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Change how NB invisibility works please
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The_Protagonist✭✭✭✭✭
✭Being a Nightblade fanatic and the only class I love playing on, I can easily find stealthing NBs, my favorite approach is flanking the enemy and using Radiant Mage light when solo.
When in group I swap to Sentry with detect potions and Radiant Mage Light, the moment I see them I inform my team and light attack making sure that my team sees them
Just understand how the class works, the first few times you die is a learning experience and you get better. If you are dying several times then you really need to L2P and GiT GuD.0 -
Priyasekarssk✭✭✭✭✭In no game, ever, should a player be able to stand right next to another player and do melee damage while remaining invisible. This is *** ridiculous. We shouldn't have to fight invisible players. Stealth is for being stealthy, not for doing melee damage while standing right next to another player and remaining invisible.
If they attack you, that breaks their stealth. Unless they stealth again. Detection pots is a thing if you struggle.
Detection pods are not useful.From reading all these threads i think some customers might be running third party stealth of the artificial aiming style..This game has more than enough Cloak counters:
True vision pots
Magelight (Mages guild)
Expert Hunter (Fighter guild)
Revealing Flare (Support AvA)
Countless amount of nontarget ground or caster based AOEs
Shame you cant use any of those if you want a build to fight back with lol
ESO is made for NB & DKs. Dont waste time in arguing with NB noobs. They never going to reroll anything. Reroll the NB or DK. In next patch NB can detect who are all using detection mechanisms. Fantastic balance isnt it?
This game has complete bias for NB & DK. Dont bother arguing it.Edited by Priyasekarssk on August 12, 2018 4:02PM3 -
Priyasekarssk✭✭✭✭✭The_Protagonist wrote: »Being a Nightblade fanatic and the only class I love playing on, I can easily find stealthing NBs, my favorite approach is flanking the enemy and using Radiant Mage light when solo.
When in group I swap to Sentry with detect potions and Radiant Mage Light, the moment I see them I inform my team and light attack making sure that my team sees them
Just understand how the class works, the first few times you die is a learning experience and you get better. If you are dying several times then you really need to L2P and GiT GuD.
NB is the claass. I love to play to. I have a BG where I top scored with 20+ kills without any death only from sniping lol. Its an L2P issue for NB without looking for cheese. Its ZOS biased and noob nighlblades cheese issue. Now NB can detect who are all using detect pots or mage light. Its going to be even fun.Edited by Priyasekarssk on August 8, 2018 1:56PM0 -
Savos_Saren✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭As initially noted by Beruge, their invisibility breaks the second they attack you and detect pots can be very effective against players who are overly focused on remaining cloaked.
Every player has access to invisibility via invisibility pots. My personal preference is the one that also increases your movement speed.
More drastic counters to invisibility are skills like mage light, expert hunter, and revealing flare, which some might not be willing to slot. Of course, you could also make use of regular AoE abilities. If you know the approximate location of the invisible player you could drop an AoE ability in that direction and if the player is slow/inexperienced you can keep them from cloaking with this tactic.
Not true. It doesn't always work.Unfadingsilence wrote: »Sounds like YET another L2P post right here. Since when you attack anyone from stealth or cloak, even using an invisibly pot it pulls you right out of stealth once the first attack hits you. There are MANY counters to NBs who use cloak. Any and I mean ANY AOE abilities, inner light, detect pots <---real good here probably the best shut down to any and I mean ANY nb who's running cloak.
Nope.Invisibility breaks the minute you attack anything or interact with the environment.
It also breaks the minute someone uses a detect pot or magelight or an aoe damage ability. Be that someone.
Negative.
https://youtu.be/pOeXNFiYvdA Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.
PC NA AD
Savos Saren0 -
hakan✭✭✭✭✭Priyasekarssk wrote: »In no game, ever, should a player be able to stand right next to another player and do melee damage while remaining invisible. This is *** ridiculous. We shouldn't have to fight invisible players. Stealth is for being stealthy, not for doing melee damage while standing right next to another player and remaining invisible.
If they attack you, that breaks their stealth. Unless they stealth again. Detection pots is a thing if you struggle.
Detection pods are not useful.From reading all these threads i think some customers might be running third party stealth of the artificial aiming style..This game has more than enough Cloak counters:
True vision pots
Magelight (Mages guild)
Expert Hunter (Fighter guild)
Revealing Flare (Support AvA)
Countless amount of nontarget ground or caster based AOEs
Shame you cant use any of those if you want a build to fight back with lol
ESO for made for NB & DKs. Dont waste time in arguing with NB noobs. They never going to reroll anything. Reroll the NB or DK. In next patch NB can detect who are all using detection mechanisms. Fantastic balance isnt it?
This game has complete bias for NB & DK. Dont bother arguing it.
ah so the sorc domination was a dream after all? like there are sorc every where and the most played race is high elf kinda proves it.
Edit: the ones who attacks you and REMAINING invis could be a bug. ive seen same thing happened and the invis guy was stamsorc.Edited by hakan on August 8, 2018 3:23PM0 -
Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Savos_Saren wrote: »As initially noted by Beruge, their invisibility breaks the second they attack you and detect pots can be very effective against players who are overly focused on remaining cloaked.
Every player has access to invisibility via invisibility pots. My personal preference is the one that also increases your movement speed.
More drastic counters to invisibility are skills like mage light, expert hunter, and revealing flare, which some might not be willing to slot. Of course, you could also make use of regular AoE abilities. If you know the approximate location of the invisible player you could drop an AoE ability in that direction and if the player is slow/inexperienced you can keep them from cloaking with this tactic.
Not true. It doesn't always work.Unfadingsilence wrote: »Sounds like YET another L2P post right here. Since when you attack anyone from stealth or cloak, even using an invisibly pot it pulls you right out of stealth once the first attack hits you. There are MANY counters to NBs who use cloak. Any and I mean ANY AOE abilities, inner light, detect pots <---real good here probably the best shut down to any and I mean ANY nb who's running cloak.
Nope.Invisibility breaks the minute you attack anything or interact with the environment.
It also breaks the minute someone uses a detect pot or magelight or an aoe damage ability. Be that someone.
Negative.https://youtu.be/pOeXNFiYvdA
Yeah. That never works for me either.
Detect pots do work at least.0 -
Malacthulhu✭✭✭✭Do you mean like umm, actually have it work properly? I just read the title sorry.Xbox One Na0 -
Hixtory✭✭✭✭Well, I always run inmovability detect pots, if they are seen they are dead. And is hilarious seeing them spam the cloak and be denied. I find it funny even when they do it to me in both my nb.
Have killed, and have been killed for this.
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Malacthulhu✭✭✭✭Well, I always run inmovability detect pots, if they are seen they are dead. And is hilarious seeing them spam the cloak and be denied. I find it funny even when they do it to me in both my nb.
Have killed, and have been killed for this.
Nothing to nerf here, moving on
I am a pretty horrible nb and I think I have discovered all the ways that cloak doesnt help me.Xbox One Na1 -
Syncronaut✭✭✭Well, I always run inmovability detect pots, if they are seen they are dead. And is hilarious seeing them spam the cloak and be denied. I find it funny even when they do it to me in both my nb.
Have killed, and have been killed for this.
Nothing to nerf here, moving on
Sounds like a very bad player. I would run to you and incap. Then get some distance where potion doesnt detect any more.0 -
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✭✭Savos_Saren wrote: »As initially noted by Beruge, their invisibility breaks the second they attack you and detect pots can be very effective against players who are overly focused on remaining cloaked.
Every player has access to invisibility via invisibility pots. My personal preference is the one that also increases your movement speed.
More drastic counters to invisibility are skills like mage light, expert hunter, and revealing flare, which some might not be willing to slot. Of course, you could also make use of regular AoE abilities. If you know the approximate location of the invisible player you could drop an AoE ability in that direction and if the player is slow/inexperienced you can keep them from cloaking with this tactic.
Not true. It doesn't always work.Unfadingsilence wrote: »Sounds like YET another L2P post right here. Since when you attack anyone from stealth or cloak, even using an invisibly pot it pulls you right out of stealth once the first attack hits you. There are MANY counters to NBs who use cloak. Any and I mean ANY AOE abilities, inner light, detect pots <---real good here probably the best shut down to any and I mean ANY nb who's running cloak.
Nope.Invisibility breaks the minute you attack anything or interact with the environment.
It also breaks the minute someone uses a detect pot or magelight or an aoe damage ability. Be that someone.
Negative.https://youtu.be/pOeXNFiYvdA
Which is why I emphasized that the tactic could work on slow/inexperienced players. A fast nightblade can move out of most AoE and cloak up again regardless of their skill level, while an experienced nightblade might use some trickery like their shadow pet to teleport to a different area and cloak up again. From my experience my blockade of storms can get the job done, but like you said AoE in general doesn't always work. For instance, my short-ranged boundless storm rarely pulls people out of cloak, but when my Grothdarr procs as long as I keep moving I can prevent someone from staying cloaked for a bit.
I agree that cloak can be quite strong when used by an experienced player, but when used by an amateur who can't even be bothered to move out of an AoE and reposition to a more ideal location it's funny to see them fail to cloak time and time again.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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✭Savos_Saren wrote: »As initially noted by Beruge, their invisibility breaks the second they attack you and detect pots can be very effective against players who are overly focused on remaining cloaked.
Every player has access to invisibility via invisibility pots. My personal preference is the one that also increases your movement speed.
More drastic counters to invisibility are skills like mage light, expert hunter, and revealing flare, which some might not be willing to slot. Of course, you could also make use of regular AoE abilities. If you know the approximate location of the invisible player you could drop an AoE ability in that direction and if the player is slow/inexperienced you can keep them from cloaking with this tactic.
Not true. It doesn't always work.Unfadingsilence wrote: »Sounds like YET another L2P post right here. Since when you attack anyone from stealth or cloak, even using an invisibly pot it pulls you right out of stealth once the first attack hits you. There are MANY counters to NBs who use cloak. Any and I mean ANY AOE abilities, inner light, detect pots <---real good here probably the best shut down to any and I mean ANY nb who's running cloak.
Nope.Invisibility breaks the minute you attack anything or interact with the environment.
It also breaks the minute someone uses a detect pot or magelight or an aoe damage ability. Be that someone.
Negative.https://youtu.be/pOeXNFiYvdA
Psst... He ran up the stairs.1 -
D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DuskMarine wrote: »
Could be a latency issue on your end.DuskMarine wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom so yall ready to admit this games busted yet? i hit a infinite loading screen and then i force crash out cause of no choice in the matter. and i had to reacknowledge that i know your terms of service, acknowledged of where i was in the world and what server i was on and so on all again. but thats not the best part my ui when i came in was all screwed up. so i dont know what yall are doing but yall need to fix the game already cause its snowballing and is gonna get to the point of no return if you guys keep leaving it alone.
Magelight works fine for me. If you're having connection issues like you stated above then this is the more likely cause of your magelight not working. Do you have a video by any chance?
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/421465/hey-zos-ready-to-admit-your-games-broken-yet#latestEdited by D0PAMINE on August 8, 2018 6:52PM0 -
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✭Really the only thing I wish they´d change is the radius of the FG/MG detection skills which is kind of short.0 -
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✭Kuramas9tails wrote: »It's not the melee players who *** me off because I can magelight and counter their failed attack but its the one button pressing Poison Injection bow players who have Sloads, Valkyn, Viper and double dot poisons. It's even worse when it's a group of them. They are the garbage of Cyrodiil. Once they are off that wall though, because they are in all divines, they take two hits and they are practically dead. But standing up on that wall, spamming one attack, truly dishonorable and garbage player in PVP. Zero respect.
You can keep your worthless respect, but I'll take all that yummy ap.
Signed, a one button spammer.There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man, true nobility is being superior to your former self
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Invisibility isn't even remotely OP. I play as an NB a lot and it's incredibly frustrating, if you are being targeted, you don't lose line of sight before cloak ends or someone has damage text on and just follows the "Miss" text... I know that "Miss" text is a thing because I have chased NB in BG and I always know where they are because of it. It requires skill to stay hidden after an attack on a group and even then you can fail.
All that is happening us you are forgetting all the NB you killed easily and didn't stay hidden, and focusing on the ones who pulled it off. Bet you've killed many NB without realizing.0 -
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✭✭People don't actually understand actual detection radius of abilities are not always what they are on the tooltip.
They are modified by your targets detection radius. 7/7 medium armor is 65% the detection radius. Racial and other 2m/3m reductions are added to the end of calculations.
A detect pot only increases your detection range by 20 meters. Magelight/evil hunter are 6 meters Radiant magelight is 12 meters.
"cloak" reduces the basic detection ranges of stealth to 0. Regular stealth is Forward=20 meters, Side=10 meters, Behind=5 meters. The medium armor bonus is applied *after* your adjustment to detection range.
ie Bosmer Nightblade in 7 medium armor w/ night mother's embrace set. (*.65 is medium bonus)
F:20m*.65=13m (-3 bosmer, -2 night mother)=8m
S:10m*.65=6.5m (-3b/-2nm)=1.5m
B:5m*.65=3.25m (-3b/-2nm)=(negative)1.75
Vs Bosmer NB (as above) with detection pot.
F:40m*.65=26m(-3b/-2nm)=21m
S:30m*.65= 19.5m(-3b/-2nm)=14.5m
B:25m*.65=16.3m(-3b/-2nm)=11.3m
Cloaking Bosmer NB vs normal detection.
F:0m-5=-5meters
S:0m-5=--5meters
B:0m-5=--5meters
Cloaking Bosmer NB vs detect pot (+20 meters)
F:0m+20m*.65=13m (-3 bosmer, -2 night mother)=8m
S:0m+20m*.65=13m (-3 bosmer, -2 night mother)=8m
B:0m+20m*.65=13m (-3 bosmer, -2 night mother)=8m
Cloaking vs Magelight/hunters
F:0m+6m*.65=3.9 (-3 bosmer, -2 night mother)=-1.1m
S:0m+6m*.65=3.9 (-3 bosmer, -2 night mother)=-1.1m
B:0m+6m*.65=3.9 (-3 bosmer, -2 night mother)=-1.1m
or (because I'm not 100% on this)
F:0m+6m=6 (-3 bosmer, -2 night mother)=1
S:0m+6m=6 (-3 bosmer, -2 night mother)=1
B:0m+6m=6 (-3 bosmer, -2 night mother)=1
Cloaking vs radiant
F:0m+12m*.65=7.8 (-3 bosmer, -2 night mother)=2.8m
S:0m+12m*.65=7.8 (-3 bosmer, -2 night mother)=2.8m
B:0m+12m*.65=7.8 (-3 bosmer, -2 night mother)=2.8m
or (again not 100% sure)
F:0m+12m=12(-5)=7m
S:0m+12m=12(-5)=7m
B:0m+12m=12(-5)=7m
*note magelight/radiant ought reveal anything in their base detection range. What would be in question is if that base is affected by racial/armor.
P.S. The continuing wrinkle is how "invisibility" as an effect operates. "invisibility" is -30 meters off the back end of equation. You aren't detecting it easily (particularly if it's a nb with racials/armor) and MANY bowblades/gankblades use invis potions.
Heavy armor dude (who's drunk) with no racial or armor bonuses to calculate vs you
F:20m-30m=-10m
S:10m-30m=-20m
B:5m-30m=-25m
Heavy armor dude (who's drunk) with no racial or armor bonsus to calculate vs Detect pot.
F:20m+20m=40m-30m=10m
S:10m+20m=30m-30m=0m
B:5m+20m=25m-30=-5m
Edited by rfennell_ESO on August 8, 2018 8:50PM2 -
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✭✭The question people need to ask themselves is "was it an invisibility pot".
Cloak is hard to detect but you can usually find them if you know how to use detection.
Invisibility pots versus a medium armor nb? You have 0 chance of ever detecting them Unless you are using multiple types of stacking detection. Detections all stack and are all increased by sentry set.
Just for Shiiit's and giggles:
Bosmer NB (as above) using invis pot vs Detect pot + radiant + sentry set.
F:20m+30m=50m*.65=32.5m+18m=50.5m(-5)45.5-30m=15.5m
S:40m*.65=26m+18m=44m(-5)39-30m=9m
B:35*.65=21m+18m=39m(-5)34m-30m=4m
Edit to correct math ;pEdited by rfennell_ESO on August 9, 2018 7:30PM1 -
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The AOE damage ability DOES break cloak, but recloaking immediately after getting out of it will keep the NB safe, but the NB MUST move out. The OP's post is about a completely invisible NB destroying them from melee range. Your video illustrates a NB who has obviously moved away from you. @ me when you can show me a video of a completely stealthed NB damaging you at melee range while you spam Inhale.Savos_Saren wrote: »Edited by efster on August 10, 2018 2:37AMAD is the best looking faction. I don't make the rules, I just enforce them.1 -
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This game has complete bias for NB & DK. Dont bother arguing it.
Do you even sorc bro1 -
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✭This game has more than enough Cloak counters:
True vision pots
Magelight (Mages guild)
Expert Hunter (Fighter guild)
Revealing Flare (Support AvA)
Countless amount of nontarget ground or caster based AOEs
Nothing counters cloak. Nightblades always have the 1st hit combo with resource draining poisons + maim + defile. Bringing most players health down to critical levels. You have to use a potion to recover with a 40 second GCD. Revealing Potions are just not pratical. Everything else you listed cant even help other players find my magplar when they know im sneaking around. Needle in the haystack. Even your class reps admit that cloak needs to be brought down.1
