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Suggestion: Race Illusion 'Polymorph'

Unknown_Redemption
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Suggested Item:
Race Illusion: Breton
Race Illusion: High Elf
Race Illusion: Argonian
... etc...

Item Function:
Places the selected Race over your character's current custom appearance settings. This means that what attributes you selected on a Khajiit would transfer over to the selected appearance. This can be seen in the Character Race Change screen when toggling to different races/genders.

Example:
Illusion.jpg

Added Benefits:
This illusion successfully suppresses vampire visuals.

Cost:
2,500 Crowns

Limit:
1 per Race
Account Wide
Note: This is would work the same way Polymorphs are currently selected
Edited by Unknown_Redemption on August 16, 2018 11:35AM
ESO - PC NA
  • Aliyavana
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    It works lore wise due to illusion magic but I would like it if zos added a scroll over option to name plates that shows you race information if they do add this to show your actual race
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  • Unknown_Redemption
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    It works lore wise due to illusion magic but I would like it if zos added a scroll over option to name plates that shows you race information if they do add this to show your actual race

    I know this would be handy for group forming. But would this be default or a selected option? I ask because I personally wouldn't want to see it and I know others would prefer to RP in it.



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  • Unknown_Redemption
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    SydneyGrey wrote: »
    It sounds like it would be a polymorph, and therefore, they'd all be identical. It's annoying enough seeing a billion identical bankers running around.

    If there was a way to do it so that they wouldn't all be clones, then I'd be very happy about it.

    No, its not a true polymorph, it takes your appearance attributes and transfers it through the illusion (e.g. forehead slop, eye slant, lip fullness, etc)
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  • ZOS_MikaS
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  • Unknown_Redemption
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    Added a screen shot to better show how the player appearances transfers through to the illusions.
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    I really like this suggestion.
  • Mureel
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    So, would it wear my current clothes?

    If so, I would buy a High Elf one and hide vamp with it xD
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  • Nayawin14
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    Added Benefits:
    This illusion successfully suppresses vampire visuals.

    Cost:
    2,500 Crowns

    I would have buy an item that suppress the visuals of vampire for 2,500 crown FOR-ITSELF 1.5 year ago without hesitation., believe me (at the end, I simply cured Eiza Lluvia from vampirism, start enjoying the game again and crown her empress the same campaign ahah)

    So yeah, the idea of a race-illusion-item is really a nice thing. Plus, it cost more than that to actually change the race of your character and re-look it, so, this would even be economical (you'll start with the race that has the desired passives then use the stone to make it looks like the desired race). Only one little thing here, if the change is automatic and not a relooking then you can end up with relatively strange outcomes, especially when you made your OP argonian into a delicate young imperial tank :|
  • Aesthier
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    The only concern I have with this is that when using the exact same settings across all races it's pretty rare to have more than one race those same settings look decent on.

    I am not saying that it isn't possible to have settings that make characters look good across most races just that it is the exception and not the rule.

    Don't believe me?

    Try it.


    I'll support it as some people would enjoy it but for me, I would need the ability to rehash the settings for each race before I would want it.
    Edited by Aesthier on August 17, 2018 6:40AM
  • jaschacasadiob16_ESO
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    What is the point of the illusion anyway, since you can freely move in any city, independently of the Alliance you belong to.
    Edited by jaschacasadiob16_ESO on August 17, 2018 6:55AM
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  • Nayawin14
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    Aesthier wrote: »
    The only concern I have with this is that when using the exact same settings across all races it's pretty rare to have more than one race those same settings look decent on.

    I'll support it as some people would enjoy it but for me, I would need the ability to rehash the settings for each race before I would want it.

    Sure. The trick would be to buy those illusion-polymorph as tokens BEFORE you actually create your new character. You'd have an option to 'create-new-char + use illusion-polymorph', create your character from the race with the desired passive while directly customising according to the visually-desired race.

  • Nayawin14
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    Nayawin14 wrote: »
    Sure. The trick would be to buy those illusion-polymorph as tokens BEFORE you actually create your new character. You'd have an option to 'create-new-char + use illusion-polymorph', create your character from the race with the desired passive while directly customising according to the visually-desired race.

    Alternatively, if this illusion-polymorph is considered a collection item that modify the appearance (i.e., that you can activate/deactivate), then when you consume it for the first time on an existing character you'd recreate a 2nd character design.

    I don't like this option too much as it would be strange to have 2 characters in 1. The goal of this illusion-polymorph being mostly in my opinion to get rid of the races' passives limitation.
  • Aesthier
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    Nayawin14 wrote: »
    Aesthier wrote: »
    The only concern I have with this is that when using the exact same settings across all races it's pretty rare to have more than one race those same settings look decent on.

    I'll support it as some people would enjoy it but for me, I would need the ability to rehash the settings for each race before I would want it.

    Sure. The trick would be to buy those illusion-polymorph as tokens BEFORE you actually create your new character. You'd have an option to 'create-new-char + use illusion-polymorph', create your character from the race with the desired passive while directly customising according to the visually-desired race.

    ^ Love this!
  • rafaelcsmaia
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    Khajiit will finally be able to play magicka dd without being bullied, yes?
  • Nayawin14
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    Khajiit will finally be able to play magicka dd without being bullied, yes?

    Yep! in theory...

    In practice Nirn will be instantly flood by cute imperial girls <3

  • rafaelcsmaia
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    Nayawin14 wrote: »
    Khajiit will finally be able to play magicka dd without being bullied, yes?

    Yep! in theory...

    In practice Nirn will be instantly flood by cute imperial girls <3

    And suddenly nirn is flooded with busty female characters in a nord bathing towel lmao
  • Unknown_Redemption
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    Mureel wrote: »
    So, would it wear my current clothes?

    If so, I would buy a High Elf one and hide vamp with it xD

    Great question, yes it would, it simply changes your characters 'poly-skeleton' ... so to speak.
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  • Unknown_Redemption
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    Nayawin14 wrote: »
    Added Benefits:
    This illusion successfully suppresses vampire visuals.

    Cost:
    2,500 Crowns

    I would have buy an item that suppress the visuals of vampire for 2,500 crown FOR-ITSELF 1.5 year ago without hesitation., believe me (at the end, I simply cured Eiza Lluvia from vampirism, start enjoying the game again and crown her empress the same campaign ahah)

    So yeah, the idea of a race-illusion-item is really a nice thing. Plus, it cost more than that to actually change the race of your character and re-look it, so, this would even be economical (you'll start with the race that has the desired passives then use the stone to make it looks like the desired race). Only one little thing here, if the change is automatic and not a relooking then you can end up with relatively strange outcomes, especially when you made your OP argonian into a delicate young imperial tank :|

    Correct, the illusion copies the characters visual attributes, and it can create a significant difference between races (e.g. High Elf and Breton). You could, however, change your appearance for 1000 crowns to better extend to your favorite illusion.
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  • Unknown_Redemption
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    DoobZ69 wrote: »
    Or just not have rubbish broken racial passives system. Good try though.

    It gives a work around, adds diversity, player customization, and would be easy to implement.
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  • WeerW3ir
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    You must been played too much Divinity: Original Sin 2, but. i like your idea.
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  • Unknown_Redemption
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    WeerW3ir wrote: »
    You must been played too much Divinity: Original Sin 2, but. i like your idea.

    The thought came to me when I recalled the 'Enchanter: Illusion' spell from EQ1. Ive never played Divinity =)
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  • O-Los_Zulis
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    I'll pay crowns for a race polymorph.
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  • Sandman929
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    SydneyGrey wrote: »
    It sounds like it would be a polymorph, and therefore, they'd all be identical. It's annoying enough seeing a billion identical bankers running around.

    If there was a way to do it so that they wouldn't all be clones, then I'd be very happy about it.

    No, its not a true polymorph, it takes your appearance attributes and transfers it through the illusion (e.g. forehead slop, eye slant, lip fullness, etc)

    Very cool idea if it did this.
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  • Salvas_Aren
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    The outcome would look strange, i guess. Not all slides look good on all races.

    On top of that the marks and accessories differ. Nice try to show us a dummy without them.
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  • TheShadowScout
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    The outcome would look strange, i guess. Not all slides look good on all races.

    On top of that the marks and accessories differ. Nice try to show us a dummy without them.
    That would be my doubts about this idea...

    ...though the general concept would be fun! Even if only done with "stock appearance" like breton mage, regguard warrior, orc barbarian, bosmer hunter, khajiit rogue, altmer wizard, nord raider, argonian assassin, dunmer warlock, imperial legionaire...

    Personally I would go a step further... and make is a disguise usable in PvP regions - including fake alliance indicator, and as usual with disguises, lost as soon as combat happens. ;) Bring on the infiltrators!
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    Alakserden Haughty Dunmer Pyromancer
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    Karel Danes Drunk Nord Mountain Man
    Elsa Dekran Imperial Deserter Piratess
    Akar-Sendel Brutal Orsimer Executioner
    Skelandera Evil Altmer Necromantrix

    Andrea Selk Melancholic Breton Vampire Waif
    Al'Serkande Fat Redguard Ex-guard Bandit
    Dane Sarkel Fabulous Breton Hedge Knight
    Ales Endark Dour Imperial Grave Guardian

    Deslankera Busty Altmer Priestess
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    Kera de'Saln Skittish Khajiit Clockwork Kitty
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  • Unknown_Redemption
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    The outcome would look strange, i guess. Not all slides look good on all races.

    On top of that the marks and accessories differ. Nice try to show us a dummy without them.
    That would be my doubts about this idea...

    ...though the general concept would be fun! Even if only done with "stock appearance" like breton mage, regguard warrior, orc barbarian, bosmer hunter, khajiit rogue, altmer wizard, nord raider, argonian assassin, dunmer warlock, imperial legionaire...

    Personally I would go a step further... and make is a disguise usable in PvP regions - including fake alliance indicator, and as usual with disguises, lost as soon as combat happens. ;) Bring on the infiltrators!

    Purely visual, like a polymorph, in the effect that it can be used in PvP; but the spy thing would cause an imbalance.
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  • TheShadowScout
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    ...but the spy thing would cause an imbalance.
    I suppose that would depend. But it would be interesting nonetheless... and could easily be balanced by how much it would cost to acquire.
    Remember, I am talking about a disguise here, meaning a semi-consumable item... and while it would allow for example a DC character to "disguise" themselves as AD combatant, it would not -actually- change their status, just put up a "fake" fellow ADish alliance indicator, so while they could fool players from afar, they could not use AD doors, could not use AD chat, could not join AD groups, and would still outlined in red for any AD player who gets suspiscious and does a mouseover or such... and while it would fool AD guards, as soon as any player lands a hit the disguise breaks and vanishes from their inventory...
    As an added drawback, I would have it allow "friendly fire", meaning the discuised DC character from the example would be attackable by DC players as well who get fooled by the disguise, for a single blow (whoch breaks the disguise and shows them they have been attacking an disguised ally)

    Just an idea to have more options, deraling now just with soldiers in warzones, but also with something like IC spies (as opposed to the OoC spies who report one sides movements through guild chat, the rotten skeevers! :p ;) )
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    Leskandera - Sneaky Dunmer Bounty Huntress
    Kelasendar - Shy Dunmer Goth Librarian
    Kes dre-Lana - Righteous Orsimer Amazon
    Alakserden Haughty Dunmer Pyromancer
    Leers-Kanda Chivalric Argonian Dragon-Fangirl
    Karel Danes Drunk Nord Mountain Man
    Elsa Dekran Imperial Deserter Piratess
    Akar-Sendel Brutal Orsimer Executioner
    Skelandera Evil Altmer Necromantrix

    Andrea Selk Melancholic Breton Vampire Waif
    Al'Serkande Fat Redguard Ex-guard Bandit
    Dane Sarkel Fabulous Breton Hedge Knight
    Ales Endark Dour Imperial Grave Guardian

    Deslankera Busty Altmer Priestess
    Selkendara Happy Bosmer Tree-hugger Girl
    Kera de'Saln Skittish Khajiit Clockwork Kitty
    Selan Dekar Stern Imperial Blood Mage Exile
    Kral Na-Dees Pale Argonian Tomb Raider
  • Unknown_Redemption
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    I understand you're just brainstorming too, but for this particular suggestion, this is to not have any effect on PvP.

    That being said, I would love if ESO launched a game mode of sneaky delights. Something maybe 3-4 times larger than a BG, with more players, and more objectives. In which, infiltrating could be introduced. But, I will leave that to you to post =)
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