CLOSED Can PvPr’s just let me do my quest?

ezio45 · September 2018

VaranisArano wrote: »

Its a PVP zone, with no way to reliably signal that you have peaceable intentions nor any incentive for PVPers to honor that.

I suggest you prepare for PVP, either by researching a PVP build, getting a group to help you, or getting stealth gear/potions to avoid combat.

I too used to hate Cyrodiil, though in my case it was getting those Cyrodiil fish for Master Angler. But I kept coming back, for skyshards, for delve bosses, and eventually I stayed and discovered that I really enjoy PVP in Cyrodiil.

yes there is, flash block a few times. if you do that and they kill you there just a jerk

Nyladreas · September 2018

Jeremy wrote: »

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

Honestly I’m so done with Cyrodiil. I just want to do the damn quest but no, stupid PvP people have to ruin it. No wonder why people are afraid of coming here or hate it. If I ever finish the damn quest I’m never coming back.

Imperial City is basically designed to a be a "ganker's" wet dream. In fact: I would argue this game's entire PvP system is specifically designed to favor ganking and zerging. And then they wonder why the place turns into a "ghost town" unless there is an event going on....

You would think they could figure that one out on their own.

Here is a tip for the system developers in charge of PvP on this game - getting ganked isn't fun. The only people who are going to enjoy that kind of PvP are sadistic players who simply enjoy grieving others - because it's certainly not interesting game play... on either side of the equation.

So if you intend on doing PvP on this game I would stick to battlegrounds. At least there the odds are kept more fair. This game's silly PvP works best on a smaller scale with fewer people involved - because then you actually have a chance of defending yourself and actually engaging in something that resembles combat that isn't just a lame and annoying gank-fest. But I know this advice doesn't particularly help you since you need to do Imperial City for your quest.

That place is a living hell. So unless you have a group to run with I would simply avoid it. No video game award is worth the b.s. you are going to have to endure trying to solo in that sewer (and when I say sewer I don't just mean it literally).

Not only that but some players even act as double agents. You'll assemble a group and get a fair amount of tel var or go down into the sewers to engage in molag bal. Suddenly 1 players goes offline and 5 minutes later you have an entire zerg trying to steal all your hard earned ***.

This is what probably pisses me off the most in PVP. Not to mention the *** that happens in open world Cyrodiil pvp. People grabbing scrolls and delivering them to their main factions. Now that's something that should honestly be a bannable offense.

leepalmer95 · September 2018

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

Ok but seriously can there be a punishment for people ganking or camping? Like jeez I just want to get to the middle of the sewer, and I doubt anyone will group with me.

Cant people be punished for pvping in a pvp dlc zone?

No.

Go to a dead campaign or run in a zerg and just don't cry if people pvp you.

VaranisArano · September 2018

Nyladreas wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

Honestly I’m so done with Cyrodiil. I just want to do the damn quest but no, stupid PvP people have to ruin it. No wonder why people are afraid of coming here or hate it. If I ever finish the damn quest I’m never coming back.

Imperial City is basically designed to a be a "ganker's" wet dream. In fact: I would argue this game's entire PvP system is specifically designed to favor ganking and zerging. And then they wonder why the place turns into a "ghost town" unless there is an event going on....

You would think they could figure that one out on their own.

Here is a tip for the system developers in charge of PvP on this game - getting ganked isn't fun. The only people who are going to enjoy that kind of PvP are sadistic players who simply enjoy grieving others - because it's certainly not interesting game play... on either side of the equation.

So if you intend on doing PvP on this game I would stick to battlegrounds. At least there the odds are kept more fair. This game's silly PvP works best on a smaller scale with fewer people involved - because then you actually have a chance of defending yourself and actually engaging in something that resembles combat that isn't just a lame and annoying gank-fest. But I know this advice doesn't particularly help you since you need to do Imperial City for your quest.

That place is a living hell. So unless you have a group to run with I would simply avoid it. No video game award is worth the b.s. you are going to have to endure trying to solo in that sewer (and when I say sewer I don't just mean it literally).

Not only that but some players even act as double agents. You'll assemble a group and get a fair amount of tel var or go down into the sewers to engage in molag bal. Suddenly 1 players goes offline and 5 minutes later you have an entire zerg trying to steal all your hard earned ***.

This is what probably pisses me off the most in PVP. Not to mention the *** that happens in open world Cyrodiil pvp. People grabbing scrolls and delivering them to their main factions. Now that's something that should honestly be a bannable offense.

And that would be why many PVPers would like a return to faction-locked campaigns.

Quantum_Knight · September 2018

I suggest the "Jazz Hands" (/showtime) emote. Works every time...unless it doesn't and then those people are just dead inside.

Reistr_the_Unbroken · September 2018

AD group is a pos tbh- died IN THE CENTER and have to wait to free heal. And there was 49 of them wtf.

Reistr_the_Unbroken · September 2018

Quantum_Knight wrote: »

I suggest the "Jazz Hands" (/showtime) emote. Works every time...unless it doesn't and then those people are just dead inside.

A huge group of AD people killed me before I could do anything .-. Was going to do the surrender emote but apparently it’s kill anyone before half of them can be friendly

Sylvermynx · September 2018

Considering your frustration level after a few hours of this.... you might do better to just run writs on 8 toons to save up the gold for the skin. A week and a half ago I had < 100k in the bank since late June. Today, with 9 girls instead of 1 doing basic writs, I have 425k (appx.... I'm not in game, might be off a few k either way).

Of course I don't spend it on anything just right now - each girl manages her own repairs etc - I'm just saving it up. Too bad the bank doesn't pay interest....

I'm also not saving it for anything in particular. However, when something shows up somewhere that I want, likely I'll be able to pay for it without breaking a sweat.

Oh, and the previous advice was spot on: don't try to do this during an event. That right there is what is causing you to gnash teeth. Wait until the event is over. Save a life - probably your own....

JumpmanLane · September 2018

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

Honestly I’m so done with Cyrodiil. I just want to do the damn quest but no, stupid PvP people have to ruin it. No wonder why people are afraid of coming here or hate it. If I ever finish the damn quest I’m never coming back.

Why do PvP players have to be stupid? The one or two times someone from another faction “seemed” to be doing a quest, I left my weapons sheathed and they attacked me.

I kill on sight. If two people seem to be 1v1ing I Kill and apologize.

It’s a PvP area. Fight or go home.

Seri · September 2018

JumpmanLane wrote: »

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

Honestly I’m so done with Cyrodiil. I just want to do the damn quest but no, stupid PvP people have to ruin it. No wonder why people are afraid of coming here or hate it. If I ever finish the damn quest I’m never coming back.

Why do PvP players have to be stupid? The one or two times someone from another faction “seemed” to be doing a quest, I left my weapons sheathed and they attacked me.

As a PvP player, I've also had this happen multiple times. Eg, was in a delve once and intentionally ignored the opposite faction player who I assumed was questing, while I waited for a boss to spawn. They then jumped me as I went to leave.

TequilaFire · September 2018

Join a PvP guild and group up.
You wouldn't solo a trial! PvE players. smh

LittlePinkDot · September 2018

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

I could try to find a group, but I just want to beat the quest and never come back. I seriously want the Soul-Shriven skin but I can’t bc I’m too early in the quest.

I can get anywhere on the map with stealth.

I wish I could get the Undaunted passives and monster helmets without doing what I dont like...vet dungeons.

ArchMikem · September 2018

Solariken wrote: »

I'm going to teach you three magic letters that when written together in zone chat will change your life: "LFG"

Any group that takes you isnt going to babysit as you do the town dailies.

Mr_Walker · September 2018

ezio45 wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Its a PVP zone, with no way to reliably signal that you have peaceable intentions nor any incentive for PVPers to honor that.

I suggest you prepare for PVP, either by researching a PVP build, getting a group to help you, or getting stealth gear/potions to avoid combat.

I too used to hate Cyrodiil, though in my case it was getting those Cyrodiil fish for Master Angler. But I kept coming back, for skyshards, for delve bosses, and eventually I stayed and discovered that I really enjoy PVP in Cyrodiil.

yes there is, flash block a few times. if you do that and they kill you there just a jerk

Sadly, in my experience, any online pvp game tends to be jerk chum.

Lokirules · September 2018

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

Ok but seriously can there be a punishment for people ganking or camping? Like jeez I just want to get to the middle of the sewer, and I doubt anyone will group with me.

It’s a pvp zone with elements of Pve. You have to accept that. Like others have said the easiest way to get the skin is to farm gold. I will say if you get with a group you will be slightly safer than solo. Just be careful and be aware of your Environment have mage light at the ready. Death in Ic and Cryo is an inconvenience and that’s it.

geonsocal · September 2018

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

And to all the people saying “nOh KeeP PVP get gud!!11!!" Not everyone is as good as you, and not everyone likes PvP. It’s called opinion for a reason. And I’m still new to this game so back off.

ha - that's exactly how I feel doing pledge dungeons and going against some final boss for the first time...

high anxiety...enjoy the rush...

the IC quests are some of my favorite in the game...

Beardimus · September 2018

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

Ok but seriously can there be a punishment for people ganking or camping? Like jeez I just want to get to the middle of the sewer, and I doubt anyone will group with me.

Sorry. Unsure if you are being sarcastic or trolling or what.

you asking for PvP players not to PvP in a PvP zone right.....and you don't want people to gank in the one area of the game intended for ganking that rewards ganking.

Seriously the levels of entitlement in this game astound me.

If ur a PvEer just save up and buy it if you are that mad keen for it, you can make that kinda money in a few weeks.

Armatesz · September 2018

To be fairly honest I have had times where I couldn't tell if someone was just wanting to only quest in pvp zones or what. If I knew ahead honestly I would just leave them alone as long as they don't engage first knowing that part.

Drakkdjinn · September 2018

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

And to all the people saying “nOh KeeP PVP get gud!!11!!" Not everyone is as good as you, and not everyone likes PvP. It’s called opinion for a reason. And I’m still new to this game so back off.

Why not back off of the PvP zone yourself? It’s called a PvP zone for a reason: that’s where pee vee pee happens dingus.

Reistr_the_Unbroken · September 2018

Drakkdjinn wrote: »

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

And to all the people saying “nOh KeeP PVP get gud!!11!!" Not everyone is as good as you, and not everyone likes PvP. It’s called opinion for a reason. And I’m still new to this game so back off.

Why not back off of the PvP zone yourself? It’s called a PvP zone for a reason: that’s where pee vee pee happens dingus.

Not to be rude but this is a great example of how to be a jerk and chase newcomers away from this site and all PvP instead of saying something actually useful and nice! congrats!

edges_endgame · September 2018

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

There’s a million people fighting molag and I pray that I get something soon

You won't.

7/10 troll thread. Try harder

Rowjoh · September 2018

There's nothing cool about facerolling someone who is clearly and obviously questing in Cyrodiil especially during events.

There are actually a good number of players that respect this but unfortunately there are always going to be ones who get a kick out of beating defenceless people.

Most good pvp'ers don't do this even in pvp proper.

Knootewoot · September 2018

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

And to all the people saying “nOh KeeP PVP get gud!!11!!" Not everyone is as good as you, and not everyone likes PvP. It’s called opinion for a reason. And I’m still new to this game so back off.

If you don't like PvP, don't go there. It is as simple as that.

I don't like trials... hence i don't do them. I also don't like writs, hence i don't do them.

DanteYoda · September 2018

I'm pve, i'm not afraid.. I'm just past dealing with morons and aholes.. to be blunt..

edges_endgame · September 2018

DanteYoda wrote: »

I'm pve, i'm not afraid.. I'm just past dealing with morons and aholes.. to be blunt..

Then you should just stop leaving the house. And don't step foot into PvE either.

Biro123 · September 2018

Knootewoot wrote: »

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

And to all the people saying “nOh KeeP PVP get gud!!11!!" Not everyone is as good as you, and not everyone likes PvP. It’s called opinion for a reason. And I’m still new to this game so back off.

If you don't like PvP, don't go there. It is as simple as that.

I don't like trials... hence i don't do them. I also don't like writs, hence i don't do them.

Same here.

I only ever do what I consider fun. It may mean missing out on some shinies, but you really have to ask yourself - Are those shinies really worth spending your free-time not having fun?

If you decide they are - then its your choice. You decide to not have fun - so pointless to complain to others about it.

MajBludd · September 2018

Pver's attacked me in ic, even after I put up block and helped this person with killing some npcs that almost killed him.

I tried to move from the place we were at but he continued to attack me. What a jerk!

I brought him to 20ish % health then tried to leave again. He comes back at me again, so I had to kill him. Rude Pver's

LiberatorSam · September 2018

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

Honestly I’m so done with Cyrodiil. I just want to do the damn quest but no, stupid PvP people have to ruin it. No wonder why people are afraid of coming here or hate it. If I ever finish the damn quest I’m never coming back.

Even if you get to the center and killed bal, you probably will still just get a pile unlootable ash, if there are really a million players there.

Rowjoh · September 2018

Biro123 wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

And to all the people saying “nOh KeeP PVP get gud!!11!!" Not everyone is as good as you, and not everyone likes PvP. It’s called opinion for a reason. And I’m still new to this game so back off.

If you don't like PvP, don't go there. It is as simple as that.

I don't like trials... hence i don't do them. I also don't like writs, hence i don't do them.

Same here.

I only ever do what I consider fun. It may mean missing out on some shinies, but you really have to ask yourself - Are those shinies really worth spending your free-time not having fun?

If you decide they are - then its your choice. You decide to not have fun - so pointless to complain to others about it.

Its not quite that black and white.

Players often need an Alliance skill, gear or mats for their build and as such have to go to Cyrodiil to obtain.

Same as PVP players sometimes have to do PVE content to get their gear. But then you don't get ganked or facerolled or have your valuable mats taken from you in PVE

Reistr_the_Unbroken · September 2018

MajBludd wrote: »

Pver's attacked me in ic, even after I put up block and helped this person with killing some npcs that almost killed him.

I tried to move from the place we were at but he continued to attack me. What a jerk!

I brought him to 20ish % health then tried to leave again. He comes back at me again, so I had to kill him. Rude Pver's

I normally avoid pvpr’s- hell i even walked away as a group of three continued to attack me. Didn’t attack any of them and they still attacked till I died. Couldn’t even do an emote either.