IC needs a facelift, plain and simple. While new players as well as the few vets that haven't farmed the place to death still exist, there just isn't enough incentive to actually bother going back for those of us that have farmed it.

Alchemy Satchels and Hakeijos are probably the only things worth getting with Tel Var anymore since Polymorphs and Storage Chests are 1 time purchases but since this is year 3 of IC, chances are pretty high that most veteran players have already gotten those from last year's event, if not sooner. The Tel Var sets are meh at best and Key Fragments aren't worth much since Willpower/Agility/Endurace are given out for free from Random Duty Finder, Xyvkin Motifs are valueless and the Dungeon sets that were never in high demand to begin with have fallen even further down the line now that Olorime devalued SPC, even if SPC still has a place in 4 man and PvP.

The District flags also destroyed what made IC so great in the 1st place, combat between enemy players without Horse Simulators getting in the way. It was more engaging than Cyrodiil but that was completely killed off with Flags that add nothing to IC other than Tel Var bonuses, which again are more or less used only for Alchemy satchels and Hakeijos, effectively making districts useless for much of anything.

You want IC to be relevant, buff up the Tel Var sets to be worth something (Blackrose, Reaction, and Shieldbreaker notwithstanding). Have Powerful Assault and Meritorious Service affect 6 people instead of 4 (also change MS to provide something actually useful since the miniscule armor buff it gives gets eaten thru with how high Penetration values are). Rework the vaults to contain purple jewelry of TelVar sets, or even better, revamp the old 3 piece Dungeon sets, like Relics of the Ancients, and put them in the vaults. Have Bosses (both City and Sewers) drop sets native to IC as well as Xyvkin motif pages. REMOVE THE FLAGS!!!!

#makeICgreatagain

When you want the Xyvkin dreadhorn from the TV store but don’t have enough bc half of hard-earned TV’s get takin away.

I get hate messages all day. It’s fun.

My friends aren’t that into it since it’s zergy.. wish we could small group pvp again in eso

I can't speak for others, but I really dislike the massive population style of PvP. Zergs are simply antithetical to good PvP play, regardless of environment. These events only encourage more zerg play. I'll pass.

Almakor wrote: »

I remember the last IC event had the servers bursting. But for some reason very few seem to be participating I don't PVP so without a big group I'm easy pickings for all the hardcore PVP players. Since the event starting I've only been in 3 groups. Why is the event not as popular as it was last time?

IC was cool when it was small battles. It's essentially zergs running around now so not my thing.

Don't need the Tel Var that bad.

Thogard wrote: »

If you get 2x tel var for each boss you kill
And you lose half of it when you die
And every time you die you bank your tel var

Then this event is basically allowing PvE players to get the regular amount of tel var they would get as if it was a normal time period and they didn’t lose any for dying.


That being said, it’s fun to wipe 30+ with 4-6 people.

And right there is where PVP ends.

Those 30+ PVEers log out for the night and the server is empty again.
And your 4-6 people have to find pvp elsewhere.

Its just a bad design around tel-var thievery. No event will help IC.
A redesign is required.

Haashhtaag wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Losing 50% Telvar on death is a lot, ZOS is not fixing this (should reduce to 20%) and hence many not wanted to join the fight.

I assume you weren’t around when it was 80%

I am talking about present not past. I have been farming TV in districts and Molag bal since event started. There are many reasons for lower turnout intact one is losing your half TV's on death.

IC needs new Gear and unique items to attract more players.

Fur_like_snow wrote: »

IC is just poorly designed because it favors gankers(people who have less than 1k stones on them at any given time) who have the least to lose while anyone farming tel var is at the disadvantage because they have way more to lose in stones and time. i can kill a ganker 10 tens on a flag but he can keep jumping down with no penalty for dying and no stones to lose. so the ganker finally gets lucky and kills the farmer whille he is fighting a boss or another player so he banks his stones and logs off. this is why IC is a ghost town no happy medium between these two parties.

What about a loot system? When you have to loot the telvars from a killed enemy it would make ganking more difficult. Buddies could protect the killed player, revive him and he wouldn't lose stones...

To the people who are complaining about getting killed solo in IC: ESO is still an MMORPG.

Haashhtaag wrote: »

Didgerion wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

If you get 2x tel var for each boss you kill
And you lose half of it when you die
And every time you die you bank your tel var

Then this event is basically allowing PvE players to get the regular amount of tel var they would get as if it was a normal time period and they didn’t lose any for dying.


That being said, it’s fun to wipe 30+ with 4-6 people.

And right there is where PVP ends.

Those 30+ PVEers log out for the night and the server is empty again.
And your 4-6 people have to find pvp elsewhere.

Its just a bad design around tel-var thievery. No event will help IC.
A redesign is required.

Didgerion wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

If you get 2x tel var for each boss you kill
And you lose half of it when you die
And every time you die you bank your tel var

Then this event is basically allowing PvE players to get the regular amount of tel var they would get as if it was a normal time period and they didn’t lose any for dying.


That being said, it’s fun to wipe 30+ with 4-6 people.

And right there is where PVP ends.

Those 30+ PVEers log out for the night and the server is empty again.
And your 4-6 people have to find pvp elsewhere.

Its just a bad design around tel-var thievery. No event will help IC.
A redesign is required.

I think people need to realize IC was a PvP DLC. Like how is that not getting through to y’all?

It is not a PVP DLC, it is a PVE DLC with PVP mechanics turned on. The ultimate goal of the area is farming and not PVP-ing.

Maybe if they reduced amount of TV lost when killed more people would come?

Fur_like_snow wrote: »

Your PvP DLC is a ghost town outside of the event regardless of how it was originally intended. A redesign could bring new life into the districts if ZoS was willing to make some changes to accommodate both parties.

Could you imagine if someone proposed the reverse? Make any low-population PvE zones open for PvP to encourage play there?

anadandy wrote: »

Gargath wrote: »

I think some kind of neutral flag status would be necessary for noobs such as me .
For a fixed time, can buy this time for either gold or telvars, the flag grants immunity to all pvp activities there. Cannot harm anyone, no one can harm me. Can or cannot participate in killing monsters with other pvpers, and can e.g. receive only half the amount of telvars that usually drop for pvpers. Seems a fair way to increase population inside .

Wow. This is probably one of the most reasonable suggestions for PVE without PVP in IC I've ever seen. Honestly - well done!

Also sounds like a great way to have a PvP spy that just tells their own faction exactly what's going on with no danger of being killed, setting up the opportunity for some kind of huge ambush.

I go to IC Sewers because of the risk/reward. I mean if I want to just boringly grind mats or gold, I'll just go grind the Senche cats.

Oh what if with 100k-200k TV you can buy one gold jewelry plate for crafting? That would be a great way for EVERYONE to scramble into IC.