issue with login rewards needs to be fixed: end of the month rewards are too hard to obtain

Juju_beans

Yuffie91 wrote: »

Would be nice if there was an eso app to claim the daily login and do horse training

Dont get why there is so many negative replies here. Dont any of you ever go on vacation without your computers?

Yes and I do not angst over a video game that has daily login rewards.
They are pixels..nothing.

Ecileh71

When I know I won't have time for playing, I time my logins at be just before 8pm so I can get two days at once with only a few minutes of time invested.

Alpheu5

What if the missed days could be "caught up" by paying 50 Crowns per slot? For ESO+ members that's the full 1500 Crowns for a 30-day month. If you know you'll miss a few days or aren't totally sure what your schedule may contain later it can act as an alternate form of supporting the game and securing your position on the grid.

Some of you might have age but seriously lack maturity. Pose solutions that benefit everybody rather than bashing people that may not be as fortunate with their available time. Shame on you.

StrawberryKitsune

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

Broyston wrote: »

It would be nice if it was log in, click and done. But for me by the time my creaky old PC finally boots up 10 mins have passed, then 4 or 5 mins to actually login. Then 2 or 3 mins to shut down. A 20 minute job. But this isn't what bothers me, it is the fact that sometimes you can't log on, full stop. In July I was on a weeks vacation, no chance to log in, luckily that month it was only 21 log-ins to get the "star prize". This month if I had gone on vacation there is no chance to get the 100K gold. OK, it is just "tough", but maybe a good compromise would be have the star prize at 21-23 days or something, but still have rewards like experience scrolls etc out to the end of the month.

I'll be on vacation in November and most likely be unable to get the Murkmire reward from the daily login. But you know what, who cares, it's a game. And the login reward is just that, a log in reward. It isn't Zos' fault that I or anyone else has real life things that prevent logging in. Zero accommodations need to be made. Sometimes you can't log in, get over it.

Should be an alternative to get it atleast since even the most loyal to games can't login every day

There is an alternative to get it. ESO+ or buy it. Murkmire that is. No one is going to miss out on it full stop. There are other options. It's a nice bonus for those who log in daily.

As for other rewards, this month you can make that 100k easy. It's just the exclusive costumes and pets. Those will probably be in a future crates season or it's just tough luck. Life fundamentally isn't fair. But it is only a few minutes a day to log in. That's all that is required.

In short. Daily rewards are fine. Log in and get them. Don't login and you won't.

jaws343

Alpheu5 wrote: »

What if the missed days could be "caught up" by paying 50 Crowns per slot? For ESO+ members that's the full 1500 crowns for a 30-day month. If you know you'll miss a few days or aren't totally sure what your schedule may contain later it can act as an alternate form of supporting the game and securing your position on the grid.

Some of you might have age but seriously lack maturity. Pose solutions that benefit everybody rather than bashing people that may not be as fortunate with their available time. Shame on you.

Maturity is understanding that maybe a dialy log in reward isn't for everybody all the time. And that adults may need to make sacrifices in their lives to get what they want, and a video game reward is the least sacrificial thing to give up. There is no need to pose a solution because there is no problem that needs to be solved.

Lieblingsjunge

I like the long-duration login-rewards. But they should make some sort of catch-up mechanic 2 days of the week or so. If you missed a day, but login the day after, you can get your daily login reward + yesterday's login reward if you stay online for 30 minutes/Complete a Group Finder/Earn 20k AP/Do all crafting writs.

^The last ones are just suggestions.

Jinchuu

Alpheu5 wrote: »

Some of you might have age but seriously lack maturity. Pose solutions that benefit everybody rather than bashing people that may not be as fortunate with their available time. Shame on you.

Yu mean the same people who are calling others "no-lifers" and other nonsensical terms because they lack the basic though process required to be able to manage to squeeze in something that takes two minutes at the most to accomplish? Those sound like some real mature individuals to me.

Alpheu5

jaws343 wrote: »

Alpheu5 wrote: »

What if the missed days could be "caught up" by paying 50 Crowns per slot? For ESO+ members that's the full 1500 crowns for a 30-day month. If you know you'll miss a few days or aren't totally sure what your schedule may contain later it can act as an alternate form of supporting the game and securing your position on the grid.

Some of you might have age but seriously lack maturity. Pose solutions that benefit everybody rather than bashing people that may not be as fortunate with their available time. Shame on you.

Maturity is understanding that maybe a dialy log in reward isn't for everybody all the time. And that adults may need to make sacrifices in their lives to get what they want, and a video game reward is the least sacrificial thing to give up. There is no need to pose a solution because there is no problem that needs to be solved.

A small portion of Crowns in exchange for a login-free day is a sacrifice as well. The objective is to deliver a system that promotes game activity and support. Someone not being able to log in and being counted as a non-entity is the opposite of that and a problem worth solving.

Jinchuu wrote: »

Alpheu5 wrote: »

Some of you might have age but seriously lack maturity. Pose solutions that benefit everybody rather than bashing people that may not be as fortunate with their available time. Shame on you.

Yu mean the same people who are calling others "no-lifers" and other nonsensical terms because they lack the basic though process required to be able to manage to squeeze in something that takes two minutes at the most to accomplish? Those sound like some real mature individuals to me.

This is the type of unproductive bashing I'm referring to. "It just takes 2 minutes" isn't a solution to their problem.

Tandor

Yuffie91 wrote: »

Would be nice if there was an eso app to claim the daily login and do horse training

Dont get why there is so many negative replies here. Dont any of you ever go on vacation without your computers?

If in a situation like that I couldn't always log in, I wouldn't expect to get the rewards for doing so. Just as I don't have a Twitch account or the desire to watch other people playing the game so I don't expect to get the crown crates for doing so. If I was bothered about the crates I'd open a Twitch account and have the streams running while I did something else, I wouldn't lobby to get the crates anyway regardless of my not meeting the requirements.

Sevn

Alpheu5 wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

Alpheu5 wrote: »

What if the missed days could be "caught up" by paying 50 Crowns per slot? For ESO+ members that's the full 1500 crowns for a 30-day month. If you know you'll miss a few days or aren't totally sure what your schedule may contain later it can act as an alternate form of supporting the game and securing your position on the grid.

Some of you might have age but seriously lack maturity. Pose solutions that benefit everybody rather than bashing people that may not be as fortunate with their available time. Shame on you.

Maturity is understanding that maybe a dialy log in reward isn't for everybody all the time. And that adults may need to make sacrifices in their lives to get what they want, and a video game reward is the least sacrificial thing to give up. There is no need to pose a solution because there is no problem that needs to be solved.

A small portion of Crowns in exchange for a login-free day is a sacrifice as well. The objective is to deliver a system that promotes game activity and support. Someone not being able to log in and being counted as a non-entity is the opposite of that and a problem worth solving.

Jinchuu wrote: »

Alpheu5 wrote: »

Some of you might have age but seriously lack maturity. Pose solutions that benefit everybody rather than bashing people that may not be as fortunate with their available time. Shame on you.

Yu mean the same people who are calling others "no-lifers" and other nonsensical terms because they lack the basic though process required to be able to manage to squeeze in something that takes two minutes at the most to accomplish? Those sound like some real mature individuals to me.

This is the type of unproductive bashing I'm referring to. "It just takes 2 minutes" isn't a solution to their problem.

Ok, here's a solution, get up 2 minutes earlier? 10 minutes earlier? The entitlement is so strong with some of you. " I can't do the thing required to be rewarded, but I deserve to be rewarded anyway!" In what world?

Everyone wants a participation trophy just for being there, now they want participation trophies without even being there. Wow.

ShionRasenka

It's honestly not hard to log in for 2 mins and pick up the daily reward. I do it every morning and/or evening. I like that they're trying to experiment with more and better rewards a month. The system doesn't need to change.

runagate

Broyston wrote: »

(I actually did ask the IT guys if I could install ESO on my work PC so I could log on at lunch, but they said no, boo!!!)

I'm sorry, am I misunderstanding this? You asked your employers if you could install a video game at work?

Broyston

runagate wrote: »

Broyston wrote: »

(I actually did ask the IT guys if I could install ESO on my work PC so I could log on at lunch, but they said no, boo!!!)

I'm sorry, am I misunderstanding this? You asked your employers if you could install a video game at work?

Thought it was worth a try, and it was tongue in cheek, I knew what they would say, but hey, if you are allowed to go on Facebook etc in your lunch hour, why not a game? And since my lunch hour isn't paid, I am not on works time. A long stretch as I said. And not my employers as such, the guys in IT are not particularly management types...I wouldn't walk into the site managers office and ask that even if I was joking.

NolaArch

People complaining because they’re missing rewards while they’re on vacation. ON. VACATION. I can’t even believe it. Enjoy that luxury. I’d take a vacation over a crown crate any day. The system is fine!

otis67

They should keep it as it is. I you want the last reward then you have to login every day. (or almost every day) As far as the "big" rewards you mentioned, no, those are too big.

Alpheu5

Sevn wrote: »

Alpheu5 wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

Alpheu5 wrote: »

What if the missed days could be "caught up" by paying 50 Crowns per slot? For ESO+ members that's the full 1500 crowns for a 30-day month. If you know you'll miss a few days or aren't totally sure what your schedule may contain later it can act as an alternate form of supporting the game and securing your position on the grid.

Some of you might have age but seriously lack maturity. Pose solutions that benefit everybody rather than bashing people that may not be as fortunate with their available time. Shame on you.

Maturity is understanding that maybe a dialy log in reward isn't for everybody all the time. And that adults may need to make sacrifices in their lives to get what they want, and a video game reward is the least sacrificial thing to give up. There is no need to pose a solution because there is no problem that needs to be solved.

A small portion of Crowns in exchange for a login-free day is a sacrifice as well. The objective is to deliver a system that promotes game activity and support. Someone not being able to log in and being counted as a non-entity is the opposite of that and a problem worth solving.

Jinchuu wrote: »

Alpheu5 wrote: »

Some of you might have age but seriously lack maturity. Pose solutions that benefit everybody rather than bashing people that may not be as fortunate with their available time. Shame on you.

Yu mean the same people who are calling others "no-lifers" and other nonsensical terms because they lack the basic though process required to be able to manage to squeeze in something that takes two minutes at the most to accomplish? Those sound like some real mature individuals to me.

This is the type of unproductive bashing I'm referring to. "It just takes 2 minutes" isn't a solution to their problem.

Ok, here's a solution, get up 2 minutes earlier? 10 minutes earlier? The entitlement is so strong with some of you. " I can't do the thing required to be rewarded, but I deserve to be rewarded anyway!" In what world?

Everyone wants a participation trophy just for being there, now they want participation trophies without even being there. Wow.

It's not a matter of entitlement, it's about getting people to interact with the game and ways to keep giving to it without being required to integrate it into your daily routine. This is the first iteration of the live login reward system so there's still room for improvement, there's no denying that. Games make changes to benefit and raise participation of more players all the time.

The primary benefit ZoS gets strictly out of logins right now is eyes on the Crown Store splash screen that a certain percentage of the player base will turn into store purchases. They don't care that you log in, they just want the sales. The rewards are just the bait to get more people in-game for any period of time.

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Broyston

OK, you guys win. I will accept your argument that if you really wanted to you could log in, no matter what is going on in your life, but please for the love of all that is holy tell me what rig you are running that you can turn on, log into Windows, log into ESO, get through the loading screens, collect your reward, log off, power down PC in 2 minutes, because if you seriously can I am buying that tomorrow.

Sevn

Alpheu5 wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

Alpheu5 wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

Alpheu5 wrote: »

What if the missed days could be "caught up" by paying 50 Crowns per slot? For ESO+ members that's the full 1500 crowns for a 30-day month. If you know you'll miss a few days or aren't totally sure what your schedule may contain later it can act as an alternate form of supporting the game and securing your position on the grid.

Some of you might have age but seriously lack maturity. Pose solutions that benefit everybody rather than bashing people that may not be as fortunate with their available time. Shame on you.

Maturity is understanding that maybe a dialy log in reward isn't for everybody all the time. And that adults may need to make sacrifices in their lives to get what they want, and a video game reward is the least sacrificial thing to give up. There is no need to pose a solution because there is no problem that needs to be solved.

A small portion of Crowns in exchange for a login-free day is a sacrifice as well. The objective is to deliver a system that promotes game activity and support. Someone not being able to log in and being counted as a non-entity is the opposite of that and a problem worth solving.

Jinchuu wrote: »

Alpheu5 wrote: »

Some of you might have age but seriously lack maturity. Pose solutions that benefit everybody rather than bashing people that may not be as fortunate with their available time. Shame on you.

Yu mean the same people who are calling others "no-lifers" and other nonsensical terms because they lack the basic though process required to be able to manage to squeeze in something that takes two minutes at the most to accomplish? Those sound like some real mature individuals to me.

This is the type of unproductive bashing I'm referring to. "It just takes 2 minutes" isn't a solution to their problem.

Ok, here's a solution, get up 2 minutes earlier? 10 minutes earlier? The entitlement is so strong with some of you. " I can't do the thing required to be rewarded, but I deserve to be rewarded anyway!" In what world?

Everyone wants a participation trophy just for being there, now they want participation trophies without even being there. Wow.

It's not a matter of entitlement, it's about getting people to interact with the game and ways to keep giving to it without being required to integrate it into your daily routine. This is the first iteration of the live login reward system so there's still room for improvement, there's no denying that. Games make changes to benefit and raise participation of more players all the time.

The primary benefit ZoS gets strictly out of logins right now is eyes on the Crown Store splash screen that a certain percentage of the player base will turn into store purchases. They don't care that you log in, they just want the sales. The rewards are just the bait to get more people in-game for any period of time.

Jinchuu wrote: »

Alpheu5 wrote: »

I hope you find happiness.

I hope you find some semblance of intelligent thought.

My initial comment was addressing the unnecessarily uncompassionate comments being made in lieu of potential improvements to the system in order to accomplish the same goal while benefiting more players. Continuing to deride those that may hold opposing opinions only serves to demonstrate that your input is unproductive to this discussion. As such, you should remove yourself immediately to prevent the original topic from being diluted with slander and hyperbolic assumptions.

Ok, so if you recognize and acknowledge why they are doing daily rewards, why would you think it in their best interest to change it? Of course it's a marketing tool, it's a business first and foremost.

Odnoc

Broyston wrote: »

OK, you guys win. I will accept your argument that if you really wanted to you could log in, no matter what is going on in your life, but please for the love of all that is holy tell me what rig you are running that you can turn on, log into Windows, log into ESO, get through the loading screens, collect your reward, log off, power down PC in 2 minutes, because if you seriously can I am buying that tomorrow.

I think the argument is you’re not entitled to rewards if you can’t meet the criteria, just like with anything in life. But as far as booting up and logging in, I can do it on my pretty mediocre PC, just get a ssd and 16 gigs of ram.

Jinchuu

Broyston wrote: »

OK, you guys win. I will accept your argument that if you really wanted to you could log in, no matter what is going on in your life, but please for the love of all that is holy tell me what rig you are running that you can turn on, log into Windows, log into ESO, get through the loading screens, collect your reward, log off, power down PC in 2 minutes, because if you seriously can I am buying that tomorrow.

Why even bother shutting a PC down, this isn't the 90's so leave that bad boy running like normal people have been doing for like the past 2 decades.

If your PC takes forever to boot up it's either hot garbage or you're having a bunch of unnecessary progs fire up at startup, either way that's on you.

Broyston

Jinchuu wrote: »

Broyston wrote: »

OK, you guys win. I will accept your argument that if you really wanted to you could log in, no matter what is going on in your life, but please for the love of all that is holy tell me what rig you are running that you can turn on, log into Windows, log into ESO, get through the loading screens, collect your reward, log off, power down PC in 2 minutes, because if you seriously can I am buying that tomorrow.

Why even bother shutting a PC down, this isn't the 90's so leave that bad boy running like normal people have been doing for like the past 2 decades.

If your PC takes forever to boot up it's either hot garbage or you're having a bunch of unnecessary progs fire up at startup, either way that's on you.

I think it is the hot garbage theory, suspect a SSD boot drive would help as Odnoc mentioned above. I mustn't be normal then, always turn off, always have. Power saving, fire risk, etc. Call me paranoid.

Bouldercleave

My question is this:

Why do you feel that you should get the rewards for logging in daily if you don't (or can't) log in daily?


You claim that some of us have age but no maturity, but the reality is that it is very mature to realize that if I can't or don't meet the requirements, I don't get the rewards.

As far as the compassion goes - I'm sorry, but I don't give two furry *** if you get the rewards or not.

Juju_beans

Broyston wrote: »

OK, you guys win. I will accept your argument that if you really wanted to you could log in, no matter what is going on in your life, but please for the love of all that is holy tell me what rig you are running that you can turn on, log into Windows, log into ESO, get through the loading screens, collect your reward, log off, power down PC in 2 minutes, because if you seriously can I am buying that tomorrow.

Well you could turn it on and go off and do other things while it's booting.
Then click on ESO and go off and do other things while it's starting up.
You don't have to sit there for however long it takes for you to boot up and log into the game.
Go off and do other things and then come back and continue to get into the game.

Luigi_Vampa

Man, I'm just jealous of all these people taking so many vacations. I've had one vacation in the last 10 years. As for people saying they can't neglect their spouse, if your SO can't give you 5 mins to do something by yourself, you have some major problems already. Also, don't your SOs go to the bathroom or anything? There really isn't 5mins in your life that can't be used to log in real quick?

I work full time. I get up at 5am and get home around 4:30 pm. I have a family, two kids and a wife. I still have time to login. Nobody is that busy. If you travel for work, get a laptop if the rewards are important to you. Same thing on vacation. Logging in for 5mins before going to bed will not ruin your vacation. You people act like you have not a second of down time ever. I highly doubt that.

Androconium

A futile discussion about an irrelevant topic.

Nerf rewards!

Can we have your liver then?

ZOS_AntonioP

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sevomd69

LOL...people aren't happy with just "participation" trophies anymore...they don't even wanna participate...

Sylvermynx

Ashilda_Dragonheart wrote: »

I have been struggling with logging in every day, and since power at my house goes out all the time pretty much (I live in the middle of nowhere) I will probably struggle with this a lot more in the future. At this point I don't even know if I will get the costume, there are many days where I am out of town and can't play too.

Well, I live in the back of beyond - as far as the lower 48 (US) goes. 40 miles one-way from the nearest "real" broadband, with a 10k+ foot mountain between me and "civilization" (thank the goddesses). Though of course not having civilization also means not having anything but satellite for connect - because the wifi towers are way out of LOS for me, plus being behind 5k foot magnetic ridges.

I don't actually have many connect issues though. Wildblue/Viasat is really good at uptime. And since I'm retired I can login whenever. I login and play every day since games are my hobby, and I have my own income so - I spend it how I want....

It must be frustrating to want to login every day and not be able to....

Empu

I mean, as someone who has to leave my home regularly to urgently care for a sick family member, i've missed my share of days due to not having access to a computer. I think rather than having timed rewards, why not make it so the rewards are static and those who are able to log in more often gain them faster while at the same time those of us who are unable to login every day will still get them, albeit at a slower pace ?

Alpheu5

empu0323b16_ESO wrote: »

I mean, as someone who has to leave my home regularly to urgently care for a sick family member, i've missed my share of days due to not having access to a computer. I think rather than having timed rewards, why not make it so the rewards are static and those who are able to log in more often gain them faster while at the same time those of us who are unable to login every day will still get them, albeit at a slower pace ?

Another game I play has random rewards every day and a pool of predetermined unique rewards you can pick from on milestone days. It's always a pleasant experience, even if what's inside isn't something I need at the moment.