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I Went in Blind: New DLC!
kylewwefan
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With the release of new DLC dungeons, I never use a Guide and prefer to go in blind. Choosing to experience new content in this manner usually doesn’t go over well for me, As you probably guessed, it did not go well. But tried and tried with no success. Sad face emoji. We still had a blast trying to figure this stuff out on our own. Looking forward to round 2 tonight!
How did all my other console brethren faire? We’re you victorious? Did you conquer? Are you wearing the mask of slain dungeon boss with pride?
One day I will join you, but not today.
How did all my other console brethren faire? We’re you victorious? Did you conquer? Are you wearing the mask of slain dungeon boss with pride?
One day I will join you, but not today.
I Went in Blind: New DLC! 115 votes
Conquer New Dungeons With No Guide
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Don’t be a Fool. Use the Guide!
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Guppet✭✭✭✭✭
✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuideI’ll tell you in a few days.
You go in a pug or with friends/Guildies?1 -
Kanar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuideI always go in blind, but my friends watch videos and read guides so they tell me about mechanics. I would prefer if we figured them out ourselves though. First day I was back from a 4 month break I successfully pugged vet March of Sacrifices. Of course some of the others knew the mechanics.3 -
Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I got one of them done on normal.
Pug groups are so terrible though for the most part.
After one wipe on a new dungeon, people immediately started flopping out their Molag Bals and pointing fingers.4 -
LordGavus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuideI'm on PC but when the dungeons dropped 2 friends and I 3 manned them blind. Just on normal but it was good fun figuring everything out.2 -
kylewwefan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuideI went with social/Trial guild. Did the first one on normal....was kind of a faceroll with these guys, so tried the other one on Vet. The mechanics we figured out were fun. But then we Hit a wall. Got stuck. It got late. Have to try again some other time.0 -
madchuska83✭✭✭✭✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuideI PUG'd one of them before bed last night. I'll probably do the other one tonight.1 -
generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭Conquer New Dungeons With No Guidekylewwefan wrote: »With the release of new DLC dungeons, I never use a Guide and prefer to go in blind. Choosing to experience new content in this manner usually doesn’t go over well for me, As you probably guessed, it did not go well. But tried and tried with no success. Sad face emoji. We still had a blast trying to figure this stuff out on our own. Looking forward to round 2 tonight!
How did all my other console brethren faire? We’re you victorious? Did you conquer? Are you wearing the mask of slain dungeon boss with pride?
One day I will join you, but not today.
did the same, didn't even run normal, just pugged on and got to the indrik and failed for about an hour before bed.
it was actually fun!"The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
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sudaki_eso✭✭✭✭✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuideWhere is the fun in using a guide right from the beginning? We did one last night on normal and it was good fun. Guildies tried the vet mode and succeded without a guide, i wouldnt advice a vet run with pugs and no clue but on normal its not a big deal. Will do the other one tonight - without any guide.PS4 EU - StamDK1 -
Silver_Strider✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuideI cleared them on normal completely blind and while I'm still trying to figure out all the mechanics for the Spriggan in MoS and the courtyard WW in MHK, the rest of the bosses didn't seem that difficult mechanic wise.
Wish I could have done all the Trials of the Golden Indriks though but people just ran thru the dungeon without exploring so I only found 2 of the 3 hunting grounds for them before clearing.
Edit: Cleared vMHK yesterday with a friend of mine tanking and a random DPS/Heals. Wasn't a smooth run but we cleared it and I got a full set of Moonhunter Jewelry to boot.Edited by Silver_Strider on August 30, 2018 10:09AMArgonian forever1 -
essi2✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuideI pugged Normal Moon Hunter Keep the first time, went fairly well.
Not doing alot of Vet dungeons atm."The Heritance are racists yes? Idiots. But dangerous, destabilizing racist idiots." - Razum-dar
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LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuideSo not using a guide is considered foolish these days?
Dont worry, the mechanics of new dungeons arent very difficult to figure out, and its much more fun this way (bonus points if youre doing it with a group of friends).Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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Guppet✭✭✭✭✭
✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuideDone the first one without a guide. Not bad at all. Had to kick 2 dps in a row for not having any soul gems at all. Was easy on my tank.
I did try it once first on my healer and that was less enjoyable (didn’t make it past first boss). I now know it’s because the tank was freaking terrible.
Indrik was actually quite fun. Best DLC dungeon yet.Edited by Guppet on August 29, 2018 11:48PM1 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuideI love going into dungeons blind and figuring things out on our own for the very first time.
It's why I go into the DLC dungeons on the first day of PTS--there are no guides to consult even if I wanted one!
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Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
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GawdSB✭✭✭✭✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuideGotta do it blind the first few times. Otherwise it'd be a bit boring. Everybody not knowing what to do and figuring it out is pretty fun.1
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Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuideThere's a guide? Also we already beat it on vet (on PS4). It was a lot of fun, love the mechanics and the atmosphere!1 -
FloppyTouch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuidePug them today 1st time on my dk tank took awhile but we figured it out. I like to stay away from the forum guides and youtube ones. PC player tend to forget that some console players like to figure things out and not deal with spoilers.1 -
Finviuswe✭✭✭✭It's not recommended.
I mean, It's not recommended to go into a vet dlc dung blind. It is worth it to go into a normal dlc dung blind, the mechanics wouldn't prevent u from being able to beat it.
Going into a vet dlc dung blind is just a fool's errand1 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuideIt's not recommended.
I mean, It's not recommended to go into a vet dlc dung blind. It is worth it to go into a normal dlc dung blind, the mechanics wouldn't prevent u from being able to beat it.
Going into a vet dlc dung blind is just a fool's errand
Nah, it's fun! I went into every one of the DLC dungeons blind, on vet, during the first week of PTS. For MoS and MHK, I literally have not set foot in them on normal, ever.
There is such a big discrepancy between vet and normal (and even vet and vet HM) that if you really want to learn the mechanics, you must do it on the hardest difficulty. Otherwise, when you do move on to vet, there's a lot of new things that you have to learn or even old things that you have to unlearn. You might develop a strategy for a fight on normal and find that it's completely unworkable for vet and that you need to rethink the fight.
So I always start on vet. Learn it the right way the first time.Edited by code65536 on August 30, 2018 2:03AMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorPC/Console Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Group Buff PanelsOther Add-Ons: Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information1 -
Finviuswe✭✭✭✭It's not recommended.
I mean, It's not recommended to go into a vet dlc dung blind. It is worth it to go into a normal dlc dung blind, the mechanics wouldn't prevent u from being able to beat it.
Going into a vet dlc dung blind is just a fool's errand
Nah, it's fun! I went into every one of the DLC dungeons blind, on vet, during the first week of PTS. For MoS and MHK, I literally have not set foot in them on normal, ever.
There is such a big discrepancy between vet and normal (and even vet and vet HM) that if you really want to learn the mechanics, you must do it on the hardest difficulty. Otherwise, when you do move on to vet, there's a lot of new things that you have to learn or even old things that you have to unlearn. You might develop a strategy for a fight on normal and find that it's completely unworkable for vet and that you need to rethink the fight.
So I always start on vet. Learn it the right way the first time.
Well you're probably a lot better than me at PvE or you were with a group of other competent players/players who were willing to stick with it and stick with the difficult mechanics.
I parse 40k dps on my main, which I understand is not very good in the current meta, and I also run a tank, which I'm even worse at. It clears vet dungeons, but I'm sure my tanking can be improved in certain aspects.
I wouldn't recommend for new players to start up with vet dlc dungeons. They may feel the content is too difficult and/or fail to clear said content and get discouraged.
You are right that it is pivotal for learning the mechanics of vet dungeons to go in, get your feet wet, and learn through experience. That is absolutely true.
But when a new dungeon comes out, I'll usually take my first run on normal, feel things out, learn the progression of the dungeon, and then return on vet when I'm ready for the big leagues.
Blind vet dungeon runs can work, and even be a ton of fun, if everyone in the group is good and proficient at their roles. Then, sure, I'd recommend it wholeheartedly!1 -
Radiance✭✭✭✭✭
✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuideI always run it blind a few times on normal before I go Vet. There is usually someone else who has a vague idea of what needs to be done and I like to get them down so I don't hinder a group that already knows what they're doing in vet. Then I pass on what knowledge I have...1 -
Tannus15✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Conquer New Dungeons With No Guidewe went straight for vet HM on both new dungeons knowing nothing about them.
failed the HM (time constraints), but it was fun.1 -
brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Conquer New Dungeons With No Guide1/2 dungeons no guide.
Second dungeon (Moon?) needed some assistance...1 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuideI parse 40k dps on my main, which I understand is not very good in the current meta
LOL, what? 40K is "not very good"?! Sure, it's not good by the standards of competitive players, but what makes you think you think you need to be a competitive-level player in order to go into a dungeon blind?
I'm not a competitive player. My DPS is definitely not competitive, which is why I mostly tank trials these days. But for these dungeons, I go as a DD, because that's my main (and because you don't need two tanks like you do in a trial). And the people who I do dungeons with don't consider themselves competitive either, but we still managed to cleared the vet (non-HM) of both dungeons on the very first night of PTS and then got the HMs down later.
A lot of it is just trial and error and patience. Paying attention to what's going on, examining what's killing people, and coming up with a plan to deal with it. And, really, that process is the most fun part of new group PvE content.Edited by code65536 on August 30, 2018 3:43AMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorPC/Console Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Group Buff PanelsOther Add-Ons: Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information1 -
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✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuideMe and a few guildies just went in...I think we did Moon Hunter first...lots of dying...getting lost in the maze...but we completed it...then we pretty much face rolled March...a bit harder with a PUG healer second time around...but had to get the werewolf memento...didn't even know about it until someone posted on guild chat...
All in all pretty enjoyable dungeons...some new mechanics...gotta try hardmode tonight...1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »I got one of them done on normal.
Pug groups are so terrible though for the most part.
After one wipe on a new dungeon, people immediately started flopping out their Molag Bals and pointing fingers.
Obviously people are expected to know how the Dungeon works, even when it's brand new. So if you wipe in it you're a scrub.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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XxCaLxX✭✭✭✭✭Never look at guides myself. Prefer to learn the mechs on my on and really surprised how easy these two are compared to dragon bones dungeons. With two previous dungeon dlc I was in each at least a few hours figuring everything out but these was just wipe once then know what to do. Especially final bosses. Aren’t the final bosses suppose to be the most challenging? Don’t get me wrong though I love the new dungeons.1
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✭✭✭✭✭Don’t be a Fool. Use the Guide!I never go in any dungeon without a guide. That's just asking for trouble."If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."1 -
Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Conquer New Dungeons With No GuideI never ever follow a guide.
There is precious little content that's hard in this game, blitz a dungeon first time means its done. Over. I'm.happy to fail. Few times, learn with mates, work it out.
I don't get people rushing to box tick all the stuff off then moaning there is no end game.Xbox One | EU | EP
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