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Summerfall Event - Can we do it?

  • generalmyrick
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    Yes! We can do it!
    what's the meter say?

    how long do we have to go?

    its only been 2 days right?
    "The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:

    Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
    Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"

    Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019

    Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.
  • generalmyrick
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    Yes! We can do it!
    based on our progress... its a no go. :-(

    I'll do it on eu right now and hope for the best. maybe i'll even start a new character with 0 cp and galavant for an hour.
    "The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:

    Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
    Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"

    Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019

    Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.
  • geonsocal
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    @Acrolas ...really well said...

    interesting thought about having such a narrowly defined goal making it so difficult to achieve, or - to even understand...

    I'm no math wiz, but - yeah we'd need like 10% daily bumps to that goal meter thing to reach 100%...that's probably not happening...

    the dedicated pvp folks though make up a very, very small (15% maybe) percentage of the player base...

    and, well, we like villas too :)
    Edited by geonsocal on September 22, 2018 9:03PM
    PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place
  • Folkbandit
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    Yes! We can do it!
    Hey guys!

    I’m almost certain ZoS will give us the home. I’m not saying skipping the achievement won't matter. I am saying that I don't believe they can afford to disappoint our community like that, especially with the shield changes coming with Murkmire. Let's be honest, if the nerf goes live, it's not going to upset *everyone*, but it will upset many.

    Does that mean Zenimax owes us a free house? Not at all, but the fact that Summefall was brought up right after we found out about the first PTS update probably means we'll be getting the house. If it's balanced before release, that's different, but if history PTS patch notes are any indication of what goes live, we're probably getting our shields nerfed and people will remain upset with the change.

    But putting that all aside, the sense of community that we’ve have witnessed so far, and even before we knew about the event, is and has been quite astounding, especially in the Twitch community. The ESO community is unlike any other MMO or gaming community I've seen in a long time. I know ZoS has seen this.

    I feel there’s also a reason we’ll likely be gifted The Psjiic Villa, in particular. The house is enormous. It's enormous and empty with a 700 item limit, less if you don't subscribe to ESO+. It was on PTS and house decorating enthusiasts such as Elara Northwind on YouTube, made various criticisms on the villa which can be seen here.

    If what I’m saying turns out wrong, I’ll certainly eat my words. If they did something like put it on the crown store immediately afterward, I would absolutely reconsider re-subbing for another 6-months in November.

    My only concern is that a lot of people did leave after Summerset so I would still encourage everyone to do it on at least their native server. Doing it on both NA and EU would be fantastic. Also lend a helping hand to those who need a port to Arteum if you find time!

    Otherwise, I would rest easy. There's still plenty of time as well. :smile:
  • Katahdin
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    If its not 75-80% on Monday's update, the house will not happen, imo
    Beta tester November 2013
  • Gorgoneus
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    Summerfell lasts till september 27, but all thouse prizes will be given to all people who have summerset chapter nad log in the game till october 7. I guess alot of people who have no summerset yet just waiting results.
  • ShionRasenka
    Yes! We can do it!
    I say we CAN do it!! I did the achievement on both NA and EU PC, so I did my part!

    LET'S GET THAT METER UP, GUYS!! LET'S REACH 100%!!
    PC (NA)
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    "Ye who turns and runs away can steal the treasure another day."
  • albesca
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    Folkbandit wrote: »
    But putting that all aside, the sense of community that we’ve have witnessed so far, and even before we knew about the event, is and has been quite astounding, especially in the Twitch community. The ESO community is unlike any other MMO or gaming community I've seen in a long time. I know ZoS has seen this.

    True; I've very little experience with gaming community, but I made a character on the NA server today and there was a lot of people offering port around Summerset, I got the achievement in less than an hour (the base mount is slooow).
    PC EU

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  • weedgenius
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    Nope (Don't be negative)
    antoniotf5 wrote: »
    "Oh we're sorry guys, well at least you got a free mount and pet! But don't worry! you can purchase the house with only 10000 crowns!"

    I swear i'll quit if they post anything close to that

    But... why? They posted a goal, if the community doesn't reach it do you expect them to never release a house that they invested time and resources into creating? Would you WANT them to? Or are you saying they should, like, wait a month to release it? Again... why?

    Also, 10k crowns? That's a good one. It'll be 13k AT LEAST.
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  • Runs
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    Addon Request:

    Checks group/guild members achievements. If Summerset Pathfinder before 9/28 then good. If not, then check all Summerset Achievements if none before 9/28 then good. If any before then but not pathfinder then guild kick/ start group vote kick.

    Build this into standard addons that many people run.
    Runs| Orc NightbladeChim-el Adabal| Dunmer TemplarM'air the Honest| Khajiit Templar
    Oddity| Altmer SorcerorDrizlo| Orc DragonKnightLady Ra Gada| Redguard Sorceror
    Taste-of-Hist-Sap| Argonian NightbladeWar'den Peace| Khajiit WardenLittle Warden Annie Altmer Warden
    Ports with Blood| Breton TemplarDirty-Old-Man| Dunmer DragonKnightEyes-of-the-Sun| Argonian DragonKnight
    Bleak Mystique| Nord WardenPolychronopolous| Imperial SorcerorBullcrit| Khajiit Nightblade
    PC NA CP 1250+ and still a noob
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  • Dont_do_drugs
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    Runs wrote: »
    Addon Request:

    Checks group/guild members achievements. If Summerset Pathfinder before 9/28 then good. If not, then check all Summerset Achievements if none before 9/28 then good. If any before then but not pathfinder then guild kick/ start group vote kick.

    Build this into standard addons that many people run.

    yes thats it. especially for this event. i recognized already on forums and ingame hating on each other when somebody didnt do, like "u are unscial", "someone who doesnt is egomanic". ur spy addon would be so awesome. not.
    Edited by Dont_do_drugs on September 22, 2018 11:46PM

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    "I have too admit. People leading trade guilds in this game are quite stupid. Not stupid like fools, but stupid like leaders.
    They can only bla-bla and waste gold on feeding their ego. I am disappointed."

    Egal, wie gut du Schach spielst, die Taube wird alle Figuren umwerfen, auf das Brett kacken und herumstolzieren, als hätte sie gewonnen.

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  • DanteYoda
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    Ok i jumped ahead and ruined my content because i felt bad.. hope you are happy.

    You guys might get the horse i can't see the house at 47%
    Edited by DanteYoda on September 23, 2018 12:16AM
  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    Nope (Don't be negative)
    I wonder if having this at the same time as the first week of PTS is having an impact on the numbers.
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  • Merenwen_812
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    Yes! We can do it!
    I would venture to say, the numbers are x amount of copies sold. Agree with a lot that it is a marketing ploy to sell more copies and would not be surprised if the 100% number is a set amount of copies they are wanting to sell.
  • Salvas_Aren
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    Yes! We can do it!
    DanteYoda wrote: »
    Ok i jumped ahead and ruined my content because i felt bad.. hope you are happy.

    You guys might get the horse i can't see the house at 47%

    Is there a chance to understand this?

    Run like a maniac to 10 spots on the map. You don't have to talk to any NPC or fight any major enemies to do so.
    Edited by Salvas_Aren on September 23, 2018 12:59AM
  • Ohtimbar
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    Not sure
    I battled through crushing boredom to get the achieve on several accounts, twice. Then I saw how little progress has been made since and I'm not feeling very positive about the results. I don't particularly care about the prizes, but I know it would be nice for people with less time and/or disposable income to waste on such things.
    forever stuck in combat
  • Dont_do_drugs
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    DanteYoda wrote: »
    Ok i jumped ahead and ruined my content because i felt bad.. hope you are happy.

    You guys might get the horse i can't see the house at 47%

    Is there a chance to understand this?

    Run like a maniac to 10 spots on the map. You don't have to talk to any NPC or fight any major enemies to do so.

    cant u just say thanks to someone, who isnt interested in the rewards and still did it to support u guys or just not react instead of peeing on him.

    Get Stuff like this (but not this stuff)


    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    "I have too admit. People leading trade guilds in this game are quite stupid. Not stupid like fools, but stupid like leaders.
    They can only bla-bla and waste gold on feeding their ego. I am disappointed."

    Egal, wie gut du Schach spielst, die Taube wird alle Figuren umwerfen, auf das Brett kacken und herumstolzieren, als hätte sie gewonnen.

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  • firedrgn
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    Im just wonder how well zos knows its customers. Ya i said It . They seemed very confident it could be achieved. Ill just let whats presupposed fester a bit and see how far we get this weekend.
  • Salvas_Aren
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    Yes! We can do it!
    DanteYoda wrote: »
    Ok i jumped ahead and ruined my content because i felt bad.. hope you are happy.

    You guys might get the horse i can't see the house at 47%

    Is there a chance to understand this?

    Run like a maniac to 10 spots on the map. You don't have to talk to any NPC or fight any major enemies to do so.

    cant u just say thanks to someone, who isnt interested in the rewards and still did it to support u guys or just not react instead of peeing on him.

    Gave an awesome as compensation for my lack of manners. Nicht genug? >:)
  • Dont_do_drugs
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    DanteYoda wrote: »
    Ok i jumped ahead and ruined my content because i felt bad.. hope you are happy.

    You guys might get the horse i can't see the house at 47%

    Is there a chance to understand this?

    Run like a maniac to 10 spots on the map. You don't have to talk to any NPC or fight any major enemies to do so.

    cant u just say thanks to someone, who isnt interested in the rewards and still did it to support u guys or just not react instead of peeing on him.

    Gave an awesome as compensation for my lack of manners. Nicht genug? >:)

    accepted. :)

    Get Stuff like this (but not this stuff)


    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    "I have too admit. People leading trade guilds in this game are quite stupid. Not stupid like fools, but stupid like leaders.
    They can only bla-bla and waste gold on feeding their ego. I am disappointed."

    Egal, wie gut du Schach spielst, die Taube wird alle Figuren umwerfen, auf das Brett kacken und herumstolzieren, als hätte sie gewonnen.

    Arkadius Trade Tools
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    My Donation (Arkadius' Trade Tools Addon)
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    Port to Friend's House Addon
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  • Altaire
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    Nope (Don't be negative)
    Anyone want to predict what sunday morn's percent increase will be? 5-7 percent at best, but probably 3%.
    I hope I'm proved wrong. It would be great to see that "teaseOmeter" show 20% increase.
    For a few days, We had hope...
  • albesca
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    cant u just say thanks to someone, who isnt interested in the rewards and still did it to support u guys or just not react instead of peeing on him.

    You have to admit that "ruined my content" is a bit dramatic and sounds like those of us that care for the event should feel bad for pressuring him.
    PC EU

    Khajiit has no time for you
  • jainiadral
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    Yes! We can do it!
    DanteYoda wrote: »
    Ok i jumped ahead and ruined my content because i felt bad.. hope you are happy.

    You guys might get the horse i can't see the house at 47%

    Is there a chance to understand this?

    Run like a maniac to 10 spots on the map. You don't have to talk to any NPC or fight any major enemies to do so.

    Eh, as a story-centered player, I totally get it. There was something magical the first time I finished The Queen's Decree and took the portal to Arteum. I stood still for several minutes just taking in the view. There was something magical in it. Taking a taxi to a wayshrine or slamming yourself through the quest just for the sake of achievement hunting loses that element of awesomeness.
  • Caligamy_ESO
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    Not sure
    I look forward to all the threads about how there's not enough furniture slots, and changes to the windows inside and shrubs outside for weeks after its release.
    love is love
  • RPGplayer13579
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    Not sure
    Would it help to have all of my characters to get the Pathfinder Achievement?
    My Characters.

    Mike Snow - Imperial - Templar - One-Handed and Shield - Tank - Daggerfall Covenant - Commander.
    Catelyn Rivers - Breton - Sorcerer - Destruction Staff - Daggerfall Covenant - Telvanni Magister.
    Ashara Sand - Redguard - Warden - Two-Handed/One-Handed and Shield - Daggerfall Covenant - Heroic.
    Tormund gro-Largash - Orsimer - Dragonknight - Two-Handed - Daggerfall Covenant - Furious.
    Lysa Rivers - Breton - Nightblade - Bow/One-Handed and Shield - Vampire - Daggerfall Covenant - Brassy Assassin.

    Jon Karstark - Nord - Dragonknight - Two-Handed - Ebonheart Pact - Drunk.
    Arya Sand - Dunmer - Dragonknight - Dual Wield - Ebonheart Pact - Assassin.
    Sansa Snow - Impeial - Warden - Destruction Staff/One-Handed and Shield - Ebonheart Pect - Swashbuckler.
    Jojen Reed-Walker - Argonian - Templar - Restoration Staff - Healer - Ebonheart Pact - Melancholy.
    Alys Karstark - Nord - Nightblade - Bow/Dual Wield - Ebonheart Pact - Minstrel.

    Nymeria Woods - Bosmer - Nightblade - Bow - Aldmeri Dominion - Thief.
    Brandon Wings - Altmer - Templar - Restoration Staff - Healer - Aldmeri Dominion - Scholar.
    Lyanna Flowers - Altmer - Sorcerer - Sword/Destruction Staff - Aldmeri Dominion - Duchess.
    Marvolo-jo Riddle - Khajiit - Necromancer - Destruction Staff - Aldmeri Dominion - Deadlands Firewalker.
    Obara Woods - Bosmer - Templar - Bow - Werewolf - Aldmeri Dominion - Cheerful.

  • Thalidar
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    Apologies if someone's already mentioned this but,

    The end game/outcome on this makes absolutely no sense to me. We only have 9-10 days to achieve it, yet anyone with Summerset gets the reward even though they may not have contributed to the end goal. IE: just by logging in. Not only that, they have another week after the event to log in.

    Where's the incentive for people to make the effort to actually do it. In other words, I have Summerset, yet don't have to contribute to getting these rewards, as I'll get them anyway. At this stage they already get a pony, probably a horse and even better, ESO is possibly giving me a villa because I have the Summerset chapter.

    Sorry, but this seems really, really weird to me. Either the marketing/events department had a late night party when they came up with this idea, or they really have no idea about what players will, and won't spend there time on. A casual player isn't likely to even bother doing this as theirs no reason to if they only play 2-3 hours a week. Dungeons give way better rewards, and they get this events rewards anyway just by logging into the game.

    So yes very, very, weird.

    Am I missing something?

    (and yes I've done my part for the team)

    Thalidar
    Edited by Thalidar on September 23, 2018 8:00AM
  • fred4
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    Sorry, I don't have time to read the whole thread. The purpose of the event is entirely unclear to me. We reach 100%, everyone gets the house? Cause the way I figured, based on the fact that the house is not in the crown store, the Pathfinder achievement is probably the unlock. I guessed you still had to pay, like, 15K crowns for it ... or not?

    Anyway. If it's truly 100% - every last person who bought Summerset - it's not going to happen and ZOS very well know that. I'm a PvPer who owns Summerset and am only dimly aware of things like this. I usually click through the in-game ads without reading. Well, I'm here, but there will be people on holidays or who won't care.
  • whisperity
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    fred4 wrote: »
    Anyway. If it's truly 100% - every last person who bought Summerset - it's not going to happen and ZOS very well know that.

    It has been confirmed already (also on the official page of the event) that the 100% does not mean everyone who ever owned Summerset (or the game itself for that matter).
  • Danikat
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    Yes! We can do it!
    Thalidar wrote: »
    Apologies if someone's already mentioned this but,

    The end game/outcome on this makes absolutely no sense to me. We only have 9-10 days to achieve it, yet anyone with Summerset gets the reward even though they may not have contributed to the end goal. IE: just by logging in. Not only that, they have another week after the event to log in.

    Where's the incentive for people to make the effort to actually do it. In other words, I have Summerset, yet don't have to contribute to getting these rewards, as I'll get them anyway. At this stage they already get a pony, probably a horse and even better, ESO is possibly giving me a villa because I have the Summerset chapter.

    Sorry, but this seems really, really weird to me. Either the marketing/events department had a late night party when they came up with this idea, or they really have no idea about what players will, and won't spend there time on. A casual player isn't likely to even bother doing this as theirs no reason to if they only play 2-3 hours a week. Dungeons give way better rewards, and they get this events rewards anyway just by logging into the game.

    So yes very, very, weird.

    Am I missing something?

    (and yes I've done my part for the team)

    Thalidar

    What you're missing is that's a risky strategy with minimal benefit, at least for someone who wants the house. It could work - but only if most people don't do it - if everyone thought the same way then no one gets the house, and there's no way to tell what the majority of people are doing.

    And what benefit do they get from refusing to participate themselves? They save a few minutes of their time. It took me 30 minutes to do this solo on the NA server, on a level 5 character with an untrained mount, following the map on the on the website. It would have taken me slightly less time on EU where I normally play, but I was taking my time with that one and gathering crafting materials along the way (I even stopped to do one of the Geyser events) so I can't say for sure.

    So I think the only people likely to do that are ones who genuinely don't care if they get the house or not, and don't care if anyone else does either. (There will of course be other people who don't participate for other reasons, but I'm not counting them here.)
    fred4 wrote: »
    Sorry, I don't have time to read the whole thread. The purpose of the event is entirely unclear to me. We reach 100%, everyone gets the house? Cause the way I figured, based on the fact that the house is not in the crown store, the Pathfinder achievement is probably the unlock. I guessed you still had to pay, like, 15K crowns for it ... or not?

    Anyway. If it's truly 100% - every last person who bought Summerset - it's not going to happen and ZOS very well know that. I'm a PvPer who owns Summerset and am only dimly aware of things like this. I usually click through the in-game ads without reading. Well, I'm here, but there will be people on holidays or who won't care.

    If we get the house it will be free for everyone who has Summerset. This is basically a more complicated version of when they put Morrowind on sale and then gave the Nix-ox mount to anyone who bought it before the sale ended (including those who already owned it). Same idea but with 3 possible rewards and an additional step for us.

    And no, it's not 100% of people who owned Summerset (or 100% of people in the game). They just didn't want to use actual numbers because then that could be used by players and other interested parties to estimate the active population of the game and ZOS don't want us to know that (especially via an estimate based on incomplete data).

    If you believe ZOS then they looked at the number of people who own Summerset, the number of people who have already completed pathfinder and probably the number of people who bought it last time it was discounted, and worked out what they think is a reasonable target. If you don't believe ZOS then you've got a whole range of conspiracy theories to choose from - some claiming we'll get the house no matter what, some claiming we cannot get the house no matter what and some claiming it's dependant on something entirely different to what they've told us.
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  • Hoolielulu
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    Nope (Don't be negative)
    Thalidar wrote: »
    Apologies if someone's already mentioned this but,

    The end game/outcome on this makes absolutely no sense to me. We only have 9-10 days to achieve it, yet anyone with Summerset gets the reward even though they may not have contributed to the end goal. IE: just by logging in. Not only that, they have another week after the event to log in.

    Where's the incentive for people to make the effort to actually do it. In other words, I have Summerset, yet don't have to contribute to getting these rewards, as I'll get them anyway. At this stage they already get a pony, probably a horse and even better, ESO is possibly giving me a villa because I have the Summerset chapter.

    Sorry, but this seems really, really weird to me. Either the marketing/events department had a late night party when they came up with this idea, or they really have no idea about what players will, and won't spend there time on. A casual player isn't likely to even bother doing this as theirs no reason to if they only play 2-3 hours a week. Dungeons give way better rewards, and they get this events rewards anyway just by logging into the game.

    So yes very, very, weird.

    Am I missing something?

    (and yes I've done my part for the team)

    Thalidar

    "If everyone is bringing food to the party I don't have to because I'll get there and there will be food to eat." If everyone thought like this there would be no food.

    Every player who thinks they'll log on and just get the house is hurting their chances of logging on and just getting the house.
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