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OP Stamina Warden Solo/Smallscale PvP Build For Summerset

  • Thogard
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    airilie wrote: »
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    Rhaegar75 wrote: »
    what makes Stamden still so OP?

    Burst potential between dizzy swing, sub assault, dawnbreaker, reverse slice combo all in about 1.5 seconds.

    Don't think it's subassault tbh. It's more the major heroism + nearly free shields, amplified heals and high health.
    If stamdens wouldn't get magicka back from shimmering they couldn't zoom in and out of the fight at will and ignore a good portion of ranged attacks. Shimmering shield is nothing but an absurd ulti gen and mitigation tool. It leads to a distribution of ressources. Where other stamclasses need to spend stamina (block, dodge) on or have to invest magicka (wings or cloak) stamden gets a free buff on top of magicka return.

    Anything that can get absorbed by shim shield can get a force-miss from vanish or deleted by the sorc teleport that absorbs projectiles. Or just LoS’d. Many of the best wardens don’t use shim shield if they know they have good LoS options nearby.

    The class healing is good in theory but not better than a stam sorc or Stam DK in practice. Stamden doesn’t have enough mag to keep uptime on all those buffs, even in CP. in reality, I think Stam sorc actually gets a little more passive healing than stamden.

    Sub assault is why wardens are OP.

    Yo @Thogard , could you elaborate on why you said stamDK's have better heals than stamwarden? I generally trust your input, but that one is news to me and I've been playing stamDK a lot the past few weeks

    Stamden has better healing for the group but the healing received passive of Stam DK is strong. So is major mending, and so is getting a pretty nice heal every time you use an ult.

    Neither spores nor vines are sustainable for a warden. You’ll run out of Stam or mag... those two abilities are just there to counter burst. If you try to keel 100% uptime on vines you won’t have mag left over for shimmering shield + ice fortress.

    Trees are solid healing, it’s true. But it’s a lot easier to kill a warden inside of its trees than it is to kill a DK that pops corrosive.
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  • Finviuswe
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    Thogard wrote: »


    Trees are solid healing, it’s true. But it’s a lot easier to kill a warden inside of its trees than it is to kill a DK that pops corrosive

    Undoubtedly true, the days of trees being OP have long passed. That nerf was long ago

    Now it's a pretty good heal, still worth running. But there are stronger defensive ults in the game. Corrosive provides better defense, resto ult provides better defense.
  • HansProlo
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    what would you change for non cp battlegrounds? i guess fury might not be the best choice
  • olesmo
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    HansProlo wrote: »
    what would you change for non cp battlegrounds? i guess fury might not be the best choice

    this build is dont work in No cp, u rely on 120 points in atro to proc truth, and fury is only good in CP where ppl have higher crit chance.

    need to run a completely different setup for no cp, i dont have one since i dont play no cp
  • olesmo
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    HansProlo wrote: »
    olesmo, can you plz write down the build in short, i cant watch the videos.

    skills, armor, weapon

    thx

    what do u mean u cant watch the videos? is it not available on mobile or something?

    what build where u curious about? the spin 2 win build isnt mine, and my friend dont want me to share it.
    the cleave build is master twohander (nirn wep dmg), truth backbar s&b (decisive), fury body and bloodspawn.

    brawler, reverse slice, sub, dswing, forward momentum, DB
    vigor, spores, shimmering, lotus, ice fortress, permafrost
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