issue with login rewards needs to be fixed: end of the month rewards are too hard to obtain

zoobmer

it simply isn't reasonable to expect people to log in a full four weeks within a month in order to get the big rewards.

I propose a new system: there should only be 22 login rewards total in a 30 day month, 23 in in a 31 day month, and 21 in february. the 7th reward, 14th reward, and the last 4 rewards of each month should be a big reward.

proposed examples of a "big reward" for this system include: crown crates, experience scrolls, 30k gold, 30k alliance points, 15k tel var stones, 1k crowns, 50% off an ESO+ subscription (applied to one payment of any size), or 1 piece of DLC. (please note: the value of gold, alliance point, and tel var stone rewards has been proposed under the assumption that, as this post suggests, big log rewards will be plentiful in quantity throughout the month, and easy to obtain.)

this new system would considerably reward regular players; as opposed to the current system, which discourages players from continuing to log in, because the big reward near the end of the month is, for all practical purposes, unattainable.

Ydrisselle

zoobmer wrote: »

it simply isn't reasonable to expect people to log in a full four weeks within a month in order to get the big rewards.

I propose a new system: there should only be 22 login rewards total in a 30 day month, 23 in in a 31 day month, and 21 in february. the 7th reward, 14th reward, and the last 4 rewards of each month should be a big reward.

proposed examples of a "big reward" for this system include: crown crates, experience scrolls, 30k gold, 30k alliance points, 15k tel var stones, 1k crowns, 50% off an ESO+ subscription (applied to one payment of any size), or 1 piece of DLC. (please note: the value of gold, alliance point, and tel var stone rewards has been proposed under the assumption that, as this post suggests, big log rewards will be plentiful in quantity throughout the month, and easy to obtain.)

this new system would considerably reward regular players; as opposed to the current system, which discourages players from continuing to log in, because the big reward near the end of the month is, for all practical purposes, unattainable.

This is the first month we have a 28-pieces reward table, so it's an experiment. Besides I don't think it's hard to log in for 5 minutes every day unless you aren't at home for some reason...

Aliyavana

you need to log in for 1 minute a day and click a button

theyancey

It really isn't difficult

Lake

I'm guessing this month is an experiment since every month so far has been very different in terms of reward types, top reward locations, days etc.

If you don't want this month's type of calendar, simply don't log in and don't claim the 100k so it looks like a flop to their number crunchers.

Nyladreas

Aliyavana wrote: »

you need to log in for 1 minute a day and click a button

Not everyone is always home every day. Especially those with families. That's the reason for OP's post. At least I think.

Kel

zoobmer wrote: »

it simply isn't reasonable to expect people to log in a full four weeks within a month in order to get the big rewards.

I propose a new system: there should only be 22 login rewards total in a 30 day month, 23 in in a 31 day month, and 21 in february. the 7th reward, 14th reward, and the last 4 rewards of each month should be a big reward.

proposed examples of a "big reward" for this system include: crown crates, experience scrolls, 30k gold, 30k alliance points, 15k tel var stones, 1k crowns, 50% off an ESO+ subscription (applied to one payment of any size), or 1 piece of DLC. (please note: the value of gold, alliance point, and tel var stone rewards has been proposed under the assumption that, as this post suggests, big log rewards will be plentiful in quantity throughout the month, and easy to obtain.)

this new system would considerably reward regular players; as opposed to the current system, which discourages players from continuing to log in, because the big reward near the end of the month is, for all practical purposes, unattainable.

What you've described is already the case, except this month. And you still get a 2 day grace period without missing out. The reward is big enough to be justified for logging in most of the month.

prototypefb

some rewards take 4-6 hr only, say during the weekend you can get up to 5-6 easy if you log in once in a while

Tandor

The whole idea of a daily login reward is to reward those who login daily.

Acrolas

zoobmer wrote: »

50% off an ESO+ subscription (applied to one payment of any size)

They're never going to risk devaluing their core paid service, so we're never going to see any discount or sale applied to ESO+. The point of the promotional ESO+ trials is to give an interactive demonstration of the bonuses the subscription provides.

There's no need for you to propose a new system. The one ZOS developed internally is working as intended.

Universe

There is 100K gold reward as the last login reward for the month.
This is no small reward.
It is just fine the way it is, login and be rewarded!

LordSkyKnight

If you can’t log in oh well. Get over it. I’m out of town this week so I missed the free crates and I will miss the 100k reward as well. It’s ok, it’s not the end of the world.

This entitlement where people think they are owed everything the game offers without the effort needs to end.

Aurielle

Nyladreas wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

you need to log in for 1 minute a day and click a button

Not everyone is always home every day. Especially those with families. That's the reason for OP's post. At least I think.

Yep. Some of us also have work schedules that interfere with daily logins. When you’re getting home at 5:30pm after being at work for 8 hours, you likely have enough time to squeeze in a few mins of ESO without neglecting your partner. When you’re getting home at 8pm after being at work for 12 hours? Not so much.

Gythral

Given all the rewards for the month and only 2 are worth login for and they are in the first and third weeks, so not really hard to get for most!

Ydrisselle

Aurielle wrote: »

Nyladreas wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

you need to log in for 1 minute a day and click a button

Not everyone is always home every day. Especially those with families. That's the reason for OP's post. At least I think.

Yep. Some of us also have work schedules that interfere with daily logins. When you’re getting home at 5:30pm after being at work for 8 hours, you likely have enough time to squeeze in a few mins of ESO without neglecting your partner. When you’re getting home at 8pm after being at work for 12 hours? Not so much.

Then try to log in before you go to work. I'm European, so for me the daily change happens at 2:00 AM right now, but I also worked in 4 shifts, so sometimes had to log in in the morning to grab my rewards (not in ESO, other MMOs).

TequilaFire

I tried I can't come in every day on my boss because family, didn't get too far! lol

Cpt_Teemo

Ydrisselle wrote: »

zoobmer wrote: »

it simply isn't reasonable to expect people to log in a full four weeks within a month in order to get the big rewards.

I propose a new system: there should only be 22 login rewards total in a 30 day month, 23 in in a 31 day month, and 21 in february. the 7th reward, 14th reward, and the last 4 rewards of each month should be a big reward.

proposed examples of a "big reward" for this system include: crown crates, experience scrolls, 30k gold, 30k alliance points, 15k tel var stones, 1k crowns, 50% off an ESO+ subscription (applied to one payment of any size), or 1 piece of DLC. (please note: the value of gold, alliance point, and tel var stone rewards has been proposed under the assumption that, as this post suggests, big log rewards will be plentiful in quantity throughout the month, and easy to obtain.)

this new system would considerably reward regular players; as opposed to the current system, which discourages players from continuing to log in, because the big reward near the end of the month is, for all practical purposes, unattainable.

This is the first month we have a 28-pieces reward table, so it's an experiment. Besides I don't think it's hard to log in for 5 minutes every day unless you aren't at home for some reason...

An alternative should be if you logged into the forums it'll count as a reward for that day and auto claim it while in game so you can do it from phone too and send it to your mail so its ready when you login

iiYuki

Its not really a DAILY log in reward if you dont actually have to log in every day is it?
I've really grown to hate these threads more and more, so many entitled people who think the game should change for them because they, "cant play every day so we should change this part of the game" or "You can't expect people to log in EVERY day they might have families and friends or work schedules that clash".
Its as if people think ZO$ are suppose to work their game around their lives. If you choose to not log in on that day you dont get the reward, that is, that's how simple it is. It doesn't change if your at work, go on holiday, go to a friends house, have "other" stuff to do. You dont log in you dont get your reward simple, end of.

Ankael07

'' A dessert spoon of free food isnt enough I want a soup spoon! ''

zaria

Tandor wrote: »

The whole idea of a daily login reward is to reward those who login daily.

Think its more to get causal players to log in every day.
My best reward this month was then my level 4 alt with an infinite slow horse got 1500 AP and unlocked rapid maneuver.
Crown food and potions also go to leveling alts, same with the various xp buffs.

WacArnold

The problem I had was it took forever to download these massive 50gb updates and if your internet is not great like mine you end up waiting 4 days to dowload the damn update lol.

Acrolas

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

An alternative should be if you logged into the forums it'll count as a reward for that day and auto claim it while in game so you can do it from phone too and send it to your mail so its ready when you login

That's not actively playing the game. There's probably a few people on the forum who don't even have ESO installed.

Chicharron

For many reasons, my PC always has to be on and with TeamViewer, no matter where i go i can use it.

Last weekend was out of town i used to claim the daily reward, it took me 2 minutes a day.

Davor

Why should we be rewarded for not logging in? The purpose of these rewards is for people to log in and there for MIGHT buy something on the crown store. So if you are not logging it in a chance to buy something, then why be rewarded?

Maybe I see this as what it is so I understand. Makes great business sense. Put in more vinegar to attract the flies. Add more honey to make it sweeter.

This has nothing do to about "rewarding" people for playing their game but getting more click bait in a chance since someone is already there they might buy something in the crown store. So if you are not there, then why should you be "rewarded"?

Davor

WacArnold wrote: »

The problem I had was it took forever to download these massive 50gb updates and if your internet is not great like mine you end up waiting 4 days to dowload the damn update lol.

That is when I would send in a ticket. Say Day One of update, "letting you know I would log in but I am downloading update." Then "It's Day Two, still updating, would have logged in" keep doing it until the update is complete and then log in normally.

Not saying it will work but it does seem from time to time Zenimax does help out when they can, so just show them that you tried. After all submitting a ticket would show you have logged in. Thing is can we submit a ticket when not in the game? Can we not contact Zenimax support through the website on our accounts? I mean the ESO asccounts.

Cpt_Teemo

Acrolas wrote: »

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

An alternative should be if you logged into the forums it'll count as a reward for that day and auto claim it while in game so you can do it from phone too and send it to your mail so its ready when you login

That's not actively playing the game. There's probably a few people on the forum who don't even have ESO installed.

True but you can just login claim and logout, no activity in that either

runagate

Nyladreas wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

you need to log in for 1 minute a day and click a button

Not everyone is always home every day. Especially those with families. That's the reason for OP's post. At least I think.

Why have a family if they're not farming mats while you're away?

Danikat

Maybe I'm biased but I find it a little disturbing how many people act like it's the strangest thing in the world if a video game isn't your sole priority and some people aren't willing or able to plan the rest of their lives around it. I appreciate everyone's situation is different and not everyone has a job or family or other hobbies, but surely you can at least understand that for some people ESO is just entertainment - a fun way to spend some free time - and not something to schedule all your other plans around?

Imagine if a movie was only shown at 2pm on weekdays, for a couple of weeks. Sure people who want to see it could take the time off work, but is that a reasonable expectation? Or should the theatre recognise that seeing a movie is not the most important thing in their customers lives and attempt to schedule it so it's convenient for the maximum number of people? Why is a game any different?

(And yes we can, and do, just skip getting the login rewards. But IMO a reward system which is acceptable to players only because they can ignore it is not good game design.)

Ydrisselle wrote: »

zoobmer wrote: »

it simply isn't reasonable to expect people to log in a full four weeks within a month in order to get the big rewards.

I propose a new system: there should only be 22 login rewards total in a 30 day month, 23 in in a 31 day month, and 21 in february. the 7th reward, 14th reward, and the last 4 rewards of each month should be a big reward.

proposed examples of a "big reward" for this system include: crown crates, experience scrolls, 30k gold, 30k alliance points, 15k tel var stones, 1k crowns, 50% off an ESO+ subscription (applied to one payment of any size), or 1 piece of DLC. (please note: the value of gold, alliance point, and tel var stone rewards has been proposed under the assumption that, as this post suggests, big log rewards will be plentiful in quantity throughout the month, and easy to obtain.)

this new system would considerably reward regular players; as opposed to the current system, which discourages players from continuing to log in, because the big reward near the end of the month is, for all practical purposes, unattainable.

This is the first month we have a 28-pieces reward table, so it's an experiment. Besides I don't think it's hard to log in for 5 minutes every day unless you aren't at home for some reason...

It's not hard if it's all you've got to do at the time. When I've got 20 minutes between waking up and needed to be out the door, and won't be home again until the next day (or later) it gets harder. Then I've got to switch the computer on, wait for it to start, open ESO and wait for it to load, put my password in, wait for it to load again and hit enter to log into a character, wait for it to load again, collect the reward and then lot out and shut the computer down, all in between doing everything else I need to get ready. It's possible but it's very annoying having to stop what I'm doing and go back to the computer for the next step, and having done it once I'd say it's definitely not worth the hassle unless you really want the final reward and can't afford to lose yet another day. (For example I wouldn't bother this month because while 100k gold is a lot it's only gold and I can get gold in other, less annoying, ways.)

But I think you're right that it's an experiment. It's a new system for them and they're playing around with numbers of days and rewards to see what works for the most number of people. Personally I wish they'd do it the way other games do where the rewards aren't removed at the end of the month so if you miss days you fall behind but don't lose out completely. but I guess they think this works better, at least for now.

Facefister

"I don't have time for a 1-minute session of gaming"

Jinchuu

Since you people want login rewards without having to log in (you can't seriously expect anyone to believe you don't have a minute to spare to do this) then I would like dungeon and trial rewards without ever having to do those.

Sevn

I feel you, but it really does only take like 2 minutes max to claim, at least on console. Start up is so quick on console and you can skip most of the initial screens that I'm in and out in no time.

It's funny actually as I really haven't played much this month, save for writs occasionally and this weekend for the free crates, but they do encourage me to log in when I otherwise have no interest to.

What does become tedious is doing this on several accounts, some months I can stomach the repetitive act, others I only make it a few days. Really thought I was going to get tons of gold from secondary accounts, that lasted a week and I'm barely holding on for the last reward on my main lol. This 28 dayer is a mother!

I've done it before though in gtao where you login every day and have to actually do something to earn it, this is much more enjoyable. No real complaints from me.