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  • OutLaw_Nynx
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    karekiz wrote: »
    Dark Souls isn’t hard. It’s hard when you have zero clue what you’re doing. Please don’t compare the two. You learn from your mistakes with the Soulsborne series. I wish people would stop whining. Learn to play without a shield, stam characters do just fine.

    So basically nerf/change vigour from Stam DPS is what you are saying? I see no reason why vigour can't have a 1 second cast time as well.


    Sure. I’d learn how to play with it. I play all classes.
    Edited by OutLaw_Nynx on September 19, 2018 1:01AM
  • D0PAMINE
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    I made 4 magsorcs in the past 6 months...

    maybe i should do like some of you folks and just keep 2 versions of each class instead of making stuff i have fun with.

    Thats what I did.
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    Ilithyania wrote: »
    Jinchuu wrote: »
    Is he Romanian, Czech or Swedish? I'm struggling to place the accent.

    The changes also murder more than just sorcs.

    Heard him speak german once, but i dont think its his native language :)

    Swiss or Hungary maybe ?

    Lol Swiss is not a language. In Switzerland they speak German and French. Alcast is Swiss German.
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  • FrancisCrawford
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    I made 4 magsorcs in the past 6 months...

    maybe i should do like some of you folks and just keep 2 versions of each class instead of making stuff i have fun with.

    I have 3 of each class, and level them up enough in crafting, horse skills, etc. that I don't regard them as deletable. The race choices aren't perfect in most cases, but I also haven't minmaxed enough to mind, and if I DID mind enough I could spare the crowns for my first-ever race-change token.

    Characters I've completed at least 10 dungeons each with include 3 magicka sorcerers, 3 magicka templars, a magicka warden, a magblade, and a stamblade.

    My current top characters are:
    • A Breton sorcerer who was my original overland main, is 19 quests away from "Tamriel Hero", is my main crafter, and is my only non-templar to heal a DLC dungeon. He will be retired when shields get cast times.
    • An Altmer sorcerer who was my first character to Undaunted 9. He too will be retired.
    • A Breton templar, who is the only character on whom I've completed a vet DLC dungeon.
    • A Bosmer nightblade who's become my overland main because I prefer a sneaky style of play.

    Edited by FrancisCrawford on September 19, 2018 1:10AM
  • Nova Sky
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    Heh. There's a reason I've *always* subscribed to ESO Plus on a month-to-month basis.

    These magicka changes, combined with some really nice games coming out in October and November, might finally cinch the deal — two to six months away from ESO, and maybe a check-it-out-again come late winter/early spring.
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  • FrancisCrawford
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    Jinchuu wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    As a healing templar who has played since beta I can not find any sympathy. Not trolling, templars were crucified by nerfs early in this game and imo this is still not as bad as back then for sorcs now. It is part of the balancing cycle. Time to accept that, This too shall pass.

    What a moronic mentality. "Herp derp they mad bad changes in the past that affected my class so instead of opposing bad changes I'm just going to bury my head in the sand while they make more."

    Templars have ALWAYS been good for healing. They got destroyed for DPS and, not coincidentally, they are rarely played in PvE DPS roles now.

    The difference this time is sorcerers have no roles left for which they're either fun or strong, let alone both.
  • FrancisCrawford
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    Valrien wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
    Chill you titts, they probably gonna revert the change and buff sorcs instead

    LOL, that's rich. I can't even remember the last proper sorc buff

    Pets have been buffed multiple times. Nothing else about sorcerers has gotten useful buffs, but that has genuinely happened.
  • FrancisCrawford
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    Astrid_V wrote: »
    What's the point of this whole Class Rep system if ZOS don't even care what they say?

    Because they can point to it and claim they do pay attention whenever topics like this come up.

    At the end of the day it doesnt matter what the intention was behind the feedback, its what they do with that feedback that matters. Class Reps were never going to solve the issue of ZOS making terrible decisions. Having their ear on these things doesnt mean theyll agree to those Reps logic or insight. Only that they can parade it around when people become dissatisfied with the ultimate decisions being made at ZOS.

    When the class reps recently said a shield nerf was coming, they were very clear that this was NOT their idea.
  • Elsonso
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    He might be right that this change won't make it to live. I am figuring that it will.

    This change was known and approved by a whole bunch of management types. I assume that includes the new Gameplay lead, and box full of Producers and Directors. They likely played on the internal servers every day. I think that not only is this cast time change intentional, it is so intentional that they will not give it up without a fight. It is what they want to do.

    I think what they will do is focus on the "by the time it is cast, it is too late" and, in PTS patch 4.2.2, cut the cast time by 25% or something. Maybe 50%. Perhaps increase the cost, or decrease the duration, to compensate for the reduced cast time.

    Edit: I agree that this seems counter-intuitive to a dynamic combat.
    Edited by Elsonso on September 19, 2018 1:20AM
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  • FrancisCrawford
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Same for NB, who will, pay attention to what I'm saying now, get nerfed for real soon, just like sorcs were.

    Magblades ARE being nerfed in Murkmire, hard. But unlike sorcerers, magblades are going into this patch overpowered. Also, they've been more fun to play than sorcerers for quite a while.
  • rumple9
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    Zos should stop messing with the game and concentrate on fixing the servers instead
  • ArchMikem
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    Akimbro wrote: »
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    Is "member of Hodor" supposed to mean something to me? Or "top PvE player"?

    God all this over just a cast time for shields. Maybe take this as a reason to not build so squishy?

    clueless

    The word you meant is woke.
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  • IZZEFlameLash
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    Lots of clueless people say this change is fine. It really isn't. And I am not even a Sorc main or use shields on my main. If these changes make it live, competent players are better off playing other games.
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Akimbro wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Is "member of Hodor" supposed to mean something to me? Or "top PvE player"?

    God all this over just a cast time for shields. Maybe take this as a reason to not build so squishy?

    clueless

    The word you meant is woke.

    Rather joke than woke. A term primarily used for afro-american racial awareness looks a bit off in this case.
  • Jayman1000
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    Jinchuu wrote: »
    Is he Romanian, Czech or Swedish? I'm struggling to place the accent.

    The changes also murder more than just sorcs.

    Not Swedish, definately some Easter European country, like Romania, Czech, could possibly even be Russian in case he learned to control his Russian accent.
  • mattaeus01b16_ESO
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    JESUS CHRIST THIS MAG SORCS FUNNY HOW HE SAYS MAG SORCS NOT MAGICKA CLASSES BEST CHANGE EVER
    And all this ppl who cannot accept that time has come to give up ur godship are crying and treatening to leave the game just leave it already noone will miss you we non elite community of non sorcerers will have fun playing our game and we will get more better and greater community without you thx. Zenimax finnaly stood up and did something about this shieldstacking bs. Good job zos about time. ty

    I dont know what Jesus had to do with it. But other classes can STILL SHIELD STACK. Hell, in PvE my DK tank to get a 62k shield. And thats all insta cast. But they didnt nerf that.And Godship? WTF is all I have to say to that, about Magsorcs....
    Player 1 "You all suck, dont you know how to play this game?"
    Player 2 "Huh?"
    Player 1 "just run passed everything!"
    Player 3 "We could just kill them on the way"
    Player 4 "Why am I 89% of total DPS, one of the only ones that Qued as DPS, and yet in a group with 3 other DPS that cant seem to kill the basic mobs in a normal dungeon, and being told I suck?"
    Player 1 "Whatever, GFL"
    Player 1 has left the group...
  • Juju_beans
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    karekiz wrote: »
    Dark Souls isn’t hard. It’s hard when you have zero clue what you’re doing. Please don’t compare the two. You learn from your mistakes with the Soulsborne series. I wish people would stop whining. Learn to play without a shield, stam characters do just fine.

    So basically nerf/change vigour from Stam DPS is what you are saying? I see no reason why vigour can't have a 1 second cast time as well.

    vigor is an HOT, not insta cast heal.

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    I don't always agree with alcast... i feel like his bis builds and the droves of mindless copycat players are the reason classes get nerfed. he says its bis everyone goes to be that class and then zos goes hmmm we got too many of that class lets nerf it so they others seem more interesting by comparison.
  • XxCaLxX
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    JESUS CHRIST THIS MAG SORCS FUNNY HOW HE SAYS MAG SORCS NOT MAGICKA CLASSES BEST CHANGE EVER
    And all this ppl who cannot accept that time has come to give up ur godship are crying and treatening to leave the game just leave it already noone will miss you we non elite community of non sorcerers will have fun playing our game and we will get more better and greater community without you thx. Zenimax finnaly stood up and did something about this shieldstacking bs. Good job zos about time. ty

    Another cancerous post. Idk for sure but I’m assuming you’re a pvp player since you are whining about shield stacking? You do realize there is a lot more pve content than pvp in this game right? You might be happy bob can get his shield up in time in pvp and you can kill him because that’s the only defense he has but when he’s carrying you ass through a vet dungeon you would wish he’d still been able to instant cast his shield. I don’t give two sh*ts about the changes in pvp, sounds fair honestly but when/if all those ppl you say bye bye to do leave for a different game then someone will miss them because the pvp players can’t keep this game afloat. 95% of the ppl that say they’re gonna leave won’t because they’re elder scrolls fans. I can say this though on Xbox other than eso the other only half decent mmo is neverwinter? When/if another good mmo comes to Xbox then ZOS beware.
  • karekiz
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    Juju_beans wrote: »

    vigor is an HOT, not insta cast heal.

    Your point?

    Tank + 3 DPS with vigour basically makes healers void. If I am say a non pet sorc. Then I don't run matriarch. Which means I only have shields as my self defense. I would easily take a Magika version of current vigour over cast time shields.
    Edited by karekiz on September 19, 2018 3:36AM
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    Skander wrote: »
    Chill you titts, they probably gonna revert the change and buff sorcs instead

    LOL the old curse treatment. Nerf it to hell, then change their mind and have it hit twice.

    So now shields will recast themselves after they run out.
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    mr_wazzabi wrote: »
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    Is he Romanian, Czech or Swedish? I'm struggling to place the accent.

    The changes also murder more than just sorcs.

    Heard him speak german once, but i dont think its his native language :)

    Swiss or Hungary maybe ?

    In Switzerland they speak German and French.
    There are 4 languages in Switzerland, German, French, Italian and Romansh. ;)
    Edited by Leogon on September 19, 2018 5:29AM
  • Cadbury
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    Ozazz wrote: »
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    Alcast is getting good with the clickbait I must say.

    To be fair, it's not like other ESO streamers weren't any less guilty...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yZxFVvCiXU

    to be fair Deltia for saw the future of this game and the direction as well as sypher and king Richard, what do they all have in common??? lmfao we should of all took the memo!

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  • Rak_am
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    scalecaller peak vet HM with a 3s cast shield.... loooool
    zenimax, FIX THE GAME
  • RodneyRegis
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    Cadbury wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    Alcast is getting good with the clickbait I must say.

    To be fair, it's not like other ESO streamers weren't any less guilty...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yZxFVvCiXU

    I actually thought of that video the INSTANT I read this thread title lol

    I wonder if alcast will flounce as well?
  • ArchMikem
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Akimbro wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Is "member of Hodor" supposed to mean something to me? Or "top PvE player"?

    God all this over just a cast time for shields. Maybe take this as a reason to not build so squishy?

    clueless

    The word you meant is woke.

    Rather joke than woke. A term primarily used for afro-american racial awareness looks a bit off in this case.

    A+ for being able to rhyme.
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  • Navras
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    mr_wazzabi wrote: »
    Ilithyania wrote: »
    Jinchuu wrote: »
    Is he Romanian, Czech or Swedish? I'm struggling to place the accent.

    The changes also murder more than just sorcs.

    Heard him speak german once, but i dont think its his native language :)

    Swiss or Hungary maybe ?

    Lol Swiss is not a language. In Switzerland they speak German and French. Alcast is Swiss German.


    We speak Italian too, but no one gives a f--- :)
    Back on topic, I agree with Alcast 100%
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  • Ozazz
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    this game will die and for good reasons :)
    absolutely not a single logical reason for any of these radical changes, other than to favor the mass. Truly disgusting
    Edited by Ozazz on September 19, 2018 7:57AM
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
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    Alcast is getting good with the clickbait I must say.

    Given then fact that you actively stream/YouTube, your comment comes off as a bit self-serving (a.k.a. petty and a bit cat-y).

    lol. Maybe if I did anything even remotely similar to Alcast. Builds/clickbait and generally anything that has to do with combat and balance are not my area at all. Don't worry :)
    Can we have a MissBizz reads patch notes video? :trollface:

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    So you’re up for it?

    Not trolling

    Well I mean if you want to hear a high pitched girl scream out of excitement of being able to move your characters around in character select, along with some really misinformed (and not really caringly) mentions of balance changes, SURE! lol Oh, I'd probably have a rant about the tail things with scales not deserving their own dlc too but...

    ;)
    Not going to lie, I would totally watch that.
    It's like how in the UK we have the alternative Christmas message, or alternative sports commentary. They can be alternative patch note readings.
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  • Ilithyania
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    Ozazz wrote: »
    this game will die and for good reasons :)
    absolutely not a single logical reason for any of these radical changes, other than to favor the mass. Truly disgusting

    there are far worse and smaller MMOs out there still alive these days.

    Far from dead. not even F2P yet :):)
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