World bosses

AoDD33pfri3d · August 2018

The world bosses needs to change so anyone can solo them, it's very frustrating when no one wants to help zone or guild. Which means no completion or daily done.

MaleAmazon · August 2018

You can solo them.

Ragebull · August 2018

MaleAmazon wrote: »

You can solo them.

Some

Sheezabeast · August 2018

My best advice is to engage Zone Chat by saying something to the effect of "(boss) is up, X for invite, will share quest" and form a party

This works well in places like Wrothgar.

VaranisArano · August 2018

The base game zone WBs are about equal in difficulty as a base game final boss in a normal dungeon. Most of those are soloable. The WBs in Vvardenfell, Orsinium, and Summerset are specifically designed for groups of players, though I suspect some players can still solo them.

BuddyAces · August 2018

Yep, easy to solo. Wrothgar ones might give folks trouble.

Self heals and dodge roll and/or shields and you're good to go.

jlmurra2 · August 2018

MaleAmazon wrote: »

You can solo them.

Some of them, maybe most. Just try to take on Limenauruus alone. I haven't seen many do that. every time I do that quest everyone waits for help.

Kagukan · August 2018

Lots of world boss runs were being done when summerset first came out and more recently during the wrothgar event. Those are the times when it is easy to complete those dailies.

AoDD33pfri3d · August 2018

Not crows in Clockwork, i'make running necro Jul and tinker with a shield and still is get 1 one kill

MaleAmazon · August 2018

Youre not supposed to take them on alone. But you still can. "I cant do all group content solo" doesnt exactly seem like a good argument.

Jaraal · August 2018

AoDD33pfri3d wrote: »

The world bosses needs to change so anyone can solo them

Anyone CAN solo them. Question is, how bad do you want it?

Mrsinister2 · August 2018

The guar in deshan is set to vet hard mode imo

ProfessorKittyhawk · August 2018

World bosses used to almost all be cakewalks and easily soloable before the One Tamriel update. At least in the vanilla zones. When Prainium came out is when they made world bosses more challenging to solo. And with One Tamriel they beefed up a lot of the vanilla world bosses. Added new mechanics and what not.

ChuckyPayne · August 2018

That would be enough if someone near the boss, on map every1 see: some1 w8ing for boss.
Or other markers wood be good too
- Boss is there
- Boss is attacking

AoDD33pfri3d · August 2018

Still what good is it when no one wants to do it? The wb will just be a dead zone that was long forgotten.

BozzyTheDrummer · August 2018

I do not think they need any adjustments. I think They are fine the way they are. I can solo just a few that I have actually tried. I like that I cannot solo them all, I actually like that some obliterate me. It gives me something to work for and helps me figure out what I am doing right or wrong. I keep tweaking my builds until I can take one out, then I move onto the next. Helps me know that I am actually getting better.

Tandor · August 2018

A simple request - would all those players who post that most or all world bosses are soloable please kindly indicate their number of champion points together with the quality of their gear?

boombazookajd · August 2018

I have solo'd a few. There's one in Stonefalls, that dragon knight chick sandwiched between to delves in the west. I can't solo that for my life. She hits too hard.

max_only · August 2018

I used to solo them before 1 Tamriel. Back when my sap tank was unkillable. He had no dps but he never lost health. There’s a troll boss (high health Regen) in I think Malabal Tor on the beach; we were dancing for like 7 minutes before I de-aggroed him and asked for a group. We couldn’t kill each other lol

What zone specifically are you doing the World Bosses in? As many posters have pointed out some of them are still solo-able.

Gythral · August 2018

Tandor wrote: »

A simple request - would all those players who post that most or all world bosses are soloable please kindly indicate their number of champion points together with the quality of their gear?

Why - you should know the answer -- its whatever the cap currently is
& an earlier poster added a few hints on how to achieve this & it is not spamming light attacks and standing in the red

but the change that is really needed is for the group bosses in the original zones to have rewarding daily (or repeatable at least) quests, as the ones in the DLC already do
not more walkovers for the overland never open chat crowd

Feric51 · August 2018

@AoDD33pfri3d what platform/server? I'm about to get my stam dk to level 50 and want to make him a tank but have absolutely no experience tanking. I am planning on putting a call out for anyone who wants to take on world bosses I will work on my tanking skills while they burn it down.

Probably not the most effective, but I don't want to queue for a dungeon and not know what the heck I'm doing and be a hindrance. If you're on XB-NA I would gladly take you around to the various world bosses with the previously mentioned "tank" or one of my toons that I mostly solo them with. Just let me know.

BozzyTheDrummer · August 2018

Tandor wrote: »

A simple request - would all those players who post that most or all world bosses are soloable please kindly indicate their number of champion points together with the quality of their gear?

As of right now, I am cp433 on Xbox (not that my platform matters) and I am just now able to actually make a dent in world bosses and take a few out. Not saying this level is required to do these, just where I am currently at.

I have a sorcerer pet build. I run (all purple and a few gold) 5/5 necropotence, 5/5 julianos and 2/2 ilambris. Two lightning staves (both julianos, golded out) main has a shock enchant and back has a weapon damage enchant. I am putting out 20K DPS currently.

Septimus_Magna · August 2018

VaranisArano wrote: »

The base game zone WBs are about equal in difficulty as a base game final boss in a normal dungeon. Most of those are soloable. The WBs in Vvardenfell, Orsinium, and Summerset are specifically designed for groups of players, though I suspect some players can still solo them.

Some WBs hit way harder than bosses of normal dungeons. There’s a Gargoyle WB in Rivenspire that hits like a truck. Most WBs in Vvardenfel are easier to solo than this guy.

eso_nya · August 2018

The longest fight so far. (takes 5 to 10 mins longer on my other toons)
Gear used:
Bosmer mag sorc, 5x Mothers Sorrow (all purple), 5x Julianos (3x armor, purple and 2x staff, gold), 2x ilambris (purple), divine on small, infused on big parts. frontbar lightning staff in precise, back bar flamestick, infused with spelldmg enchant, all jewelry enchants spelldmg, armor enchants max magicka. Lover mundus.

... cause [snip] the meta and [snip] grinding ...

Mag sorc is a little bit cheating, cause the white one only goes for the shrimp somehow. "Best one" i got on a different toon tho was stamplar getting it to ~10% before someone else joined in.

firedrgn · August 2018

Tandor wrote: »

A simple request - would all those players who post that most or all world bosses are soloable please kindly indicate their number of champion points together with the quality of their gear?

Purple i am at 750 but was soloing some of them at 500 ish. And i cheese with a pet sorc and shield.

I have seem some one hand and shield guys just go to town on wb .

Feric51 · August 2018

Tandor wrote: »

A simple request - would all those players who post that most or all world bosses are soloable please kindly indicate their number of champion points together with the quality of their gear?

Just because it may be helpful to someone, I'll take the bait.

I'm at cap (CP750) and main an Altmer mag sorc, single pet build. Champion Points are far from optimized as I keep treasure hunter and master gatherer passives unlocked and haven't respec'd in months.

Gear is x5 Julianos, x5 Necropotence, x2 iliambris - All gold except for purple Necro jewelry. 5/1/1 for Undaunted Mettle. Mostly Divines, might be an infused piece here or there.
Necropotence staves - Sharpened lightning backbar (haven't got around to making it infused) with flame enchant, Infused flame staff frontbar with shock enchant both set up to maximize Iliambris procs.

Slotted skills
Twilight Matriarch double barred - for world bosses this is great for "oh poop" moments when you need a burst heal.
Bound Aegis double barred - I'm into simple rotations and this keeps max mag up now that light/heavies scale better
Back bar - Elemental Blockade, Liquid Lightning, Mage's Fury
Front bar - Power Surge, Crushing Shock, Inner Light

Basic rotation is Surge, swap, blockade, LA, liquid lightning, swap, shock, LA, (repeat as necessary.) Keep AoE's up, and heavy attack on back bar as needed for sustain, then once boss get's below 20% I start spamming mage's fury and generally get a couple implosion procs in there as well to burn them down really fast. Front bar could slot hardened ward in place of Inner Light if struggling with survivability.

Usually I just kite the boss in a tight circle keeping it in my AoE's and Iliambris proc, avoid the red when necessary, use crushing shock to interrupt, and the pet for emergency heals if power surge isn't keeping up.

I have just started making the rounds visiting the WB's again to try soloing, but so far so good on all I've tried. Overland only, no DLC zones yet.

Tandor · August 2018

Feric51 wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

A simple request - would all those players who post that most or all world bosses are soloable please kindly indicate their number of champion points together with the quality of their gear?

Just because it may be helpful to someone, I'll take the bait.

No bait. Just a way of pointing out to those leveling up for the first (or even second or so) time that when some players claim that the game is too easy, that world bosses are soloable, that there's no challenge any more, they are talking as veteran players with a good many hundred champion points and pretty decent endgame gear - just in case those players who are leveling up with no champion points and only basic gear and who die in seconds when trying to solo world bosses think that they're failing at something they ought to be able to tackle when they're actually dealing with overland stuff that's meant for grouping at their stage of the game. I'm sure we've all seen a level 4 newbie walk into a world boss area and have his backside handed to him on a plate in seconds, and we've all seen a veteran player with a gazillion champion points successfully kiting the same boss for several minutes. Soloable to one player, not remotely so to the other!

Difficulty levels are supposed to be aimed at an appropriate stage in the game, and someone running an alt with 750+ champion points with a meta build and BiS gear isn't expected to find a challenge in dealing with stuff that requires a group at the intended level when you're first running through the base game zones, and therefore shouldn't dismiss lightly the efforts of those players who struggle with that content, let alone brag about how easy it is to solo and then lobby for it to be made tougher for them. At the very least they ought to be open at the outset about the context in which they find this content so easy.

Likewise, those non-CP players who are struggling with world bosses should recognise that they are intended to represent an early introduction to group content, and shouldn't lobby for them to be soloable. If you can't find someone to help out with a boss mob today, then try again tomorrow.

Inhuman003 · August 2018

We need a Beast/Monster Arena just like Maelstrom Arena & Dragon Star. 1 on 1 Man VS Beast & Monster just 1 on 1 no adds or mobs just like a mini Trials but SOLO. And more like Maelstrom Arena with a normal and veteran mode.

Jaraal · August 2018

Tandor wrote: »

A simple request - would all those players who post that most or all world bosses are soloable please kindly indicate their number of champion points together with the quality of their gear?

First world boss I ever soloed was the Strangler boss in Malabal Tor, I was CP50. IIRC, I was running Thunderbugs and Way of Fire on a 2h heavy Nightblade. That said.... the three mages in the tower in Rivenspire handed me my butt the other day, at CP 560.

idk · August 2018

AoDD33pfri3d wrote: »

The world bosses needs to change so anyone can solo them, it's very frustrating when no one wants to help zone or guild. Which means no completion or daily done.

Absolutely not. Most can be soloed easily, some with a little challenge.

They need to be made more difficult. After all they are not only a boss but a world boss.

Danikat · August 2018

Tandor wrote: »

Feric51 wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

A simple request - would all those players who post that most or all world bosses are soloable please kindly indicate their number of champion points together with the quality of their gear?

Just because it may be helpful to someone, I'll take the bait.

No bait. Just a way of pointing out to those leveling up for the first (or even second or so) time that when some players claim that the game is too easy, that world bosses are soloable, that there's no challenge any more, they are talking as veteran players with a good many hundred champion points and pretty decent endgame gear - just in case those players who are leveling up with no champion points and only basic gear and who die in seconds when trying to solo world bosses think that they're failing at something they ought to be able to tackle when they're actually dealing with overland stuff that's meant for grouping at their stage of the game. I'm sure we've all seen a level 4 newbie walk into a world boss area and have his backside handed to him on a plate in seconds, and we've all seen a veteran player with a gazillion champion points successfully kiting the same boss for several minutes. Soloable to one player, not remotely so to the other!

Difficulty levels are supposed to be aimed at an appropriate stage in the game, and someone running an alt with 750+ champion points with a meta build and BiS gear isn't expected to find a challenge in dealing with stuff that requires a group at the intended level when you're first running through the base game zones, and therefore shouldn't dismiss lightly the efforts of those players who struggle with that content, let alone brag about how easy it is to solo and then lobby for it to be made tougher for them. At the very least they ought to be open at the outset about the context in which they find this content so easy.

Likewise, those non-CP players who are struggling with world bosses should recognise that they are intended to represent an early introduction to group content, and shouldn't lobby for them to be soloable. If you can't find someone to help out with a boss mob today, then try again tomorrow.

That was me a while ago. Hardly a new player but a very slow casual - doing world bosses and public dungeons with my level 30-something character with 0 CP and no set gear (or at least no set bonuses, I had several pieces I'd picked up which were part of a set but nothing matching). If I asked for help I got told "you can solo it" or "lol that one's easy" and started to think I was actually doing something wrong. (And according to some people I was doing it wrong by attempting to play the game while levelling up instead of grinding one safe, easy spot until I hit the CP cap.)

In a weird way it was helpful to find out that it's only easy if you've got hundreds of CP and high level set gear. Firstly because it meant I knew I was not supposed to be able to do it solo and to wait for help instead, and secondly because when I did get to level 50 and started getting CP I remembered that's the source of all those complaints that the game is too easy and boring - so I'm very careful about which points I assign on which characters to avoid running into that problem.