OP Stamina Warden Solo/Smallscale PvP Build For Summerset

olesmo · May 2018

sharing my stamina warden setup I have been using for the last months

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19CtibKJCpY&feature=youtu.be

Thogard · May 2018

I always wanted to try this combo but never got the pieces together. Do you have any gameplay footage?

olesmo · May 2018

Thogard wrote: »

I always wanted to try this combo but never got the pieces together. Do you have any gameplay footage?

i have atleast 3 pvp videos on my chanel with master twohander

SpiderCultist · May 2018

luckily got 1 master maul, but do you think it's completely necessary?

+Liked on youtube

olesmo · May 2018

its what makes bombing big groups possible, cleave without master twohander is just a wasted skill tbh.

SpiderCultist · May 2018

olesmo wrote: »

its what makes bombing big groups possible, cleave without master twohander is just a wasted skill tbh.

Thanks. I have some leftovers here and there, what would you think about running troll king + werewolf hide (instead of truth) + seventh legion (instead of fury) + master maul ? I know it's another kind of build but looks like you are quite experienced with stamWardens.

olesmo · May 2018

SpiderCultist wrote: »

olesmo wrote: »

its what makes bombing big groups possible, cleave without master twohander is just a wasted skill tbh.

Thanks. I have some leftovers here and there, what would you think about running troll king + werewolf hide (instead of truth) + seventh legion (instead of fury) + master maul ? I know it's another kind of build but looks like you are quite experienced with stamWardens.

i have tried playing with troll king, but i always come back to bloodspawn. its just to good.
seventh is rly good to have on body, ww hides is good on backbar. but you wont have close to the weapon dmg that i have, wich helps both offencively and defencively.

blackelf74 · May 2018

i'm actually running Seventh Legion + Fury + Blood Spawn on a Redguard Stamina Warden,pure entertainment

dazee · May 2018

Were you that hillariously OP warden that it took 5 of us to kill in Kyne Cyrodil the other day?

olesmo · May 2018

dazee wrote: »

Were you that hillariously OP warden that it took 5 of us to kill in Kyne Cyrodil the other day?

im called Neil Anblomee / @olesmo ingame. i dont remember tbh xD

dazee · May 2018

olesmo wrote: »

dazee wrote: »

Were you that hillariously OP warden that it took 5 of us to kill in Kyne Cyrodil the other day?

im called Neil Anblomee / @olesmo ingame. i dont remember tbh xD

Hmm if you play EP it might not have been you since I believe this warden was DC.

olesmo · May 2018

dazee wrote: »

olesmo wrote: »

dazee wrote: »

Were you that hillariously OP warden that it took 5 of us to kill in Kyne Cyrodil the other day?

im called Neil Anblomee / @olesmo ingame. i dont remember tbh xD

Hmm if you play EP it might not have been you since I believe this warden was DC.

i think u mean extraveldt then :P he runs a super tanky setup

Vapirko · May 2018

Man i really need to get around to vDSA. It’s the 4 man group that puts me off lol. Just can’t usually find people who want to work through it. vMA was fine and it’s too bad those weapons got nerfed so hard. Cool build though. I’m prob gonna run fury and 7th for use in my duo with Templar healer after this patch. Transmute fury jewlery to stamina. Gonna be a lot of op builds this patch.

olesmo · May 2018

Vapirko wrote: »

Man i really need to get around to vDSA. It’s the 4 man group that puts me off lol. Just can’t usually find people who want to work through it. vMA was fine and it’s too bad those weapons got nerfed so hard. Cool build though. I’m prob gonna run fury and 7th for use in my duo with Templar healer after this patch. Transmute fury jewlery to stamina. Gonna be a lot of op builds this patch.

way better to get truth on backbar, easier uptime while offencive

FakeZavos · May 2018

Holy ***. Thats a sick build man. Seen it in action! Amazing!

GC0 · May 2018

*** build :^)

Strider__Roshin · May 2018

You really don't need to put "OP" and "stam warden" in the same title. It's kind of implied.

Own · May 2018

Fury, 7th, ravager, truth. Just put them rogether in any combo with bloodspawn and you got a "build".

Very Impressed with masters 2h!

Here's a nugget. Steel Tornado proc's ravager. If you hit mutiple targets it will proc. Outnumbered pvp you're looking at 90% uptime. 9 meter radius and all. L

Minno · May 2018

Own wrote: »

Fury, 7th, ravager, truth. Just put them rogether in any combo with bloodspawn and you got a "build".

Very Impressed with masters 2h!

Here's a nugget. Steel Tornado proc's ravager. If you hit mutiple targets it will proc. Outnumbered pvp you're looking at 90% uptime. 9 meter radius and all. L

So did hidden blade I think. Or it could be the enchant it procs.

Own · May 2018

Minno wrote: »

Own wrote: »

Fury, 7th, ravager, truth. Just put them rogether in any combo with bloodspawn and you got a "build".

Very Impressed with masters 2h!

Here's a nugget. Steel Tornado proc's ravager. If you hit mutiple targets it will proc. Outnumbered pvp you're looking at 90% uptime. 9 meter radius and all. L

So did hidden blade I think. Or it could be the enchant it procs.

disease and poison enchants do proc it. Now tell me your secrets about Time Stop!

Rhaegar75 · May 2018

what makes Stamden still so OP?

Hutch679 · May 2018

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

what makes Stamden still so OP?

Burst potential between dizzy swing, sub assault, dawnbreaker, reverse slice combo all in about 1.5 seconds.

Berenhir · May 2018

Hutch679 wrote: »

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

what makes Stamden still so OP?

Burst potential between dizzy swing, sub assault, dawnbreaker, reverse slice combo all in about 1.5 seconds.

Don't think it's subassault tbh. It's more the major heroism + nearly free shields, amplified heals and high health.
If stamdens wouldn't get magicka back from shimmering they couldn't zoom in and out of the fight at will and ignore a good portion of ranged attacks. Shimmering shield is nothing but an absurd ulti gen and mitigation tool. It leads to a distribution of ressources. Where other stamclasses need to spend stamina (block, dodge) on or have to invest magicka (wings or cloak) stamden gets a free buff on top of magicka return.

Ishammael · May 2018

Berenhir wrote: »

Hutch679 wrote: »

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

what makes Stamden still so OP?

Burst potential between dizzy swing, sub assault, dawnbreaker, reverse slice combo all in about 1.5 seconds.

Don't think it's subassault tbh. It's more the major heroism + nearly free shields, amplified heals and high health.
If stamdens wouldn't get magicka back from shimmering they couldn't zoom in and out of the fight at will and ignore a good portion of ranged attacks. Shimmering shield is nothing but an absurd ulti gen and mitigation tool. It leads to a distribution of ressources. Where other stamclasses need to spend stamina (block, dodge) on or have to invest magicka (wings or cloak) stamden gets a free buff on top of magicka return.

No, sub is everything. It's a delayed, unblocked nuke.
The rest is just gravy.

BohnT · May 2018

It's both that make stamwarden so strong/ too strong.
In one moment you can turtle up and survive against 5 enemies and in the next you turn around and unleash a huge AoE burst into them that has a huge killing potential.

Imo the main issue is Major Heroism, no one should have an easy time keeping it up 100% of the time especially when it gives you full range mitigation.

Shalks are another problem as they work like an AoE Curse that has huge range and ignores the main stamina defences, LoS, Block and Dodge.
I'd be up for splitting the damage, let it deal 1/3 on activating it and 2/3 after 3 seconds. This keeps the overall damage output the same but makes it harder to just stack shalks with a warden group and instantly nuke anyone you'll see.

olesmo · May 2018

well, after the increase cost on shimemring. its way harder to use and keep defencive buffs up. and i agree that major heroism needs a tune down.

Own · May 2018

BohnT wrote: »

It's both that make stamwarden so strong/ too strong.
In one moment you can turtle up and survive against 5 enemies and in the next you turn around and unleash a huge AoE burst into them that has a huge killing potential.

Imo the main issue is Major Heroism, no one should have an easy time keeping it up 100% of the time especially when it gives you full range mitigation.

Shalks are another problem as they work like an AoE Curse that has huge range and ignores the main stamina defences, LoS, Block and Dodge.
I'd be up for splitting the damage, let it deal 1/3 on activating it and 2/3 after 3 seconds. This keeps the overall damage output the same but makes it harder to just stack shalks with a warden group and instantly nuke anyone you'll see.

Tank and Spank got old years ago! I can't play it out of boredom. Too Easy. Range immune, limitless ult regen, best burst, passive major mending..

Hutch679 · May 2018

BohnT wrote: »

It's both that make stamwarden so strong/ too strong.
In one moment you can turtle up and survive against 5 enemies and in the next you turn around and unleash a huge AoE burst into them that has a huge killing potential.

Imo the main issue is Major Heroism, no one should have an easy time keeping it up 100% of the time especially when it gives you full range mitigation.

Shalks are another problem as they work like an AoE Curse that has huge range and ignores the main stamina defences, LoS, Block and Dodge.
I'd be up for splitting the damage, let it deal 1/3 on activating it and 2/3 after 3 seconds. This keeps the overall damage output the same but makes it harder to just stack shalks with a warden group and instantly nuke anyone you'll see.

If this happens, they need to buff other damage (i.e. cutting dive). Don't forget stamina wardens get 2 damage skills out of 3 skill trees.

exiars10 · May 2018

Hutch679 wrote: »

BohnT wrote: »

It's both that make stamwarden so strong/ too strong.
In one moment you can turtle up and survive against 5 enemies and in the next you turn around and unleash a huge AoE burst into them that has a huge killing potential.

Imo the main issue is Major Heroism, no one should have an easy time keeping it up 100% of the time especially when it gives you full range mitigation.

Shalks are another problem as they work like an AoE Curse that has huge range and ignores the main stamina defences, LoS, Block and Dodge.
I'd be up for splitting the damage, let it deal 1/3 on activating it and 2/3 after 3 seconds. This keeps the overall damage output the same but makes it harder to just stack shalks with a warden group and instantly nuke anyone you'll see.

If this happens, they need to buff other damage (i.e. cutting dive). Don't forget stamina wardens get 2 damage skills out of 3 skill trees.

It has actually 3 (bear ulti)

and why Swarm doesn't have stamina version...

TheRedRavenTR · May 2018

BohnT wrote: »

It's both that make stamwarden so strong/ too strong.
In one moment you can turtle up and survive against 5 enemies and in the next you turn around and unleash a huge AoE burst into them that has a huge killing potential.

Sounds like old stamdk

Thogard · May 2018

Berenhir wrote: »

Hutch679 wrote: »

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

what makes Stamden still so OP?

Burst potential between dizzy swing, sub assault, dawnbreaker, reverse slice combo all in about 1.5 seconds.

Don't think it's subassault tbh. It's more the major heroism + nearly free shields, amplified heals and high health.
If stamdens wouldn't get magicka back from shimmering they couldn't zoom in and out of the fight at will and ignore a good portion of ranged attacks. Shimmering shield is nothing but an absurd ulti gen and mitigation tool. It leads to a distribution of ressources. Where other stamclasses need to spend stamina (block, dodge) on or have to invest magicka (wings or cloak) stamden gets a free buff on top of magicka return.

Anything that can get absorbed by shim shield can get a force-miss from vanish or deleted by the sorc teleport that absorbs projectiles. Or just LoS’d. Many of the best wardens don’t use shim shield if they know they have good LoS options nearby.

The class healing is good in theory but not better than a stam sorc or Stam DK in practice. Stamden doesn’t have enough mag to keep uptime on all those buffs, even in CP. in reality, I think Stam sorc actually gets a little more passive healing than stamden.

Sub assault is why wardens are OP.