can be godly and can be useless. we dont know what we'll get as its 10% rng. that doesnt make the passive good.
assume i dont know more please...PS4 NA DC0