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issue with login rewards needs to be fixed: end of the month rewards are too hard to obtain
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six2fall✭✭✭✭Takes less than 5 min to log in & collect rewards you dont have to play so it really shouldn't be an issue1 -
Juju_beans✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't always get to log in every day and some months I've missed a few at the end.
But that's how I play.
But there's been some nice rewards inbetween that first and last reward..boxes, costumes, pets, etc.
it's a freebie that no one should be stressing over or demanding that the game be changed to suit their personal play style.
None of those last day rewards are earth shattering or game changing.
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Danikat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thinking about it the simplest 'fix' for me would be a way to hide the login rewards screen so it's not so in your face.
If it wasn't there every time I log in (and when I log out, and sometimes when I switch characters) going "Hey! Look!" Stuff you won't get! Look what you're not allowed because other things happen in your life!" then I could forget about it like the daily quests and the IC event and whatever else I don't have time for.
It would be nice if the item was just mailed to you when you log in and the gigantic spamvertising pop-up was removed. But again I guess that would defeat the point of trying to pressure us to do more and spend more.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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DirkRavenclaw✭✭✭✭I log in every single day, i had one day i couldnt, so i asked a friend to just log in, collect my hirelings mails and so, collected this day as wellCouncil Member of AtWritsEnd, Member of LoneWolfeHelp, Donor of GhostSeaTradingCO., Factor of EastEmpireTradingCO.,HonourGuard of ´DominionImperialGuard(DIG/PVP)
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SirDopey✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's not that difficult to log in every day. I have the game installed on my laptop, while unplayable, it still allows me to log in and claim the reward for the days I'm not home....NA PC | AD
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Zathras✭✭✭✭✭The whole idea of a daily login reward is to reward those who login daily.
The whole idea is to present data to someone to show that in the last quarter of the year logins were drastically increased.
It isn't about who is the most loyal, or who deserves it. It is simply about creating a shiny enough carrot to make people do what they want, so they can get the data they desire.
People have a life. Travel, work, whatever. I agree with the OP.For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen. - Douglas Adams
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Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The whole idea of a daily login reward is to reward those who login daily.
The whole idea is to present data to someone to show that in the last quarter of the year logins were drastically increased.
It isn't about who is the most loyal, or who deserves it. It is simply about creating a shiny enough carrot to make people do what they want, so they can get the data they desire.
People have a life. Travel, work, whatever. I agree with the OP.
Needs to be an alternative for the daily reward claim other than logging into the game, like a side app or something or if you log into the forums with a fresh refresh every day or something2 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Fur_like_snow wrote: »100k is small potatoes not that big of a deal to miss it.
Not to those that just joined the game2 -
Glurin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The whole idea of a daily login reward is to reward those who login daily.
The whole idea is to present data to someone to show that in the last quarter of the year logins were drastically increased.
It isn't about who is the most loyal, or who deserves it. It is simply about creating a shiny enough carrot to make people do what they want, so they can get the data they desire.
People have a life. Travel, work, whatever. I agree with the OP.
Needs to be an alternative for the daily reward claim other than logging into the game, like a side app or something or if you log into the forums with a fresh refresh every day or something
The point of the login reward system is to get you to log into the game and play. An app on your phone or a forum login defeats the purpose.
However, yes, it is frustrating when outside circumstances prevent you from getting those big end of the month rewards. Power outages, bad weather, ISP being lazy, kids, family, work, all kinds of things could happen that prevent you from being able to log in even if just for a few minutes to claim the daily reward."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."3 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The whole idea of a daily login reward is to reward those who login daily.
The whole idea is to present data to someone to show that in the last quarter of the year logins were drastically increased.
It isn't about who is the most loyal, or who deserves it. It is simply about creating a shiny enough carrot to make people do what they want, so they can get the data they desire.
People have a life. Travel, work, whatever. I agree with the OP.
Needs to be an alternative for the daily reward claim other than logging into the game, like a side app or something or if you log into the forums with a fresh refresh every day or something
The point of the login reward system is to get you to log into the game and play. An app on your phone or a forum login defeats the purpose.
However, yes, it is frustrating when outside circumstances prevent you from getting those big end of the month rewards. Power outages, bad weather, ISP being lazy, kids, family, work, all kinds of things could happen that prevent you from being able to log in even if just for a few minutes to claim the daily reward.
You don't need to play though, you can just login claim and logout2 -
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Yes, you get casuals to buy stuff or get so active the go eso+ who is hard to get out off.Why should we be rewarded for not logging in? The purpose of these rewards is for people to log in and there for MIGHT buy something on the crown store. So if you are not logging it in a chance to buy something, then why be rewarded?
Maybe I see this as what it is so I understand. Makes great business sense. Put in more vinegar to attract the flies. Add more honey to make it sweeter.
This has nothing do to about "rewarding" people for playing their game but getting more click bait in a chance since someone is already there they might buy something in the crown store. So if you are not there, then why should you be "rewarded"?
We long term players get a bit of an buff, note that the 100K gold is also something who might change the life of an causal but is irrelevant for long term players, i would prefer more crown crates who give more gems to buy crate stuff.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Glurin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The whole idea of a daily login reward is to reward those who login daily.
The whole idea is to present data to someone to show that in the last quarter of the year logins were drastically increased.
It isn't about who is the most loyal, or who deserves it. It is simply about creating a shiny enough carrot to make people do what they want, so they can get the data they desire.
People have a life. Travel, work, whatever. I agree with the OP.
Needs to be an alternative for the daily reward claim other than logging into the game, like a side app or something or if you log into the forums with a fresh refresh every day or something
The point of the login reward system is to get you to log into the game and play. An app on your phone or a forum login defeats the purpose.
However, yes, it is frustrating when outside circumstances prevent you from getting those big end of the month rewards. Power outages, bad weather, ISP being lazy, kids, family, work, all kinds of things could happen that prevent you from being able to log in even if just for a few minutes to claim the daily reward.
You don't need to play though, you can just login claim and logout
But once your in, why not go ahead and play for a bit? Maybe do some crafting writs or run a quick dungeon. Or maybe even just chat with your guild mates for a little while.
That's what the login reward is for. Just like the sign I saw earlier today that says "free drink with purchase of $20 or more". It's meant to get you in the door. After that they have other means of getting you to stick around and buy things."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."1 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The whole idea of a daily login reward is to reward those who login daily.
The whole idea is to present data to someone to show that in the last quarter of the year logins were drastically increased.
It isn't about who is the most loyal, or who deserves it. It is simply about creating a shiny enough carrot to make people do what they want, so they can get the data they desire.
People have a life. Travel, work, whatever. I agree with the OP.
Needs to be an alternative for the daily reward claim other than logging into the game, like a side app or something or if you log into the forums with a fresh refresh every day or something
The point of the login reward system is to get you to log into the game and play. An app on your phone or a forum login defeats the purpose.
However, yes, it is frustrating when outside circumstances prevent you from getting those big end of the month rewards. Power outages, bad weather, ISP being lazy, kids, family, work, all kinds of things could happen that prevent you from being able to log in even if just for a few minutes to claim the daily reward.
You don't need to play though, you can just login claim and logout
But once your in, why not go ahead and play for a bit? Maybe do some crafting writs or run a quick dungeon. Or maybe even just chat with your guild mates for a little while.
That's what the login reward is for. Just like the sign I saw earlier today that says "free drink with purchase of $20 or more". It's meant to get you in the door. After that they have other means of getting you to stick around and buy things.
But like someone said previously they don't care if you don't play the game they just want the login tick2 -
Sevn✭✭✭✭✭
✭The whole idea of a daily login reward is to reward those who login daily.
The whole idea is to present data to someone to show that in the last quarter of the year logins were drastically increased.
It isn't about who is the most loyal, or who deserves it. It is simply about creating a shiny enough carrot to make people do what they want, so they can get the data they desire.
People have a life. Travel, work, whatever. I agree with the OP.
Needs to be an alternative for the daily reward claim other than logging into the game, like a side app or something or if you log into the forums with a fresh refresh every day or something
The point of the login reward system is to get you to log into the game and play. An app on your phone or a forum login defeats the purpose.
However, yes, it is frustrating when outside circumstances prevent you from getting those big end of the month rewards. Power outages, bad weather, ISP being lazy, kids, family, work, all kinds of things could happen that prevent you from being able to log in even if just for a few minutes to claim the daily reward.
You don't need to play though, you can just login claim and logout
But once your in, why not go ahead and play for a bit? Maybe do some crafting writs or run a quick dungeon. Or maybe even just chat with your guild mates for a little while.
That's what the login reward is for. Just like the sign I saw earlier today that says "free drink with purchase of $20 or more". It's meant to get you in the door. After that they have other means of getting you to stick around and buy things.
But like someone said previously they don't care if you don't play the game they just want the login tick
Which doesn't work if they reward players for forum logins or app logins instead of logging into the actual game.There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man, true nobility is being superior to your former self
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✭✭✭✭✭I expected the “dog ate my homework” threads to come this month.
I didn’t expect them so soon ... like two weeks before the end of the month.2 -
Odnoc✭✭✭✭They're rewards. Yes, those that put in more effort (if you even want to call simply logging in "effort"...) should get more of a reward. Do you expect trial gear without doing them because you don't have time? This is no different. No change is needed.
And yes, this is coming from someone who doesn't play every day, I've never done a trial because I don't have time, and in fact if I miss one more day I lose the big reward this month.
Maybe it is because I'm in my 30's, but I just don't get where this feeling of entitlement comes from...Edited by Odnoc on September 17, 2018 12:25AM8 -
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✭Maybe I'm biased but I find it a little disturbing how many people act like it's the strangest thing in the world if a video game isn't your sole priority and some people aren't willing or able to plan the rest of their lives around it. I appreciate everyone's situation is different and not everyone has a job or family or other hobbies, but surely you can at least understand that for some people ESO is just entertainment - a fun way to spend some free time - and not something to schedule all your other plans around?
Imagine if a movie was only shown at 2pm on weekdays, for a couple of weeks. Sure people who want to see it could take the time off work, but is that a reasonable expectation? Or should the theatre recognise that seeing a movie is not the most important thing in their customers lives and attempt to schedule it so it's convenient for the maximum number of people? Why is a game any different?
(And yes we can, and do, just skip getting the login rewards. But IMO a reward system which is acceptable to players only because they can ignore it is not good game design.)Ydrisselle wrote: »it simply isn't reasonable to expect people to log in a full four weeks within a month in order to get the big rewards.
I propose a new system: there should only be 22 login rewards total in a 30 day month, 23 in in a 31 day month, and 21 in february. the 7th reward, 14th reward, and the last 4 rewards of each month should be a big reward.
proposed examples of a "big reward" for this system include: crown crates, experience scrolls, 30k gold, 30k alliance points, 15k tel var stones, 1k crowns, 50% off an ESO+ subscription (applied to one payment of any size), or 1 piece of DLC. (please note: the value of gold, alliance point, and tel var stone rewards has been proposed under the assumption that, as this post suggests, big log rewards will be plentiful in quantity throughout the month, and easy to obtain.)
this new system would considerably reward regular players; as opposed to the current system, which discourages players from continuing to log in, because the big reward near the end of the month is, for all practical purposes, unattainable.
This is the first month we have a 28-pieces reward table, so it's an experiment. Besides I don't think it's hard to log in for 5 minutes every day unless you aren't at home for some reason...
It's not hard if it's all you've got to do at the time. When I've got 20 minutes between waking up and needed to be out the door, and won't be home again until the next day (or later) it gets harder. Then I've got to switch the computer on, wait for it to start, open ESO and wait for it to load, put my password in, wait for it to load again and hit enter to log into a character, wait for it to load again, collect the reward and then lot out and shut the computer down, all in between doing everything else I need to get ready. It's possible but it's very annoying having to stop what I'm doing and go back to the computer for the next step, and having done it once I'd say it's definitely not worth the hassle unless you really want the final reward and can't afford to lose yet another day. (For example I wouldn't bother this month because while 100k gold is a lot it's only gold and I can get gold in other, less annoying, ways.)
But I think you're right that it's an experiment. It's a new system for them and they're playing around with numbers of days and rewards to see what works for the most number of people. Personally I wish they'd do it the way other games do where the rewards aren't removed at the end of the month so if you miss days you fall behind but don't lose out completely. but I guess they think this works better, at least for now.
Maybe wake up 5 minutes earlier...if it means that much to you...8 -
Odnoc✭✭✭✭Maybe I'm biased but I find it a little disturbing how many people act like it's the strangest thing in the world if a video game isn't your sole priority and some people aren't willing or able to plan the rest of their lives around it. I appreciate everyone's situation is different and not everyone has a job or family or other hobbies, but surely you can at least understand that for some people ESO is just entertainment - a fun way to spend some free time - and not something to schedule all your other plans around?
Nobody is saying you need to make it you're priority, you're the one acting like it is a life or death situation that you get the reward... Sure, it's nice to get, but you'll still be able to play without it, we went how many years without rewards?
What is strange though is you expect to be rewarded without meeting the conditions for the rewards.MIt's not hard if it's all you've got to do at the time. When I've got 20 minutes between waking up and needed to be out the door, and won't be home again until the next day (or later) it gets harder. Then I've got to switch the computer on, wait for it to start, open ESO and wait for it to load, put my password in, wait for it to load again and hit enter to log into a character, wait for it to load again, collect the reward and then lot out and shut the computer down, all in between doing everything else I need to get ready. It's possible but it's very annoying having to stop what I'm doing and go back to the computer for the next step, and having done it once I'd say it's definitely not worth the hassle unless you really want the final reward and can't afford to lose yet another day. (For example I wouldn't bother this month because while 100k gold is a lot it's only gold and I can get gold in other, less annoying, ways.)
Wake up 10 minutes earlier? 20 minutes is all I have before I need to be out the door, I'm dog sitting for the next 3 weeks, they need to go out in the morning, instead of trying to fit that into the 20 minutes before I leave, I simply changed my alarm to go off 10 minutes earlier.Edited by Odnoc on September 17, 2018 2:36AM3 -
SHADOW2KK✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Takes like a few seconds to log in and out after claiming, hardly unreasonable.
Since the daily log in began, I and many people have somehow managed to spare 2 seconds to log on every day to get this unobtainably every day reward right up to the point where we have to wait the best part of 2 weeks for it to reset, the login gives everyone plenty of time to log on, if you cannot, then tough, but it is unlike other games like GTA Online or others where you actually have to do things to get your daily shizzle, this is nothing.
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I have been struggling with logging in every day, and since power at my house goes out all the time pretty much (I live in the middle of nowhere) I will probably struggle with this a lot more in the future. At this point I don't even know if I will get the costume, there are many days where I am out of town and can't play too.0
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✭✭✭✭✭Fur_like_snow wrote: »100k is small potatoes not that big of a deal to miss it.
Let us know if you feel the same way in November when the big reward is the new DLC.
That said, if Zeni - or anyone else - thinks I'm going to shove my desktop into my suitcase just to be able to log in while on vacation, they'd better be posting from the Shivering Isles, because they're raving mad.#proud2BAStarObsessedLoony
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✭TequilaFire wrote: »I tried I can't come in every day on my boss because family, didn't get too far! lol
Try just logging in while you are drinking a cup of coffee.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭What would be nice would be if the game recognized that you logged in even if you didn't claim your reward for that day.Maybe I'm biased but I find it a little disturbing how many people act like it's the strangest thing in the world if a video game isn't your sole priority and some people aren't willing or able to plan the rest of their lives around it. I appreciate everyone's situation is different and not everyone has a job or family or other hobbies, but surely you can at least understand that for some people ESO is just entertainment - a fun way to spend some free time - and not something to schedule all your other plans around?
I think that's pretty normal. When I do that, I don't expect to get the rewards I would have, though. PokémonGO does a lot of stuff where if you go out in a certain time period on the weekend, you can get special rewards/raids/double stardust. I hardly ever participate in those because I have other things to do. But I don't worry about it.
Imagine if a movie was only shown at 2pm on weekdays, for a couple of weeks. Sure people who want to see it could take the time off work, but is that a reasonable expectation? Or should the theatre recognise that seeing a movie is not the most important thing in their customers lives and attempt to schedule it so it's convenient for the maximum number of people? Why is a game any different?
Well, considering I prefer going to the movies in the morning, when it's not crowded, and those times hardly exist, I don't go to the movies very often anymore.(And yes we can, and do, just skip getting the login rewards. But IMO a reward system which is acceptable to players only because they can ignore it is not good game design.)
So would you prefer a reward system where players get the reward without fulfilling the conditions for it? That seems silly.
I think not attaching too much importance to the rewards is a good strategy. Most of the stuff you don't even need.
Personally, I did log in every day so far this month, but I didn't pick up the reward on two days because I wasn't on my characters that picks them up. So now the game says I'm two days behind. I would be able to catch up, but I'm actually travelling at the end of the month to visit family, and I'm going to be pretty busy with RL stuff, so I'm not going to worry if I can't log in during that time. And I'm not going to complain about it either, because it's pixels on a screen and time with family is much more important.
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✭✭✭✭✭@AlnilamE: the only time I worry about who picks up what is when it's AP and Tel Var since everything but those are account bound. Hope you manage to get the time to log in though - sure, long-time players probably don't really need 100k gold, but hey, it can't hurt the bottom line!0 -
NolaArch✭✭✭✭✭I dunno. I have a family and a job and I’m pretty friggin’ busy. But I can manage to turn on the game and log in to click “claim” once a day. I mean, do you go to the bathroom? Take your laptop with you. No laptop? Start logging in, go do your business, claim when you’re finished and log off. I just find it hard to believe the time doesn’t exist.
And being out of town stinks if you don’t have a laptop to bring with you. But that’s...life? The rewards are fine as is. The grace period for those who miss a few days is fair.Ardat-Yakshii EP Stam NB
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