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If they would of left frags alone there would not be any chain nerfs that affected other classes.Then future rework of skills like cc being taken away from shalks, not being able to bash someone who has cc immunity, powerlash through dodge roll ( defacto magdk excute), rune cage buff and now udder nerf, etc..
Zos is this what you really wanted with sorcs, no one and I mean no one asked for the frag cc removal. You caused a spiral of events that keeps growing just like cp swap from vet ranks. P.S don’t make me get on how you scrapped the saving grace of the game that made Lefty Lucy leave. ... Justice System
Zos is this what you really wanted with sorcs, no one and I mean no one asked for the frag cc removal. You caused a spiral of events that keeps growing just like cp swap from vet ranks. P.S don’t make me get on how you scrapped the saving grace of the game that made Lefty Lucy leave. ... Justice System
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Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭zParallaxz wrote: »You caused a spiral of events that keeps growing just like cp swap from vet ranks.
Was zos responsible for this, or as numerous people have said, was it the whining that caused them to gut classes, and which will eventually turn them into a bland homogenised boring mess?
Gamers. No foresight.12 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭zParallaxz wrote: »If they would of left frags alone there would not be any chain nerfs that affected other classes.Then future rework of skills like cc being taken away from shalks, not being able to bash someone who has cc immunity, powerlash through dodge roll ( defacto magdk excute), rune cage buff and now udder nerf, etc..
Zos is this what you really wanted with sorcs, no one and I mean no one asked for the frag cc removal. You caused a spiral of events that keeps growing just like cp swap from vet ranks. P.S don’t make me get on how you scrapped the saving grace of the game that made Lefty Lucy leave. ... Justice System
idk ive about had it with zos.... this shield change is probably going to be the thing i quit over10 -
Finviuswe✭✭✭✭I wonder how the decision making process went when they decided on the frag nerf.
Person 1: "Hey, well we gotta nerf sumthin' ".
Person 2: "Well, there's frags. That's a skill. Frags exists".
Person 1: "Crap, frags DOES exist. But it isn't overperforming in any way, and it's a class identifying skill!"
Person 2: "Eh, who cares. We don't need a reason to justify our actions! Base it off nothing!"
Must've gone something like that, amirite?20 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭zParallaxz wrote: »If they would of left frags alone there would not be any chain nerfs that affected other classes.Then future rework of skills like cc being taken away from shalks, not being able to bash someone who has cc immunity, powerlash through dodge roll ( defacto magdk excute), rune cage buff and now udder nerf, etc..
Zos is this what you really wanted with sorcs, no one and I mean no one asked for the frag cc removal. You caused a spiral of events that keeps growing just like cp swap from vet ranks. P.S don’t make me get on how you scrapped the saving grace of the game that made Lefty Lucy leave. ... Justice System
idk ive about had it with zos.... this shield change is probably going to be the thing i quit over
You'll get over it.8 -
Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭zParallaxz wrote: »If they would of left frags alone there would not be any chain nerfs that affected other classes.Then future rework of skills like cc being taken away from shalks, not being able to bash someone who has cc immunity, powerlash through dodge roll ( defacto magdk excute), rune cage buff and now udder nerf, etc..
Zos is this what you really wanted with sorcs, no one and I mean no one asked for the frag cc removal. You caused a spiral of events that keeps growing just like cp swap from vet ranks. P.S don’t make me get on how you scrapped the saving grace of the game that made Lefty Lucy leave. ... Justice System
idk ive about had it with zos.... this shield change is probably going to be the thing i quit over
You'll get over it.
Or we simply switch to stamina train running with forward momentum and vigor whatever.I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.4 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭zParallaxz wrote: »If they would of left frags alone there would not be any chain nerfs that affected other classes.Then future rework of skills like cc being taken away from shalks, not being able to bash someone who has cc immunity, powerlash through dodge roll ( defacto magdk excute), rune cage buff and now udder nerf, etc..
Zos is this what you really wanted with sorcs, no one and I mean no one asked for the frag cc removal. You caused a spiral of events that keeps growing just like cp swap from vet ranks. P.S don’t make me get on how you scrapped the saving grace of the game that made Lefty Lucy leave. ... Justice System
idk ive about had it with zos.... this shield change is probably going to be the thing i quit over
You'll get over it.
Or we simply switch to stamina train running with forward momentum and vigor whatever.
Good, I love easy AP.1 -
Finviuswe✭✭✭✭zParallaxz wrote: »If they would of left frags alone there would not be any chain nerfs that affected other classes.Then future rework of skills like cc being taken away from shalks, not being able to bash someone who has cc immunity, powerlash through dodge roll ( defacto magdk excute), rune cage buff and now udder nerf, etc..
Zos is this what you really wanted with sorcs, no one and I mean no one asked for the frag cc removal. You caused a spiral of events that keeps growing just like cp swap from vet ranks. P.S don’t make me get on how you scrapped the saving grace of the game that made Lefty Lucy leave. ... Justice System
idk ive about had it with zos.... this shield change is probably going to be the thing i quit over
You'll get over it.
Or we simply switch to stamina train running with forward momentum and vigor whatever.
You'd kill a lot more people with it
Stamina Sorc is doing a lot better now than a couple patches ago. Built right they are killing machines in the current meta. I would certainly recommend looking into race changing and respeccing into a stam sorc before merely quitting due to the shield nerf. There are also other classes you can play.Edited by Finviuswe on September 14, 2018 6:43AM3 -
zParallaxz✭✭✭✭✭zParallaxz wrote: »If they would of left frags alone there would not be any chain nerfs that affected other classes.Then future rework of skills like cc being taken away from shalks, not being able to bash someone who has cc immunity, powerlash through dodge roll ( defacto magdk excute), rune cage buff and now udder nerf, etc..
Zos is this what you really wanted with sorcs, no one and I mean no one asked for the frag cc removal. You caused a spiral of events that keeps growing just like cp swap from vet ranks. P.S don’t make me get on how you scrapped the saving grace of the game that made Lefty Lucy leave. ... Justice System
idk ive about had it with zos.... this shield change is probably going to be the thing i quit over
You'll get over it.
Or we simply switch to stamina train running with forward momentum and vigor whatever.
Good, I love easy AP.
Daus how many characters have you played and how good are you on them. I speak from playing all characters with each one being my main ( as in I solely play it with full passives, mages guild, fighters guild, undaunted passives) for a good 3+ months. The way you talk I don’t think you have played a mag build at a high level before.10 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭zParallaxz wrote: »If they would of left frags alone there would not be any chain nerfs that affected other classes.Then future rework of skills like cc being taken away from shalks, not being able to bash someone who has cc immunity, powerlash through dodge roll ( defacto magdk excute), rune cage buff and now udder nerf, etc..
Zos is this what you really wanted with sorcs, no one and I mean no one asked for the frag cc removal. You caused a spiral of events that keeps growing just like cp swap from vet ranks. P.S don’t make me get on how you scrapped the saving grace of the game that made Lefty Lucy leave. ... Justice System
Leave frag with no stun it was giving perfectly one shot combo!0 -
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✭zParallaxz wrote: »If they would of left frags alone there would not be any chain nerfs that affected other classes.Then future rework of skills like cc being taken away from shalks, not being able to bash someone who has cc immunity, powerlash through dodge roll ( defacto magdk excute), rune cage buff and now udder nerf, etc..
Zos is this what you really wanted with sorcs, no one and I mean no one asked for the frag cc removal. You caused a spiral of events that keeps growing just like cp swap from vet ranks. P.S don’t make me get on how you scrapped the saving grace of the game that made Lefty Lucy leave. ... Justice System
idk ive about had it with zos.... this shield change is probably going to be the thing i quit over
Huh...I guess you're gonna litter very thread with your threat of leaving ESO...if so...here's a bye bye in advance... I mean that is what you want...right?3 -
zParallaxz✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »zParallaxz wrote: »If they would of left frags alone there would not be any chain nerfs that affected other classes.Then future rework of skills like cc being taken away from shalks, not being able to bash someone who has cc immunity, powerlash through dodge roll ( defacto magdk excute), rune cage buff and now udder nerf, etc..
Zos is this what you really wanted with sorcs, no one and I mean no one asked for the frag cc removal. You caused a spiral of events that keeps growing just like cp swap from vet ranks. P.S don’t make me get on how you scrapped the saving grace of the game that made Lefty Lucy leave. ... Justice System
Leave frag with no stun it was giving perfectly one shot combo!
Alright let’s have a good debate, what class are u and what’s your cp, gear, etc.. I can probably identify why and what causes you to think a cc on frag nerf was necessary.0 -
Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I wonder how the decision making process went when they decided on the frag nerf.
Person 1: "Hey, well we gotta nerf sumthin' ".
Person 2: "Well, there's frags. That's a skill. Frags exists".
Person 1: "Crap, frags DOES exist. But it isn't overperforming in any way, and it's a class identifying skill!"
Person 2: "Eh, who cares. We don't need a reason to justify our actions! Base it off nothing!"
Must've gone something like that, amirite?
Frags WAS over performing.
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I wonder how the decision making process went when they decided on the frag nerf.
Person 1: "Hey, well we gotta nerf sumthin' ".
Person 2: "Well, there's frags. That's a skill. Frags exists".
Person 1: "Crap, frags DOES exist. But it isn't overperforming in any way, and it's a class identifying skill!"
Person 2: "Eh, who cares. We don't need a reason to justify our actions! Base it off nothing!"
Must've gone something like that, amirite?
Frags WAS over performing.
Sure thing! And pigs fly, yes?Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake8 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I wonder how the decision making process went when they decided on the frag nerf.
Person 1: "Hey, well we gotta nerf sumthin' ".
Person 2: "Well, there's frags. That's a skill. Frags exists".
Person 1: "Crap, frags DOES exist. But it isn't overperforming in any way, and it's a class identifying skill!"
Person 2: "Eh, who cares. We don't need a reason to justify our actions! Base it off nothing!"
Must've gone something like that, amirite?
Frags WAS over performing.
Sure thing! And pigs fly, yes?
"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU2 -
Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I wonder how the decision making process went when they decided on the frag nerf.
Person 1: "Hey, well we gotta nerf sumthin' ".
Person 2: "Well, there's frags. That's a skill. Frags exists".
Person 1: "Crap, frags DOES exist. But it isn't overperforming in any way, and it's a class identifying skill!"
Person 2: "Eh, who cares. We don't need a reason to justify our actions! Base it off nothing!"
Must've gone something like that, amirite?
Frags WAS over performing.
Sure thing! And pigs fly, yes?
I’m not following your logic.
High damage, hard CC stun, free cast skill was not um....over performing?
Bruh.
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I wonder how the decision making process went when they decided on the frag nerf.
Person 1: "Hey, well we gotta nerf sumthin' ".
Person 2: "Well, there's frags. That's a skill. Frags exists".
Person 1: "Crap, frags DOES exist. But it isn't overperforming in any way, and it's a class identifying skill!"
Person 2: "Eh, who cares. We don't need a reason to justify our actions! Base it off nothing!"
Must've gone something like that, amirite?
Frags WAS over performing.
Sure thing! And pigs fly, yes?
I’m not following your logic.
High damage, hard CC stun, free cast skill was not um....over performing?
Bruh.
It was not free, could be blocked and dodged very easily, as well as reflected...
Plus let's just ignore things like DBoS and Incap Strike...you know those high damage hard CC stun skills with very low ult costs...hehValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake8 -
Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I wonder how the decision making process went when they decided on the frag nerf.
Person 1: "Hey, well we gotta nerf sumthin' ".
Person 2: "Well, there's frags. That's a skill. Frags exists".
Person 1: "Crap, frags DOES exist. But it isn't overperforming in any way, and it's a class identifying skill!"
Person 2: "Eh, who cares. We don't need a reason to justify our actions! Base it off nothing!"
Must've gone something like that, amirite?
Frags WAS over performing.
Sure thing! And pigs fly, yes?
I’m not following your logic.
High damage, hard CC stun, free cast skill was not um....over performing?
Bruh.
It was not free, could be blocked and dodged very easily, as well as reflected...
Plus let's just ignore things like DBoS and Incap Strike...you know those high damage hard CC stun skills with very low ult costs...heh
Frags proc for a free cast. Whether your target is smart enough to counter is another story.
I’m not sure I’m following the Ultimate part. Incap has been adjusted, I don’t think DB is that bad unless you are part of the current Vamp meta.0 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I wonder how the decision making process went when they decided on the frag nerf.
Person 1: "Hey, well we gotta nerf sumthin' ".
Person 2: "Well, there's frags. That's a skill. Frags exists".
Person 1: "Crap, frags DOES exist. But it isn't overperforming in any way, and it's a class identifying skill!"
Person 2: "Eh, who cares. We don't need a reason to justify our actions! Base it off nothing!"
Must've gone something like that, amirite?
Frags WAS over performing.
Sure thing! And pigs fly, yes?
I’m not following your logic.
High damage, hard CC stun, free cast skill was not um....over performing?
Bruh.
It was not free, could be blocked and dodged very easily, as well as reflected...
Plus let's just ignore things like DBoS and Incap Strike...you know those high damage hard CC stun skills with very low ult costs...heh
Frags proc for a free cast. Whether your target is smart enough to counter is another story.
I’m not sure I’m following the Ultimate part. Incap has been adjusted, I don’t think DB is that bad unless you are part of the current Vamp meta.
50% reduced cost. You're thinking of the NB bow proc, which is free and hits harder"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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JimmyJuJu✭✭✭✭I wonder if it has something to do with the sheer volume of unpaid zerg ball accounts running high-elf AD magsorcs in pvp.
Nah. Couldn't be that.1 -
qbit✭✭✭✭✭I never played before changes to crystal frags and only have a magsorc toon. From that perspective it’s my favorite skill. So satisfying to use. I get an audio and visual cue when it procs so I fire it off constantly since I’m procing it weaving my spammable (one of the destruction staff abilities, the first one can’t remember what it’s called). Like I shoot if off every couple or three seconds. Then the satisfying sound. The sound the addon makes when it procs has become an integral part of my combat experience. Combat would be dull to me without that sound.
Just adding a new player perspective. I’ve never wanted a CC on it (never had it with it) but I feel like it should have some splash damage. But I’m thinking of cool factor not balance. Splash damage be OP. So don’t burn me down please.1 -
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✭I never played before changes to crystal frags and only have a magsorc toon. From that perspective it’s my favorite skill. So satisfying to use. I get an audio and visual cue when it procs so I fire it off constantly since I’m procing it weaving my spammable (one of the destruction staff abilities, the first one can’t remember what it’s called). Like I shoot if off every couple or three seconds. Then the satisfying sound. The sound the addon makes when it procs has become an integral part of my combat experience. Combat would be dull to me without that sound.
Just adding a new player perspective. I’ve never wanted a CC on it (never had it with it) but I feel like it should have some splash damage. But I’m thinking of cool factor not balance. Splash damage be OP. So don’t burn me down please.
You are probably talking PvE side of things, in PvP that stun on Frags will make or break a build.1 -
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✭I wonder if it has something to do with the sheer volume of unpaid zerg ball accounts running high-elf AD magsorcs in pvp.
Nah. Couldn't be that.
You obviously havent been to Cyro for a long time. The sheer volume of sorc in Cyro is at 3 right now. After shield nerfs it will drop to a single sado-maso person still running MagSorc.1 -
Kalante✭✭✭✭✭
✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I wonder how the decision making process went when they decided on the frag nerf.
Person 1: "Hey, well we gotta nerf sumthin' ".
Person 2: "Well, there's frags. That's a skill. Frags exists".
Person 1: "Crap, frags DOES exist. But it isn't overperforming in any way, and it's a class identifying skill!"
Person 2: "Eh, who cares. We don't need a reason to justify our actions! Base it off nothing!"
Must've gone something like that, amirite?
Frags WAS over performing.
Sure thing! And pigs fly, yes?
I’m not following your logic.
High damage, hard CC stun, free cast skill was not um....over performing?
Bruh.
It was not free, could be blocked and dodged very easily, as well as reflected...
Plus let's just ignore things like DBoS and Incap Strike...you know those high damage hard CC stun skills with very low ult costs...heh
Yea let's just ingore mag sorcs ability to shield spam and practically be impossible to kill without a proper timed cc.Edited by Kalante on September 14, 2018 7:00PM2 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I wonder how the decision making process went when they decided on the frag nerf.
Person 1: "Hey, well we gotta nerf sumthin' ".
Person 2: "Well, there's frags. That's a skill. Frags exists".
Person 1: "Crap, frags DOES exist. But it isn't overperforming in any way, and it's a class identifying skill!"
Person 2: "Eh, who cares. We don't need a reason to justify our actions! Base it off nothing!"
Must've gone something like that, amirite?
Frags WAS over performing.
Sure thing! And pigs fly, yes?
I’m not following your logic.
High damage, hard CC stun, free cast skill was not um....over performing?
Bruh.
It was not free, could be blocked and dodged very easily, as well as reflected...
Plus let's just ignore things like DBoS and Incap Strike...you know those high damage hard CC stun skills with very low ult costs...heh
Yea let's just ingore mag sorcs ability to shield spam and practically be impossible to kill without a proper timed cc.
Really wanna go there? Heal spam is a thing, block casting is a thing, dodge roll spam is a thing, and nearly every class has access to a CC of some sort even if it isn't class based (even though all classes should have at least one CC option within their own trees)
Sorcs always look OP when you ignore all of their counters and every other class in the gameValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake11 -
Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I wonder how the decision making process went when they decided on the frag nerf.
Person 1: "Hey, well we gotta nerf sumthin' ".
Person 2: "Well, there's frags. That's a skill. Frags exists".
Person 1: "Crap, frags DOES exist. But it isn't overperforming in any way, and it's a class identifying skill!"
Person 2: "Eh, who cares. We don't need a reason to justify our actions! Base it off nothing!"
Must've gone something like that, amirite?
Frags WAS over performing.
Sure thing! And pigs fly, yes?
I’m not following your logic.
High damage, hard CC stun, free cast skill was not um....over performing?
Bruh.
It was not free, could be blocked and dodged very easily, as well as reflected...
Plus let's just ignore things like DBoS and Incap Strike...you know those high damage hard CC stun skills with very low ult costs...heh
Yea let's just ingore mag sorcs ability to shield spam and practically be impossible to kill without a proper timed cc.
Should we also ignore that any decent build in the hands of a capable player is impossible to kill without a proper timed cc. At least sorc is less likely to dodge it!Edited by Biro123 on September 14, 2018 7:07PMMinalan owes me a beer.
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Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I wonder how the decision making process went when they decided on the frag nerf.
Person 1: "Hey, well we gotta nerf sumthin' ".
Person 2: "Well, there's frags. That's a skill. Frags exists".
Person 1: "Crap, frags DOES exist. But it isn't overperforming in any way, and it's a class identifying skill!"
Person 2: "Eh, who cares. We don't need a reason to justify our actions! Base it off nothing!"
Must've gone something like that, amirite?
Frags WAS over performing.
Sure thing! And pigs fly, yes?
I’m not following your logic.
High damage, hard CC stun, free cast skill was not um....over performing?
Bruh.
It was not free, could be blocked and dodged very easily, as well as reflected...
Plus let's just ignore things like DBoS and Incap Strike...you know those high damage hard CC stun skills with very low ult costs...heh
Frags proc for a free cast. Whether your target is smart enough to counter is another story.
I’m not sure I’m following the Ultimate part. Incap has been adjusted, I don’t think DB is that bad unless you are part of the current Vamp meta.
50% reduced cost. You're thinking of the NB bow proc, which is free and hits harder
Nah, referring to the Nowind up on the frag.
Seriously guys. I recall a poor sap that I hit with frags like a machine gun. Proc after proc. It really needed to be toned down.2 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I wonder how the decision making process went when they decided on the frag nerf.
Person 1: "Hey, well we gotta nerf sumthin' ".
Person 2: "Well, there's frags. That's a skill. Frags exists".
Person 1: "Crap, frags DOES exist. But it isn't overperforming in any way, and it's a class identifying skill!"
Person 2: "Eh, who cares. We don't need a reason to justify our actions! Base it off nothing!"
Must've gone something like that, amirite?
Frags WAS over performing.
Sure thing! And pigs fly, yes?
I’m not following your logic.
High damage, hard CC stun, free cast skill was not um....over performing?
Bruh.
It was not free, could be blocked and dodged very easily, as well as reflected...
Plus let's just ignore things like DBoS and Incap Strike...you know those high damage hard CC stun skills with very low ult costs...heh
Frags proc for a free cast. Whether your target is smart enough to counter is another story.
I’m not sure I’m following the Ultimate part. Incap has been adjusted, I don’t think DB is that bad unless you are part of the current Vamp meta.
50% reduced cost. You're thinking of the NB bow proc, which is free and hits harder
Nah, referring to the Nowind up on the frag.
Seriously guys. I recall a poor sap that I hit with frags like a machine gun. Proc after proc. It really needed to be toned down.
Frag was literally the most counterable cc in the game.
Block
Dodge
Reflect
Oh and the sorc's hand glowed purple so you knew it was coming.
Removing the cc of frag wouldn't of changed anything about the 'poor sap you hit like a machine gun' because of cc immunity. The fact you can proc 3 times in 3 skills or 0 times in 10 hasn't changed.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...2 -
JimmyJuJu✭✭✭✭I wonder if it has something to do with the sheer volume of unpaid zerg ball accounts running high-elf AD magsorcs in pvp.
Nah. Couldn't be that.
You obviously havent been to Cyro for a long time. The sheer volume of sorc in Cyro is at 3 right now. After shield nerfs it will drop to a single sado-maso person still running MagSorc.
Lol, 3. Then I am the most unlucky mofo in all of Cyro - getting the endless fury/haunting curse death recap from the same 3 magsorcs. This is not a good week to play powerball.2 -
Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I wonder how the decision making process went when they decided on the frag nerf.
Person 1: "Hey, well we gotta nerf sumthin' ".
Person 2: "Well, there's frags. That's a skill. Frags exists".
Person 1: "Crap, frags DOES exist. But it isn't overperforming in any way, and it's a class identifying skill!"
Person 2: "Eh, who cares. We don't need a reason to justify our actions! Base it off nothing!"
Must've gone something like that, amirite?
Frags WAS over performing.
Sure thing! And pigs fly, yes?
I’m not following your logic.
High damage, hard CC stun, free cast skill was not um....over performing?
Bruh.
It was not free, could be blocked and dodged very easily, as well as reflected...
Plus let's just ignore things like DBoS and Incap Strike...you know those high damage hard CC stun skills with very low ult costs...heh
Frags proc for a free cast. Whether your target is smart enough to counter is another story.
I’m not sure I’m following the Ultimate part. Incap has been adjusted, I don’t think DB is that bad unless you are part of the current Vamp meta.
50% reduced cost. You're thinking of the NB bow proc, which is free and hits harder
Nah, referring to the Nowind up on the frag.
Seriously guys. I recall a poor sap that I hit with frags like a machine gun. Proc after proc. It really needed to be toned down.
Frag was literally the most counterable cc in the game.
Block
Dodge
Reflect
Oh and the sorc's hand glowed purple so you knew it was coming.
Removing the cc of frag wouldn't of changed anything about the 'poor sap you hit like a machine gun' because of cc immunity. The fact you can proc 3 times in 3 skills or 0 times in 10 hasn't changed.
I’m sorry to say guys. It had to be done.
If you took an honest look at the class, in comparison to others. Changes had to be made.
Even after all the changes, Sorcerers are still the second best class overall in my opinion.
Players in any game, gravitate to the most unbalanced class or gun or weapon available. They will also defend it to their dying breath. Balance is important.3