I had pretty much forgotten a set I had the pieces on multiple toons for storage. Dusted it off recently for the Imperial City event...

The L2P comments and utter salt :'( are too funny, learn to play without stacking shields, and there would be NO REASON to have this set in the game! Every other ability has a counter in game. The developers created it for a reason, obviously.

I am golding it out (My set) this evening. :'(

LOL

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

I had pretty much forgotten a set I had the pieces on multiple toons for storage. Dusted it off recently for the Imperial City event...

The L2P comments and utter salt :'( are too funny, learn to play without stacking shields, and there would be NO REASON to have this set in the game! Every other ability has a counter in game. The developers created it for a reason, obviously.

I am golding it out (My set) this evening. :'(

LOL

Yeah.. except the set is nothing to do with stacking, and as people keep saying, yet magsorcs have no choice. They cannot get enough sustain to run heavy and cannot get enough heals to survive in light without shields(and also not enough healing to survive shieldbreaker with shields). It isn't a L2P issue - its simply a broken set vs one class.

You may as well say to a permablocker 'L2P without blocking'.. or to a rollerblade 'L2P without dodging'.. kind of silly...

Oddly, there was a hard counter to rollerblades.. it was called runecage and guess what happened to it? Where's the same treatment to shieldbreaker?

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

I had pretty much forgotten a set I had the pieces on multiple toons for storage. Dusted it off recently for the Imperial City event...

The L2P comments and utter salt :'( are too funny, learn to play without stacking shields, and there would be NO REASON to have this set in the game! Every other ability has a counter in game. The developers created it for a reason, obviously.

I am golding it out (My set) this evening. :'(

LOL

Yeah.. except the set is nothing to do with stacking, and as people keep saying, yet magsorcs have no choice. They cannot get enough sustain to run heavy and cannot get enough heals to survive in light without shields(and also not enough healing to survive shieldbreaker with shields). It isn't a L2P issue - its simply a broken set vs one class.

You may as well say to a permablocker 'L2P without blocking'.. or to a rollerblade 'L2P without dodging'.. kind of silly...

Oddly, there was a hard counter to rollerblades.. it was called runecage and guess what happened to it? Where's the same treatment to shieldbreaker?

I am just LOL'ing at this thread, actually EVERY TIME it gets brought up.

As I stated previously, every skill has a counter, obviously the people who created the game thought this set was necessary. I will gold mine out, and run it with Sload's. Why the heck not?!

Ok, without running shields, I guess. Everyone on this forum that does not like something cries foul. Tell the sorcs to stop spamming Haunting Curse while you are posting threads

To be fair it would probably be stronger with assassins guile and magicka cost poisons.

Biro123 wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

I had pretty much forgotten a set I had the pieces on multiple toons for storage. Dusted it off recently for the Imperial City event...

The L2P comments and utter salt :'( are too funny, learn to play without stacking shields, and there would be NO REASON to have this set in the game! Every other ability has a counter in game. The developers created it for a reason, obviously.

I am golding it out (My set) this evening. :'(

LOL

Yeah.. except the set is nothing to do with stacking, and as people keep saying, yet magsorcs have no choice. They cannot get enough sustain to run heavy and cannot get enough heals to survive in light without shields(and also not enough healing to survive shieldbreaker with shields). It isn't a L2P issue - its simply a broken set vs one class.

You may as well say to a permablocker 'L2P without blocking'.. or to a rollerblade 'L2P without dodging'.. kind of silly...

Oddly, there was a hard counter to rollerblades.. it was called runecage and guess what happened to it? Where's the same treatment to shieldbreaker?

I am just LOL'ing at this thread, actually EVERY TIME it gets brought up.

As I stated previously, every skill has a counter, obviously the people who created the game thought this set was necessary. I will gold mine out, and run it with Sload's. Why the heck not?!

Ok, without running shields, I guess. Everyone on this forum that does not like something cries foul. Tell the sorcs to stop spamming Haunting Curse while you are posting threads

Are you trolling?
Yeah, everything has a counter.. BUT NOT TO THAT EXTENT

How does a haunting curse every 4 seconds equate to spamming and how is that alone going to kill a rollerblade? Its a soft counter - ie it only goes part of the way. Shieldbreaker is a HARD counter. It 100% counters the class - and not only that takes 0 skill to use.

I can see you're the kind of person who cares nothing for balance as long as they can find something overpowered to crutch on to get at least some kills - so its totally pointless discussing balance with you.

Now who's trolling? You don't know me, or anything about how I play!

I beta tested this game, and then moved to PS4,.. and still keep my PC account active. Mind yourself.

If you main a sorc, them you're as bad as the people that start ALL the nerf this, nerf that threads.

I am running this set on a Stamplar. If you die to Shieldbreaker you suck. End of story, get good, find friends, or delete your characters and uninstall.

Now I am going to tbag, too!

Good day, Sir.

Biro123 wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

I had pretty much forgotten a set I had the pieces on multiple toons for storage. Dusted it off recently for the Imperial City event...

The L2P comments and utter salt :'( are too funny, learn to play without stacking shields, and there would be NO REASON to have this set in the game! Every other ability has a counter in game. The developers created it for a reason, obviously.

I am golding it out (My set) this evening. :'(

LOL

Yeah.. except the set is nothing to do with stacking, and as people keep saying, yet magsorcs have no choice. They cannot get enough sustain to run heavy and cannot get enough heals to survive in light without shields(and also not enough healing to survive shieldbreaker with shields). It isn't a L2P issue - its simply a broken set vs one class.

You may as well say to a permablocker 'L2P without blocking'.. or to a rollerblade 'L2P without dodging'.. kind of silly...

Oddly, there was a hard counter to rollerblades.. it was called runecage and guess what happened to it? Where's the same treatment to shieldbreaker?

I am just LOL'ing at this thread, actually EVERY TIME it gets brought up.

As I stated previously, every skill has a counter, obviously the people who created the game thought this set was necessary. I will gold mine out, and run it with Sload's. Why the heck not?!

Ok, without running shields, I guess. Everyone on this forum that does not like something cries foul. Tell the sorcs to stop spamming Haunting Curse while you are posting threads

Are you trolling?
Yeah, everything has a counter.. BUT NOT TO THAT EXTENT

How does a haunting curse every 4 seconds equate to spamming and how is that alone going to kill a rollerblade? Its a soft counter - ie it only goes part of the way. Shieldbreaker is a HARD counter. It 100% counters the class - and not only that takes 0 skill to use.

I can see you're the kind of person who cares nothing for balance as long as they can find something overpowered to crutch on to get at least some kills - so its totally pointless discussing balance with you.

Now who's trolling? You don't know me, or anything about how I play!

I beta tested this game, and then moved to PS4,.. and still keep my PC account active. Mind yourself.

If you main a sorc, them you're as bad as the people that start ALL the nerf this, nerf that threads.

I am running this set on a Stamplar. If you die to Shieldbreaker you suck. End of story, get good, find friends, or delete your characters and uninstall.

Now I am going to tbag, too!

Good day, Sir.

Lol! Hit a nerve? Does being a beta tester make you right or automatically care about balance? That's news to me.

FWIW I've played only stamblade and stamplar since not long after summerset came out. I have no axe to grind for magsorc - I'm bored with the class - so unlike you, I'm not looking to buff what I play, what I do.. I just understand balance issues - and shieldbreaker is currently the worst of them.

No nerve struck, anywhere?

I literally posted that I forgot I had the set, perhaps English is not your 1st language,...so you get a pass.

Good on ya, mate! Have a great day!

LOL

Gnozo wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

I had pretty much forgotten a set I had the pieces on multiple toons for storage. Dusted it off recently for the Imperial City event...

The L2P comments and utter salt :'( are too funny, learn to play without stacking shields, and there would be NO REASON to have this set in the game! Every other ability has a counter in game. The developers created it for a reason, obviously.

I am golding it out (My set) this evening. :'(

LOL

Yeah.. except the set is nothing to do with stacking, and as people keep saying, yet magsorcs have no choice. They cannot get enough sustain to run heavy and cannot get enough heals to survive in light without shields(and also not enough healing to survive shieldbreaker with shields). It isn't a L2P issue - its simply a broken set vs one class.

You may as well say to a permablocker 'L2P without blocking'.. or to a rollerblade 'L2P without dodging'.. kind of silly...

Oddly, there was a hard counter to rollerblades.. it was called runecage and guess what happened to it? Where's the same treatment to shieldbreaker?

I am just LOL'ing at this thread, actually EVERY TIME it gets brought up.

As I stated previously, every skill has a counter, obviously the people who created the game thought this set was necessary. I will gold mine out, and run it with Sload's. Why the heck not?!

Ok, without running shields, I guess. Everyone on this forum that does not like something cries foul. Tell the sorcs to stop spamming Haunting Curse while you are posting threads

Are you trolling?
Yeah, everything has a counter.. BUT NOT TO THAT EXTENT

How does a haunting curse every 4 seconds equate to spamming and how is that alone going to kill a rollerblade? Its a soft counter - ie it only goes part of the way. Shieldbreaker is a HARD counter. It 100% counters the class - and not only that takes 0 skill to use.

I can see you're the kind of person who cares nothing for balance as long as they can find something overpowered to crutch on to get at least some kills - so its totally pointless discussing balance with you.

Now who's trolling? You don't know me, or anything about how I play!

I beta tested this game, and then moved to PS4,.. and still keep my PC account active. Mind yourself.

If you main a sorc, them you're as bad as the people that start ALL the nerf this, nerf that threads.

I am running this set on a Stamplar. If you die to Shieldbreaker you suck. End of story, get good, find friends, or delete your characters and uninstall.

Now I am going to tbag, too!

Good day, Sir.

Lol! Hit a nerve? Does being a beta tester make you right or automatically care about balance? That's news to me.

FWIW I've played only stamblade and stamplar since not long after summerset came out. I have no axe to grind for magsorc - I'm bored with the class - so unlike you, I'm not looking to buff what I play, what I do.. I just understand balance issues - and shieldbreaker is currently the worst of them.

No nerve struck, anywhere?

I literally posted that I forgot I had the set, perhaps English is not your 1st language,...so you get a pass.

Good on ya, mate! Have a great day!

LOL

Oh since you have a pc Account maybe want to meet on pts and show me how you survive my light attack spam with shieldbreaker as a magsorc with a Build that has decent damage and sustain?

100% sure you wont even answer this cause no one can survive this and our duel would show how stupid you and your arguments are.

If you cant kill a magsorc without shieldbreaker you simply suck. And you suck since Beta .

Are all you shield stackers illiterate, or what?

Learn to read,...Aaaand then try to come at me...BOY. Do you know how many hateful whispers I get? (Before this event and before I put my Shieldbreaker set BACK ON) 1v1 me...You're all the same.

I don't, nor have I ever claimed to be good. You all run Alcast builds, and before that you all WORSHIPPED Deltia.
I eat you dress wearing Nancy's for lunch daily.

HA HA HA HA HA

So much for the constructive discussion.

Bergzorn wrote: »

So much for the constructive discussion.

I actually think you can’t have a constructive discussion other than “rework the set” in this case.

Feanor wrote: »

Bergzorn wrote: »

So much for the constructive discussion.

I actually think you can’t have a constructive discussion other than “rework the set” in this case.

I am 100% certain, that if there were 'Stamina shields' there would be an "OP" set, light armor with the same basically NOT GOOD STATS, designed to go directly against them.

Aaaand other people would have their panties un-twisted, while others' were gripped by huge knots in theirs.

Plain and simple.

Gnozo, I'll meet you behind the school at 3:05 after class. You bring your boys, and I'll bring mine. No rules!

(I'm working currently)

Gnozo wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

Bergzorn wrote: »

So much for the constructive discussion.

I actually think you can’t have a constructive discussion other than “rework the set” in this case.

I am 100% certain, that if there were 'Stamina shields' there would be an "OP" set, light armor with the same basically NOT GOOD STATS, designed to go directly against them.

Aaaand other people would have their panties un-twisted, while others' were gripped by huge knots in theirs.

Plain and simple.

Gnozo, I'll meet you behind the school at 3:05 after class. You bring your boys, and I'll bring mine. No rules!

(I'm working currently)

I am working too but we can do in the evening.

Why all the players who claim shieldbreaker is balanced and a magsorc has a valid chance against it always refuse to proof their arguments in a duel?

If you are still referring to me, you've not read one thing I posted yet**

I said it is in the game for a reason, to counter shields. (It goes through all magical shields, not just Sorcs I believe..Dunno why all the Sorc butthurt in this convo everytime?)

Gnozo wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

Bergzorn wrote: »

So much for the constructive discussion.

I actually think you can’t have a constructive discussion other than “rework the set” in this case.

I am 100% certain, that if there were 'Stamina shields' there would be an "OP" set, light armor with the same basically NOT GOOD STATS, designed to go directly against them.

Aaaand other people would have their panties un-twisted, while others' were gripped by huge knots in theirs.

Plain and simple.

Gnozo, I'll meet you behind the school at 3:05 after class. You bring your boys, and I'll bring mine. No rules!

(I'm working currently)

I am working too but we can do in the evening.

Why all the players who claim shieldbreaker is balanced and a magsorc has a valid chance against it always refuse to proof their arguments in a duel?

If you are still referring to me, you've not read one thing I posted yet**

I said it is in the game for a reason, to counter shields. (It goes through all magical shields, not just Sorcs I believe..Dunno why all the Sorc butthurt in this convo everytime?)

Sorcs are "butthurt" cause its our only defense. And this set is a hardcounter for our defense. Only thing we can do is run and streak away.

And you think this is 100% fine. Its not. Thats not how a game should work. This is not balance. And if you only using this set to garther sorc tears cause you like to kill the fun from a player he has on this game you have some serious problems.

@gonzo I cannot remember if you posted a suggestion or not but I urge you to post a suggestion that would be beneficial for both sides of the argument.

Also to everyone involved let’s try to at least stay civil, I want to avoid having this thread locked as there have been some reasonable suggestions.

One thing I had seen you talking about is how shields are a Sorcs only defense. Well I think the reason shieldbreaker is more acceptable then say a block breaker for example is that when building for block you have to sacrifice CP into shadow ward which could be used in other cost reduction, same thing with dodge roll. This isn’t the case with damage shields as you can just transfer the points from resistance because you won’t need the crit resist either way. So I feel shields have less negatives associated with them compared to the stamina alternatives.

I believe this has a lot more impact on why people feel like shieldbreaker is perfectly viable and justified.

@HankTwo another viable alternative in my opinion, I also feel this would make a set like storm master (which would do more against unshielded targets I would assume) more appealing for light attack builds.