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Solariken wrote: »

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Solariken wrote: »

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Solariken wrote: »

How about no. Different abilities are different, stop asking to homogenize everything especially via nerfs.

A shield is a shield.

No it isn't. Read Rob Garrett's comments in the dev tracker. The two affected shields we're targeted because they allow you to shirk having to make offensive sacrifices for better survivability.

Many other shields are health based, proc based, ultimates, etc. They don't compare to sorc Ward and Annulment which scale on offensive stats and are essentially spammable.

Here is a little bit of knowledge for you and Rob.... sorcs in PVP weren't spec'ing full damage. Most ran 2 sustain sets plus a set like EG, BS, or Pirate skeleton. If a sorc was spec'ing full damage odds are they either had a pocket healer or ran in a zerg.

Please explain how you kill anyone with a brain wearing two sustain sets and EG. In orther words, the sorcs you describe are the zerg surfers.

Incorrect. A lot of sorcs in BGs wear at least one defensive/sustain set (often in impen), as shields are weaker in no CP, everyone and their mother is wearing Sloads/Shieldbreaker, and you don’t have the extra magicka that goes with having CP active. My sorc will literally have NO defence in BGs when the shield nerf goes live, as we have no burst heals and can only streak 2-4 times tops, depending on our magicka pools prior to going on the defensive. My only real option to stay alive for longer than a few seconds when up against a player of equal skill would be to put on heavy armour and equip a sword and shield, effectively destroying my mage class and replacing it with a tank. The other option is to respec as an annoying pet sorc and exploit the targeting issues that a screen full of pets presents to opposing players — essentially a zero challenge easy-mode build.

I think I’ll just play another game instead.

True. This will actually make sorcs have to face a few more deaths in battlegrounds rather than going 18/0/12, as is the case now. Yes, this will most likely put you in place with the rest of the classes in terms of kill/death ratio, including magblades who's shield will also have a cast time.

What's not true is that you still have defense. Shields aren't disappearing, you just need to cast them smarter.


How horrible....

Cast shields “smarter,” you say? Pre-buffing with a shield ain’t going to help me when I get jumped by a group of NBs who just pop out of stealth and crit away my “smartly” casted shield in a second. By the time I streak to try to get another shield up (assuming I haven’t been interrupted several times), I’m already dead. The same scenario would not apply to a NB, who’s able to pop in and out of stealth at will with no penalty whatsoever.

Also, any sorc who’s up against a skilled player who knows how to counter sorcs WILL die. Sorcs only dominate BGs with no deaths when they’re up against noobs and mediocre players.

Sounds like you just hate sorcs and aren’t willing to see things from our perspective. *shrug*

I'm a day one sorc, main a sorc, and will continue to main a sorc after this debacle. I don't hate sorcs, I love them. I've posted videos and screen shots plenty of times playing my sorc. I'm not going to do it every single time I don't agree with another sorc who thinks my opinion shouldn't differ from thiers. I only use one shield on my PvP sorc, and I do fine. I've taken my PVE geared sorc into battlegrounds, no changes from my PvE set up.. https://imgur.com/kwh4YTp I did just fine. Sorcs were overperforming. I'm in favor of a more balanced approach, not dominating. I shouldn't go 16/5 in PvE gear with PvE skills on my bar. Even against "noobs" It's ridiculous. Your "you just hate sorcs" comment perfectly illustrates the hysteria people are having because you might actually die next patch. I say good. Challenges are welcome.

What I hate is the doom and gloom mentality. I'm not giving up on my sorc, no matter if you agree with me or not.

Stop assuming everyone who doesn't agree with you hates the class. I don't. I just don't think the sky is falling, or think I shouldn't be able to die. This change is good, if only to weed out the truly skilled sorcs from the FotM sorcs in Summerset.