Did ZOS Just Kill Solo Play With This One Set?

leepalmer95 · September 2018

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

nothing wrong with healing to full health, but when it's INSTANT from 3% to immediately FULL 100% health it ruins pvp.
people have been complaining about that for Years.

and i agree with those complaints.

edit:
i wouldn't wory about this though just from an armor set.
1 person wearing that set wont be much of a problem, your complaint was about multiple people wearing that set and i bet that will be a rare event to find multiple people wearing that same set.

No one heals from 3% to full unless they have like 16k hp.

Stop exaggerating, use defile if people are hitting too hard.

Or just straight up burst them so they can't heal like that.

ATomiX96 · September 2018

leepalmer95 · September 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

If all the changes are the way they seem and go live that’s a wrap for me

Yeah same, i'm just getting sick of the game.

Combat team is clueless, the rep system is pointless. Zos ignore feedback like usual.

They buff stamden which is the strongest pvp class at the moment, of course its a payed one. But games not 'p2w' lmao.

ATomiX96 · September 2018

well my agenda was leave eso for like 4-5 patches in dragon bones because pvp was *** even back then, it will definitly get better.

Oh boy ZOS proved me wrong once again!

From what I see ZOS wants to get rid of the last few people left in the PVP community and shutdown Cyrodiil to merely focus on PvE

DeadlyRecluse · September 2018

If they changed it to direct damage melee attacks only, and reduced the proc chance, it might be okay.

...of course, the game uses different definitions of "melee attack" already, so who knows.

Sun7dance · September 2018

Is it really 5500 hp in pvp or 2250?
I mean healing is healing...

ATomiX96 · September 2018

Sun7dance wrote: »

Is it really 5500 hp in pvp or 2250?
I mean healing is healing...

I highly doubt this will be halved by battle spirit lmfao. Correct me if im wrong but the one Time Stop morph also doesnt get halved and they will probably just take the same assets they took from the ability to behave the same way.

Idinuse · September 2018

scipionumatia wrote: »

reverb is gonna be disgusting with this set. hard cc, with defile, and negated 5500 points of healing. even if your a magplar i think your dead. follow up with an ultimate of your choice.

After enduring the never ending nerfs to Templars, I rerolled to Sorc. It seems to me Zos is making a decision for me pretty easy to make. Either roll a NB or it's pretty much done here. All the performance issues, then add this upcoming garbage patch.

After 4+ years my pain threshold is well transgressed.

ccmedaddy · September 2018

Is it purgeable?

TheYKcid · September 2018

Defiles too strong, nerf defiles.

Very next update, release a set that is functionally equivalent to a second defile that stacks on top of actual defile.

ZOS logic at it's finest. Great ******* work there at the dev team you guys.

ll_Rev · September 2018

yes they did

LeifErickson · September 2018

Bakkagami wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

Soldier of Anguish (Medium)
2: Weapon Damage
3: Weapon Critical
4: Weapon Damage
5: When you deal damage with a melee attack, you have a 25% chance to traumatize your enemy, negating their next 5500 points of healing for 4 seconds. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.

It's not a named buff/debuff which I would think means it can stack. Fighting even two people with this set basically means you can't heal. I don't have PTS downloaded yet, but if this set stacks then honestly solo play might be dead. Defiles are horrible solo, but think about if you just straight up can't heal at all. Even fighting one person with this set would be absolutely brutal. I will need to test on PTS when I get it downloaded, but first impressions tell me this might be the end to solo play. Someone please convince me I'm wrong.

I don't see this set going live without getting nerfed tbh. It will perform even better than duroks in many situations

That's why I'm making this thread. I want to raise awareness for how over powered this set will be. If no one raises awareness for these things they won't get changed.

Ragnarock41 · September 2018

LeifErickson wrote: »

Soldier of Anguish (Medium)
2: Weapon Damage
3: Weapon Critical
4: Weapon Damage
5: When you deal damage with a melee attack, you have a 25% chance to traumatize your enemy, negating their next 5500 points of healing for 4 seconds. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.

It's not a named buff/debuff which I would think means it can stack. Fighting even two people with this set basically means you can't heal. I don't have PTS downloaded yet, but if this set stacks then honestly solo play might be dead. Defiles are horrible solo, but think about if you just straight up can't heal at all. Even fighting one person with this set would be absolutely brutal. I will need to test on PTS when I get it downloaded, but first impressions tell me this might be the end to solo play. Someone please convince me I'm wrong.

question is, is the actual effect halved by battle spirit? If so then its fine. If not then it might be really , really bad.

Joy_Division · September 2018

Thought the same thing when seeing this set.

I like that ZOS tried to be daring and make these new sets stuff we'd use, but this one is over the top.

HankTwo · September 2018

Assuming the healing denied isn't halved by battlespirit it's another ridiculous set. ZOS, why do you feel the need to introduce op sets to sell your DLCs? Aren't they worth it otherwise?

Nyladreas · September 2018

New sloads combined with defile? Lol

Aliyavana · September 2018

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

for a long time, (years even) we see people insta healing from 3% health and almost dead to INSTANT health 100% full.
something needed to be done, it looks like a very good step in the right direction.

Just like you argued similarly for sloads

Casul · September 2018

HankTwo wrote: »

Assuming the healing denied isn't halved by battlespirit it's another ridiculous set. ZOS, why do you feel the need to introduce op sets to sell your DLCs? Aren't they worth it otherwise?

I thought it was a reward for the worthy set. So won’t it be available to anyone in Cyrodiil?

_Salty_ · September 2018

Another stupid set. No idea how they come up with this crap. One patch they reduce defile uptimes then the next they add this.

PureEnvelope35 · September 2018

LeifErickson wrote: »

Soldier of Anguish (Medium)
2: Weapon Damage
3: Weapon Critical
4: Weapon Damage
5: When you deal damage with a melee attack, you have a 25% chance to traumatize your enemy, negating their next 5500 points of healing for 4 seconds. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.

It's not a named buff/debuff which I would think means it can stack. Fighting even two people with this set basically means you can't heal. I don't have PTS downloaded yet, but if this set stacks then honestly solo play might be dead. Defiles are horrible solo, but think about if you just straight up can't heal at all. Even fighting one person with this set would be absolutely brutal. I will need to test on PTS when I get it downloaded, but first impressions tell me this might be the end to solo play. Someone please convince me I'm wrong.

It stacks infinitely, so yaaaay, if this set goes live we're all f***ed

IAVITNI · September 2018

Honestly, I like the set. Gives me another reason to not waste any more time with this game.

Clueless dev team and a community that is so nerf-centric its insane.

I asked for Major Defile to be exchanged for something else (become instant cast, increased damage etc) on Dark Flare and Snipe and people raged saying I was asking for a nerf. The culture here is nerf. The word of the day every day is nerf. If theres a buff there is a counter nerf that is even worse.

They really want to skill solo-play.

Spell Strategist (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Spell Damage
4: Spell Damage
5: When you deal damage with a Light Attack, you place a mark over your target for 5 seconds, granting you 500 Spell Damage against your marked target. This effect can occur every 4 seconds.

Guess who's gonna suffer the most from this set. Hint: It's not the solo player running around the rocks.

Syhae · September 2018

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

Soldier of Anguish (Medium)
2: Weapon Damage
3: Weapon Critical
4: Weapon Damage
5: When you deal damage with a melee attack, you have a 25% chance to traumatize your enemy, negating their next 5500 points of healing for 4 seconds. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.

It's not a named buff/debuff which I would think means it can stack. Fighting even two people with this set basically means you can't heal. I don't have PTS downloaded yet, but if this set stacks then honestly solo play might be dead. Defiles are horrible solo, but think about if you just straight up can't heal at all. Even fighting one person with this set would be absolutely brutal. I will need to test on PTS when I get it downloaded, but first impressions tell me this might be the end to solo play. Someone please convince me I'm wrong.

question is, is the actual effect halved by battle spirit? If so then its fine. If not then it might be really , really bad.

I've heard that it isn't halved by battle spirit, haven't personally tested it.
Real million dollar question though... Does it stack?

StaticWave · September 2018

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

for a long time, (years even) we see people insta healing from 3% health and almost dead to INSTANT health 100% full.
something needed to be done, it looks like a very good step in the right direction.

Sometimes I wonder why I get warning from mods.

Oh wait I remember! It's because I and many others get punished for calling out the clueless people behind comments like these

Minno · September 2018

Delete this set.

In fact, next update don't give any more sets and instead rebalance the crap we already have lol.

ManDraKE · September 2018

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

question is, is the actual effect halved by battle spirit? If so then its fine. If not then it might be really , really bad.

is not a heal neither a damage shield, so most likely not. I cant remember of anything remotly like this being affected by battle spirit. And even if it is, is a really powerful zerg empowering tool.

StaticWave wrote: »

Sometimes I wonder why I get warning from mods.

Oh wait I remember! It's because I and many others get punished for calling out the clueless people behind comments like these

lol

JobooAGS · September 2018

Relequen + this set = you cant heal, welcome to sorc against shieldbreaker world

StaticWave · September 2018

What's gonna be the most broken setup next patch? Sloads backbar + valkyn + master dw front bar+ this new set. BET

NBrookus · September 2018

I tested it. It is NOT halved by Battlespirit.

CyrusArya · September 2018

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

for a long time, (years even) we see people insta healing from 3% health and almost dead to INSTANT health 100% full.
something needed to be done, it looks like a very good step in the right direction.

Oh brother here we go again.

Soris · September 2018

If this goes live like this, they will probably nerf it in next patch. Like sloads.. Then another broken set will be introduced in next patch. Cancer never ends.