Did ZOS Just Kill Solo Play With This One Set?

Septimus_Magna · September 2018

Soris wrote: »

If this goes live like this, they will probably nerf it in next patch. Like sloads.. Then another broken set will be introduced in next patch. Cancer never ends.

People will run this set with Sloads.

Soris · September 2018

Even more cancer for your flavour!

/sigh

templesus · September 2018

StaticWave wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

for a long time, (years even) we see people insta healing from 3% health and almost dead to INSTANT health 100% full.
something needed to be done, it looks like a very good step in the right direction.

Sometimes I wonder why I get warning from mods.

Oh wait I remember! It's because I and many others get punished for calling out the clueless people behind comments like these

Just a warning? I got a 3 day suspension because I called for him to be removed from forums altogether.

Mystrius_Archaion · September 2018

Yeah, this new "healing negation" can't stack, like from psijic skill Time Stop also, or it will be far too powerful in a group focus situation or even with one player using this set and that Time Stop.

This is just so obviously overpowered while defile worked because it was percentage based so it didn't take everything from healing, though defile could still use a cap on how much it can debuff healing and health regen so as not to be too good when that is the only defense a tanky character has with no damage.

An_An · September 2018

How surprising, an over performing set behind a paywall... it kills me that this *** marketing tactic works ...

ZOS, in the off chance any of you are actually reading this , this mentality is why folks are leaving for better MMOs

Dojohoda · September 2018

Note to self: Stay out of melee range.

Chilly-McFreeze · September 2018

Dojohoda wrote: »

Note to self: Stay out of melee range.

Note to myself: Stay out of ESO.

Mazbt · September 2018

Needs a longer cooldown. It's going to be too strong. I can picture troll gank groups utilizing this set and screwing over passing solers or pugs. Please consider changes to this set ZOS.

SosRuvaak · September 2018

this is literally going to make pvp pointless.
you are going to see a massive increase in people playing oneshot skill builds just to avoid *** like this, because whats the point of being in combat, actually fighting someone, when you have no healing to continue the battle? its going to proc when on the second or 3rd attack when you will be needing to heal most. this is the silliest set to ever come to this game, really who ever designed it needs to be fired or atleast smacked in the face.
might as well become a onetrick oneshotter, right?

PureEnvelope35 · September 2018

An_An wrote: »

How surprising, an over performing set behind a paywall... it kills me that this *** marketing tactic works ...

ZOS, in the off chance any of you are actually reading this , this mentality is why folks are leaving for better MMOs

It's a reward's for the worthy set, which makes it easily accessible.

LeifErickson · September 2018

Was anyone able to test if it stacks? Hopefully I can find time to test that today if not.

NBrookus · September 2018

LeifErickson wrote: »

Was anyone able to test if it stacks? Hopefully I can find time to test that today if not.

Since it's not a named debuff, I'm going to say yes. And I bet it stacks with Time Stop as well.

HankTwo · September 2018

BuildMan wrote: »

HankTwo wrote: »

Assuming the healing denied isn't halved by battlespirit it's another ridiculous set. ZOS, why do you feel the need to introduce op sets to sell your DLCs? Aren't they worth it otherwise?

I thought it was a reward for the worthy set. So won’t it be available to anyone in Cyrodiil?

Holy hell man, you are right! Which is even worse because it means there is no agenda, ZOS is really that clueless about set balance… Seriously wth is this combat balance team doing?

olsborg · September 2018

Stamicka wrote: »

The real question is "Did ZOS just kill the game with one patch?"

They did kill magsorc, thats for sure. I mean, a class has been nerfed before and ppl (and myself) have cried "this is the end" , but now for the first time im not saying it with a hint of joke, its dead serious. I dont see a way for magsorcs to function in pvp if these changes goes live.

Soldier of Anguish set is clearly too strong, nothing like that should ever exist in pvp, defile is bad enough.

Beardimus · September 2018

LeifErickson wrote: »

Was anyone able to test if it stacks? Hopefully I can find time to test that today if not.

If it does they have issues, and it will kill solo / small scale play.

I'm generally confused about the direction taken on so many points in the notes I dont really know where to start.

NBrookus · September 2018

Solo play isn't dead. You can still be a stamblade ganker AND use this set!

For everyone else, solo was already dead. You could try to find a few potatoes in a manageable number (rare), put on a duel build and hop up and down outside an outpost and hope you get to fight one or two people before getting zerged, or zerg surf, which isn't solo at all.

Syhae · September 2018

NBrookus wrote: »

Solo play isn't dead. You can still be a stamblade ganker AND use this set!

For everyone else, solo was already dead. You could try to find a few potatoes in a manageable number (rare), put on a duel build and hop up and down outside an outpost and hope you get to fight one or two people before getting zerged, or zerg surf, which isn't solo at all.

Solo wasn't dead this patch, in fact it was finally starting to get to a position where it was enjoyable.
This set will put the nail in the coffin and cause a lot of people to quit the game if it doesn't get changed.

Gilvoth · September 2018

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Xsorus · September 2018

Solo wasn't dead during Sloads and it won't be dead because of this set either.

Gilvoth · September 2018

Xsorus wrote: »

Solo wasn't dead during Sloads and it won't be dead because of this set either.

exactly, the changes this patch are serious trouble, has nothing to do with this set.

Elrond87 · September 2018

that with borrowed time psijic skill Enemies that are stunned have the next 5000 points of healing completely negated for 3 seconds.

crazy_catman21 · September 2018

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

how many people you think will actually be wearing this set?
most people are allready happy with thier sets and probly wont make a change.

Pls just deactivate your forum account. The last person I’d ever want the dev team to listen to is you.

Xvorg · September 2018

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

how many people you think will actually be wearing this set?
most people are allready happy with thier sets and probly wont make a change.

You sure?

Same happened with Sload's... who could ever think about dropping riposte, spriggan's or 7th legion, for a crafted set?

Xvorg · September 2018

Jamdarius wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

Soldier of Anguish (Medium)
2: Weapon Damage
3: Weapon Critical
4: Weapon Damage
5: When you deal damage with a melee attack, you have a 25% chance to traumatize your enemy, negating their next 5500 points of healing for 4 seconds. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.

It's not a named buff/debuff which I would think means it can stack. Fighting even two people with this set basically means you can't heal. I don't have PTS downloaded yet, but if this set stacks then honestly solo play might be dead. Defiles are horrible solo, but think about if you just straight up can't heal at all. Even fighting one person with this set would be absolutely brutal. I will need to test on PTS when I get it downloaded, but first impressions tell me this might be the end to solo play. Someone please convince me I'm wrong.

Stam Sorc comes, Stam Sorc casts negate, stam sorc hits with the set, it procs, enemies dead on ANY breach, especially mag users.

Saddly, negate costs a big chunk of stam.

Better combine it with Borrowed time and a Bombard/Acid spray

sabresandiego_ESO · September 2018

Nobody says anything when they add a bunch of useless sets, but if they add a good set everyone has an uproar. This is because most simpletons have trouble adapting to anything new. "Damnit, ive been using seventh legion and bloodspawn for years, don't make me change my character!"

Im sorry, this set look like a very cool mechanic and I am looking forward to using it. The only thing that looks even potentially overpowered to me is if it stacks with multiple people.

BigBadVolk · September 2018

sabresandiego_ESO wrote: »

Nobody says anything when they add a bunch of useless sets, but if they add a good set everyone has an uproar. This is because most simpletons have trouble adapting to anything new. "Damnit, ive been using seventh legion and bloodspawn for years, don't make me change my character!"

Im sorry, this set look like a very cool mechanic and I am looking forward to using it. The only thing that looks even potentially overpowered to me is if it stacks with multiple people.

those sets useless one part because these no skill sets outright beat them, and this one wont have counter play, Shields like the sorc and LA one will be outright useless, resto its already dissapearing with a minimum of damage, also because it negates healings ( every) no one will survive it with coupling it with dots and defile/bleeds or even oblivion damage, purge maybe, but tbh thats a *** rng filled counterplay

sabresandiego_ESO · September 2018

BigBadVolk wrote: »

sabresandiego_ESO wrote: »

Nobody says anything when they add a bunch of useless sets, but if they add a good set everyone has an uproar. This is because most simpletons have trouble adapting to anything new. "Damnit, ive been using seventh legion and bloodspawn for years, don't make me change my character!"

Im sorry, this set look like a very cool mechanic and I am looking forward to using it. The only thing that looks even potentially overpowered to me is if it stacks with multiple people.

those sets useless one part because these no skill sets outright beat them, and this one wont have counter play, Shields like the sorc and LA one will be outright useless, resto its already dissapearing with a minimum of damage, also because it negates healings ( every) no one will survive it with coupling it with dots and defile/bleeds or even oblivion damage, purge maybe, but tbh thats a *** rng filled counterplay

Ofcourse this set has counterplay. Its called damage shields. Stamina characters have them too. Slot a psijic ability. If you are being hit by multiple people wearing this set, use LOS and have your healer put a ward on you.

There is plenty of counterplay. People just refuse to adapt and would rather cry

LeifErickson · September 2018

sabresandiego_ESO wrote: »

BigBadVolk wrote: »

sabresandiego_ESO wrote: »

Nobody says anything when they add a bunch of useless sets, but if they add a good set everyone has an uproar. This is because most simpletons have trouble adapting to anything new. "Damnit, ive been using seventh legion and bloodspawn for years, don't make me change my character!"

Im sorry, this set look like a very cool mechanic and I am looking forward to using it. The only thing that looks even potentially overpowered to me is if it stacks with multiple people.

those sets useless one part because these no skill sets outright beat them, and this one wont have counter play, Shields like the sorc and LA one will be outright useless, resto its already dissapearing with a minimum of damage, also because it negates healings ( every) no one will survive it with coupling it with dots and defile/bleeds or even oblivion damage, purge maybe, but tbh thats a *** rng filled counterplay

Ofcourse this set has counterplay. Its called damage shields. Stamina characters have them too. Slot a psijic ability. If you are being hit by multiple people wearing this set, use LOS and have your healer put a ward on you.

There is plenty of counterplay. People just refuse to adapt and would rather cry

Please tell me you are trolling.

Joy_Division · September 2018

nvm, see above.

BigBadVolk · September 2018

LeifErickson wrote: »

sabresandiego_ESO wrote: »

BigBadVolk wrote: »

sabresandiego_ESO wrote: »

Nobody says anything when they add a bunch of useless sets, but if they add a good set everyone has an uproar. This is because most simpletons have trouble adapting to anything new. "Damnit, ive been using seventh legion and bloodspawn for years, don't make me change my character!"

Im sorry, this set look like a very cool mechanic and I am looking forward to using it. The only thing that looks even potentially overpowered to me is if it stacks with multiple people.

those sets useless one part because these no skill sets outright beat them, and this one wont have counter play, Shields like the sorc and LA one will be outright useless, resto its already dissapearing with a minimum of damage, also because it negates healings ( every) no one will survive it with coupling it with dots and defile/bleeds or even oblivion damage, purge maybe, but tbh thats a *** rng filled counterplay

Ofcourse this set has counterplay. Its called damage shields. Stamina characters have them too. Slot a psijic ability. If you are being hit by multiple people wearing this set, use LOS and have your healer put a ward on you.

There is plenty of counterplay. People just refuse to adapt and would rather cry

Please tell me you are trolling.

I dont think so