Icereach PC NA (Mulaamnir/Kyne/BWB NA PC - Final)

Gederic · September 2018

ShadowMole25 · September 2018

Why does it seem like AD never helps to dethrone DC? EP throws wave after wave at blue keeps trying to dethrone, meanwhile AD seems to do nothing except maybe take BRK and Drake. It's very frustrating to attempt to take Chal, Bleaks, or Aleswell to dethrone while watching AD take Sej or Drake because we can't defend those at the time.

MajBludd · September 2018

What else is new?

Marcus684 · September 2018

ShadowMole25 wrote: »

Why does it seem like AD never helps to dethrone DC? EP throws wave after wave at blue keeps trying to dethrone, meanwhile AD seems to do nothing except maybe take BRK and Drake. It's very frustrating to attempt to take Chal, Bleaks, or Aleswell to dethrone while watching AD take Sej or Drake because we can't defend those at the time.

Overall, I'd say that AD is the weakest alliance at this time, except when AA can form up their zerg. This means that at most other times, AD has a poor chance to take a defended keep, and probably gets tired of wiping at Roe or Nikel, so they turn their attention to easier targets. Every alliance has done this as long as this game has been running. For months on the main vet server (Vicec and it's predecessors), AD would take Ash early in the weekend and just turtle up there, farming D ticks from the poorly-organized DC over and over again. Eventually, we'd give up and turn our attention eastward and bang our heads against Chal, sometimes successfully, usually unsuccessfully, only because we were unable to do anything else. It just seems to be how disorganized players behave in this game.

Beaverton · September 2018

I gets annoying trying to dethrone DC when a few EP players consistently defend the DC keep by picking our players off from behind. I don't know how common it is for AD nightblades to do that to EP but it pretty much happens every time to us.

Adenoma · September 2018

When I was still playing nonvet a couple months ago I'd regularly do that to AD/DC on my EP magblade and to EP/DC on my AD stamblade. Lots of fun and good AP.

Enkil · September 2018

Beaverton wrote: »

I gets annoying trying to dethrone DC when a few EP players consistently defend the DC keep by picking our players off from behind. I don't know how common it is for AD nightblades to do that to EP but it pretty much happens every time to us.

Mindless players on all three factions. We usually tell people to avoid/not attack non-emp faction at last emp keep and focus on dethrone but some players just don’t care and persist. AD snipe spammers are the worst about this I’ve noticed...

Adenoma · September 2018

It's not mindless. It's just folks that don't care about the map and care about finding fights.

Enkil · September 2018

It’s mindless as in reckless, unwise, counter-intuitive, and counter-productive. I realize people don’t care as I mentioned above, but it is still mindless.

Roguish type players are supposed to be highly intellectual and strategic. Is fighting ppl that are obviously there to siege a mutual enemy really all that fun?

Would be smarter for these players to protect the siege position, stalk and kill any defenders coming from other keeps, etc.

ColoursYouHave · September 2018

Enkil wrote: »

It’s mindless as in reckless, unwise, counter-intuitive, and counter-productive. I realize people don’t care as I mentioned above, but it is still mindless.

Roguish type players are supposed to be highly intellectual and strategic. Is fighting ppl that are obviousl there to siege an ether one mutual enemy really all that fun?

Would be smarter for these players to protect the siege position, stalk and kill any defenders coming from other keeps, etc.

If your goal is to find fights, then as long as you're finding fights it isn't counter-intuitive or counter-productive; it is doing exactly what you set out to do. It may be counter-productive to achieving your particular goal, but not everybody is going to share that same goal.

Fur_like_snow · September 2018

I tried Kyne IC last night on a fresh stam sorc and whoa boy do some of those mobs take a beating. The loss of my CP plus not having some core healing skills like crit siege and dark deal plus having to heavy attack for sustain more than I was accustomed too made an interesting challenge. Only saw one other player in the hour I was down there managed to get all the sky shards and about 15k tel var.

Datthaw · September 2018

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

Enkil wrote: »

It’s mindless as in reckless, unwise, counter-intuitive, and counter-productive. I realize people don’t care as I mentioned above, but it is still mindless.

Roguish type players are supposed to be highly intellectual and strategic. Is fighting ppl that are obviousl there to siege an ether one mutual enemy really all that fun?

Would be smarter for these players to protect the siege position, stalk and kill any defenders coming from other keeps, etc.

If your goal is to find fights, then as long as you're finding fights it isn't counter-intuitive or counter-productive; it is doing exactly what you set out to do. It may be counter-productive to achieving your particular goal, but not everybody is going to share that same goal.

Did you just assume his goal?

Datthaw · September 2018

Datthaw wrote: »

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

Enkil wrote: »

It’s mindless as in reckless, unwise, counter-intuitive, and counter-productive. I realize people don’t care as I mentioned above, but it is still mindless.

Roguish type players are supposed to be highly intellectual and strategic. Is fighting ppl that are obviousl there to siege an ether one mutual enemy really all that fun?

Would be smarter for these players to protect the siege position, stalk and kill any defenders coming from other keeps, etc.

If your goal is to find fights, then as long as you're finding fights it isn't counter-intuitive or counter-productive; it is doing exactly what you set out to do. It may be counter-productive to achieving your particular goal, but not everybody is going to share that same goal.

Did you just assume his goal?

Did you just assume Enkil's gender?

Stridig · September 2018

You guys are assuming somebody else is assuming something. I assume you are guys

Raknosh · September 2018

Datthaw wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

Enkil wrote: »

It’s mindless as in reckless, unwise, counter-intuitive, and counter-productive. I realize people don’t care as I mentioned above, but it is still mindless.

Roguish type players are supposed to be highly intellectual and strategic. Is fighting ppl that are obviousl there to siege an ether one mutual enemy really all that fun?

Would be smarter for these players to protect the siege position, stalk and kill any defenders coming from other keeps, etc.

If your goal is to find fights, then as long as you're finding fights it isn't counter-intuitive or counter-productive; it is doing exactly what you set out to do. It may be counter-productive to achieving your particular goal, but not everybody is going to share that same goal.

Did you just assume his goal?

Did you just assume Enkil's gender?

Did you just quote yourself? What a scrub!

Enkil · September 2018

Datthaw wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

Enkil wrote: »

It’s mindless as in reckless, unwise, counter-intuitive, and counter-productive. I realize people don’t care as I mentioned above, but it is still mindless.

Roguish type players are supposed to be highly intellectual and strategic. Is fighting ppl that are obviousl there to siege an ether one mutual enemy really all that fun?

Would be smarter for these players to protect the siege position, stalk and kill any defenders coming from other keeps, etc.

If your goal is to find fights, then as long as you're finding fights it isn't counter-intuitive or counter-productive; it is doing exactly what you set out to do. It may be counter-productive to achieving your particular goal, but not everybody is going to share that same goal.

Did you just assume his goal?

Did you just assume Enkil's gender?

Lmao can I please get a toke??

Enkil · September 2018

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

Enkil wrote: »

It’s mindless as in reckless, unwise, counter-intuitive, and counter-productive. I realize people don’t care as I mentioned above, but it is still mindless.

Roguish type players are supposed to be highly intellectual and strategic. Is fighting ppl that are obviousl there to siege an ether one mutual enemy really all that fun?

Would be smarter for these players to protect the siege position, stalk and kill any defenders coming from other keeps, etc.

If your goal is to find fights, then as long as you're finding fights it isn't counter-intuitive or counter-productive; it is doing exactly what you set out to do. It may be counter-productive to achieving your particular goal, but not everybody is going to share that same goal.

^^Case in point.

ColoursYouHave · September 2018

Enkil wrote: »

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

Enkil wrote: »

It’s mindless as in reckless, unwise, counter-intuitive, and counter-productive. I realize people don’t care as I mentioned above, but it is still mindless.

Roguish type players are supposed to be highly intellectual and strategic. Is fighting ppl that are obviousl there to siege an ether one mutual enemy really all that fun?

Would be smarter for these players to protect the siege position, stalk and kill any defenders coming from other keeps, etc.

If your goal is to find fights, then as long as you're finding fights it isn't counter-intuitive or counter-productive; it is doing exactly what you set out to do. It may be counter-productive to achieving your particular goal, but not everybody is going to share that same goal.

^^Case in point.

Got eem.

Datthaw · September 2018

Raknosh wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

Enkil wrote: »

It’s mindless as in reckless, unwise, counter-intuitive, and counter-productive. I realize people don’t care as I mentioned above, but it is still mindless.

Roguish type players are supposed to be highly intellectual and strategic. Is fighting ppl that are obviousl there to siege an ether one mutual enemy really all that fun?

Would be smarter for these players to protect the siege position, stalk and kill any defenders coming from other keeps, etc.

If your goal is to find fights, then as long as you're finding fights it isn't counter-intuitive or counter-productive; it is doing exactly what you set out to do. It may be counter-productive to achieving your particular goal, but not everybody is going to share that same goal.

Did you just assume his goal?

Did you just assume Enkil's gender?

Did you just quote yourself? What a scrub!

I don't identify as a scrub, I identify as non-talented.

ShenaniganSquad · September 2018

nightblades picking off players focused on another objective is not a "fight".. its assassination, which takes little skill.. nightblades dont fight, they hide in the shadows and murder people, and when a real fight comes to them they disappear and run away.. now dont get me wrong, its the class, its how its played and thats cool.. but dont try to make out like nightblades like to fight, most of them couldnt win a fight out of a paper bag..

An_An · September 2018

ShenaniganSquad wrote: »

nightblades picking off players focused on another objective is not a "fight".. its assassination, which takes little skill.. nightblades dont fight, they hide in the shadows and murder people, and when a real fight comes to them they disappear and run away.. now dont get me wrong, its the class, its how its played and thats cool.. but dont try to make out like nightblades like to fight, most of them couldnt win a fight out of a paper bag..

Not all nbs are burst and run ....

Datthaw · September 2018

ShenaniganSquad wrote: »

nightblades picking off players focused on another objective is not a "fight".. its assassination, which takes little skill.. nightblades dont fight, they hide in the shadows and murder people, and when a real fight comes to them they disappear and run away.. now dont get me wrong, its the class, its how its played and thats cool.. but dont try to make out like nightblades like to fight, most of them couldnt win a fight out of a paper bag..

Pffft so getting in and 1 shoting someone on nb doesn't take skill? That's laughable. Soooooooooo many trashy nb's out make you have that assumption.

Real nb's like to fight

Adenoma · September 2018

I play a NB without invisibility and can one-tap people. I think I like to fight.

Lumsdenml · September 2018

ShenaniganSquad wrote: »

nightblades picking off players focused on another objective is not a "fight".. its assassination, which takes little skill.. nightblades dont fight, they hide in the shadows and murder people, and when a real fight comes to them they disappear and run away.. now dont get me wrong, its the class, its how its played and thats cool.. but dont try to make out like nightblades like to fight, most of them couldnt win a fight out of a paper bag..

I will agree with you that most NB I encounter do not like to fight. They want to assassinate. I disagree, however, that doing so takes little skill. There is no blade of woe in Cyrodiil. There is no one shot that will actually kill a player, regardless of how well you min/max. It does take an understanding of what you are doing and how to do it in order to quickly kill another player before they can respond. Fight? No. Skill? Yes.

For the record, though. I still hate them with all of my heart.

Beaverton · September 2018

I am trying out a nightblade now and can confirm, based on my woeful results, that it takes skill to play. At this point I'm pretty good at killing skeevers, wolves and newbs but how much fun is that?

gabriebe · September 2018

Let's take a moment to collectively mourn the removal of Sorcerer as a class in ESO.

Datthaw · September 2018

gabriebe wrote: »

Let's take a moment to collectively mourn the removal of Sorcerer as a class in ESO.

I haven't read the updates but from what I heard its added cast time to shields? Aparently they tossed this idea around to help pve healers feel viable or something?

gabriebe · September 2018

1 second cast time on all shields.

Shields crittable.

Rune cage doesnt stun on impact, but only after 1.2 seconds if the target didn't dodge.

Removed overload bar.

Some other stuff but yeah, just delete your sorc lol

OH I FORGOT:

You can now interrup a shield apparently.

Stridig · September 2018

They've had a good run.

Lumsdenml · September 2018

gabriebe wrote: »

1 second cast time on all shields.

Shields crittable.

Rune cage doesnt stun on impact, but only after 1.2 seconds if the target didn't dodge.

Removed overload bar.

Some other stuff but yeah, just delete your sorc lol

OH I FORGOT:

You can now interrup a shield apparently.

That's all fine and everything, but did they give any love to magplars?