Hey Developers, any chance we can get reskins/recolors of the defunct Loyalty Program Pets?

Katahdin · August 2018

Carbonised wrote: »

Marginis wrote: »

Carbonised wrote: »

Marginis wrote: »

Carbonised wrote: »

Marginis wrote: »

If you want the same stuff, sorry, but I do not think you should have it.

Lucky you're not in charge, eh.

Actually we shouldn't get the same stuff as the old loyalty rewards, we should get something better.

Like better and more modern reskins of the old rewards, and with cool new animations.

You can keep the old trash, see how 'special' you feel then.

If ZOS treated their loyal members like you would, they would be in trouble. That is to say they wouldn't have any loyal players. You treat your players like trash and you don't get to keep those players, eh?

At least I don't wake up at night, bathed in my own cold sweat from having the horrible nightmare that someone else might get the same toys at me, some time.

If we were talking about giving away, for example, the craft bag for free, I wouldn't see a problem with that. Non-ESO+ subscribers get the craft bag, and ESO+ subscribers can stop subbing and save $15 a month. But what you're saying is that you want the same things as players who had to do something special for them, without having to put in the effort.

You could have supported the game from the very beginning. You could have played when there were all the bugged and broken quests. You could have played before there was player housing, before you could steal stuff, before there were a million motifs, before the outfit system - or hell, the dye system even - existed. You could have gotten the game on PC on only the faith that it would come out on console and be alright. You could have stayed subbed from the start, even though you hardly had time to play, and you barely had the money to cover it.

But you didn't. I did. So no, you shouldn't get the same stuff as me for doing none of the work.

Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.

No, you weren't here when it was earned.
YOU get over it.

Dacalana · August 2018

I really want the wraith from the moment I started playing teso, and I'd be ok with reskinned version (not red one, though, but with some additional blue or gold colour somewhere). Though I don't think we will get them soon, we get so many new living beings with every patch, and so many "common" animals that are being reskinned every 2 months, so it's really unlikely.

Aliyavana · August 2018

Katahdin wrote: »

Carbonised wrote: »

Marginis wrote: »

Carbonised wrote: »

Marginis wrote: »

Carbonised wrote: »

Marginis wrote: »

If you want the same stuff, sorry, but I do not think you should have it.

Lucky you're not in charge, eh.

Actually we shouldn't get the same stuff as the old loyalty rewards, we should get something better.

Like better and more modern reskins of the old rewards, and with cool new animations.

You can keep the old trash, see how 'special' you feel then.

If ZOS treated their loyal members like you would, they would be in trouble. That is to say they wouldn't have any loyal players. You treat your players like trash and you don't get to keep those players, eh?

At least I don't wake up at night, bathed in my own cold sweat from having the horrible nightmare that someone else might get the same toys at me, some time.

If we were talking about giving away, for example, the craft bag for free, I wouldn't see a problem with that. Non-ESO+ subscribers get the craft bag, and ESO+ subscribers can stop subbing and save $15 a month. But what you're saying is that you want the same things as players who had to do something special for them, without having to put in the effort.

You could have supported the game from the very beginning. You could have played when there were all the bugged and broken quests. You could have played before there was player housing, before you could steal stuff, before there were a million motifs, before the outfit system - or hell, the dye system even - existed. You could have gotten the game on PC on only the faith that it would come out on console and be alright. You could have stayed subbed from the start, even though you hardly had time to play, and you barely had the money to cover it.

But you didn't. I did. So no, you shouldn't get the same stuff as me for doing none of the work.

Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.

No, you weren't here when it was earned.
YOU get over it.

so are you for reskins?

Marginis · August 2018

B0SSzombie wrote: »

Marginis wrote: »

B0SSzombie wrote: »

Marginis wrote: »

B0SSzombie wrote: »

The idea that "The new thing shouldn't look nicer than the old one" is sort of a flawed one.

The value for the old item doesn't come from it's appearance, but rather, what it stands for.

That's not specific to ESO, but rather a general thing in our society. Otherwise people wouldn't spend so much time and effort restoring and repairing old things, like Cars from 60 years ago. An old '50's Chevy doesn't look better than a modern Tesla, but people understand "Wow that is an old thing, whoever it belongs to must really be serious about how much they like cars!" when they see it.

Anyone who saw the original Gold/Brass Dwarven Sphere would think "Oh, that's the pet they got for playing this game back in it's early days!" Whereas a newer version would just elicit the same kind of reaction as someone who bought a limited time Crown Store recolor.

A good comparison would be the Small Dragon Bone Construct pet people obtained via the Dragon Bones Collector's Bundle versus the Unholy Glow Bone Dragon which was a recolor that was available in the Crown Store for a limited time. It's very easy to spot the difference, and I know what entailed in getting either one.

While generally I agree, not all players spot or realize that difference. So when your goal is to show off your achievements, this dilutes them. Yes, it doesn't eliminate the specialness, but it does lessen it.

But in that case, the prestige of an elusive pet matters even less.

If someone isn't familiar with the Dwarven Sphere pet, or exclusive pets in general, every pet is the same to them, and therefore the exclusivity is lost on them completely.

"Oh, they have one of those robot balls following them. Neat."

That level of player won't even be able to tell the difference between the Pet and the Summon from the Engine Guardian Set.

Like I said, it's a matter of nuance.

You can't just write off a point someone makes with "It's a matter of nuance."

It's not.

This whole forum is a matter of nuance. It's all opinions. That's what a forum IS.

You CAN say something like "We can agree to disagree," but what you did is the equivalent of holding your hands over your ears and shouting "LALALALALA."

Sorry, confused this thread with another just like it. When I said "like I said, it's a matter of nuance" I was referring to this, from another forum thread:

I guess it also depends on how different [the reskin] is. Another senche mount? Go for it. Another tiger? Please no.

Generally I don't like any exceptions [to my "no reskins of old loyalty rewards" preference], but I can still make some. It's just a more nuanced and personal decision. If I liked my poop throwing beta monkey for example, I probably would have been way more aggravated that a reskin was released.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/429910/unofficial-loyalty-rewards-wishlist#latest for more context if you need it.