Change how NB invisibility works please
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I feel it should be more like:
Rush of the lag fest.
2 items: +50 Ping
3 items: when 3 or more enemy players are somewhat near you, your FPS will be decreased by 50%.
4 items: +50 Ping
5 items: when you or anyone around you do(es) anything, your game has a 10% chance to proc the freeze, disconnect, or crash status effect. This effect can occur once every 5 minutes. Additionally, when you do absolutely nothing, you will have a 6% chance to proc an unusually long loading screen popping up out of nowhere. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.
Edited by Vizikul on August 7, 2018 10:00PMPugging. Pugging all the way to victory.Imperial Dragonknight --- male, stamina, heavy & medium armor, dual wield, one hand and shield, two handed.
Breton Templar --- female, magicka, light armor, restoration staff.
Redguard Warden --- female, stamina, medium armor, bow.
Breton Sorcerer --- male, magicka, light armor, destruction staff.
Imperial Templar --- male, stamina, medium armor, two handed.
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✭✭✭✭jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »Anyone remember Oblivion's Chameleon 100%+ ?
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I feel it should be more like:
2 items: +50 Ping
3 items: when 3 or more enemy players are somewhat near you, your FPS will be decreased by 50%.
4 items: +50 Ping
5 items: when you or anyone around you do(es) anything, your game has a 10% chance to proc the freeze, disconnect, or crash status effect. This effect can occur once every 5 minutes. Additionally, when you do absolutely nothing, you will have a 6% chance to proc an unusually long loading screen popping up out of nowhere. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.
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✭✭✭✭✭jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »Anyone remember Oblivion's Chameleon 100%+ ?
That's actually why I quit playing the game, got boring playing in God mode, but I couldn't bring myself to unequip it.0 -
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✭✭✭If you are talking about the bug where players walk around invisible and you mostly just see what looks like headlights, that's not exclusive to NBs.
If you are talking about NBs attacking in stealth, they get exposed when they begin their attack and there are many counters to their cloaking.
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✭✭As initially noted by Beruge, their invisibility breaks the second they attack you and detect pots can be very effective against players who are overly focused on remaining cloaked.
Every player has access to invisibility via invisibility pots. My personal preference is the one that also increases your movement speed.
More drastic counters to invisibility are skills like mage light, expert hunter, and revealing flare, which some might not be willing to slot. Of course, you could also make use of regular AoE abilities. If you know the approximate location of the invisible player you could drop an AoE ability in that direction and if the player is slow/inexperienced you can keep them from cloaking with this tactic.
When a nightblade attacks you from stealth, takes you down to 15% health and uses resource draining potions, peoples first instint is to use a potion to get their health back. Detect potions sounds nice and can work in group settings but we lose the opportunity to use our fighting potions.
Every other form of detection is like finding a needle in a haystack. On my magplar i kept trying to revive a fallen comrade and people were throwing out revealing flairs to try and find me. Its was an exercise in futility.
I know what you mean. Using a detect pot can sometimes end up being a fatal error on my part, which is why it is my least used pot. I mostly use my AoE first before deciding to use a detect pot. Also all my armor pieces are impenetrable and I have 24k health, so when I am ganked my health doesn't get too low and if it is just one ganker I don't have to waste a combat pot.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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GawdSB✭✭✭✭✭I don't mind the initial cloaking, but cloaking in the middle of fighting and negating any attack that you are currently doing is way too much. Gives them way too much power over the pace of the battle.4
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✭✭✭✭✭I recently had a bug where an enemy sorc was invisible to my entire team for the full duration of a battleground match. It was obviously a bug. Naturally we lost as it's pretty much impossible to stop a relic carrier you can't target.
Perhaps OP encountered the same bug?This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.0 -
TheInfernalRage✭✭✭✭✭I don't even see the point of this post. Read skill tooltips, and learn at least the basic mechanics of this game. It's not like it's hidden behind a wall of secrecy.0 -
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This set pairs wonderfully with the loading screen of death monster setAussie lag is real!5 -
efster✭✭✭✭✭Invisibility breaks the minute you attack anything or interact with the environment.
It also breaks the minute someone uses a detect pot or magelight or an aoe damage ability. Be that someone.AD is the best looking faction. I don't make the rules, I just enforce them.1 -
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This set pairs wonderfully with the loading screen of death monster set
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DanteYoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭From reading all these threads i think some customers might be running third party stealth of the artificial aiming style..This game has more than enough Cloak counters:
True vision pots
Magelight (Mages guild)
Expert Hunter (Fighter guild)
Revealing Flare (Support AvA)
Countless amount of nontarget ground or caster based AOEs
Shame you cant use any of those if you want a build to fight back with lolEdited by DanteYoda on August 8, 2018 5:00AM2 -
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✭✭✭I would gladly give up my cloak for a shield ability
You can, just play in light armor to get the light armor shield.
You will be easily killed then? Welcome to the world of Sorcs.
Playing in light armor is impossible now with no RuneCage against cloaking gankers.
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✭In no game, ever, should a player be able to stand right next to another player and do melee damage while remaining invisible. This is *** ridiculous. We shouldn't have to fight invisible players. Stealth is for being stealthy, not for doing melee damage while standing right next to another player and remaining invisible.
Its not NB its stealth pots...0 -
yurimodin✭✭✭saved all those images before they get ganked.......anyway I main a NB. We are VERY SQUISHY. I actually had a better time with my Magplar and Warden tank in sub 50 cyrodil than I had with my NB in non-CP cyro.0
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TempPlayer✭✭✭✭✭I agree with something need to be done with nightblade invisible skill. First of all, it doesn't make sense why we are forced to reveal ourselves when we use range attack. We should remain invisible if we use range attack.
Secondly, all counter toward cloak should be removed. I mean the defensive skill on some other class like sorcerer's lightning form, or templar's rune focus, or dragonknight's spiked armor, or warden's frost cloak.......Actually all other classes except nightblade, cannot be countered and can be use during fight and have much longer duration then cloak. So why does our main defence can be countered so many way. Either remove the counter or make those counter remove other classes added defence as well.
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I main nightblades. I have tried it. It's not hard to play. One poison inject is NOT enough to kill but if you read my post, it's the proc sets on top of it and the continuous spam of poison inject. Literally, proc sets do a lot of the damage for these builds.pdebie64b16_ESO wrote: »Kuramas9tails wrote: »It's not the melee players who *** me off because I can magelight and counter their failed attack but its the one button pressing Poison Injection bow players who have Sloads, Valkyn, Viper and double dot poisons. It's even worse when it's a group of them. They are the garbage of Cyrodiil. Once they are off that wall though, because they are in all divines, they take two hits and they are practically dead. But standing up on that wall, spamming one attack, truly dishonorable and garbage player in PVP. Zero respect.
You are wrong, try to play one and you will see its not that easy as you say, and only poison injection is not enough to kill other players or you must be a terrible player.Your friendly neighborhood crazy cat lady of ESO
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✭I play a Stamblade regularly in Cyro and I must say that stealth for me is broken. I have never been able to attack and then re-stealth unless I am using cloak and this is only for 2 or so seconds.
Once my stamblade is attacked or hit by AOE or I attack another player with my bow/duel wield, I cannot re-stealth even after using cloak for at least 30 seconds.I will use cloak, then after 2 seconds and I took no further damage I still cannot stealth.
I would really like to see how this person is remaining in stealth so well after each attack. I think this is not entirely true of a statement. If the person was light attacking/skill then cloaking the attacks would be coming so slow that you would easily survive.
I have seen some magblades do some serious burst damage from stealth and they can use cloak a lot, but not after each attack.
Observations from a mediocre stamblade
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✭✭✭The ones you need to worry about are the ones that stun you and fire off 7 different attacks instantly.2
