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Is the player population really dead?
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Wifeaggro13✭✭✭✭✭
✭leepalmer95 wrote: »
You are correct eso peaked a while back most of the long term players leaned in hard and yearn for 20161 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Wifeaggro13 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »
You are correct eso peaked a while back most of the long term players leaned in hard and yearn for 2016
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Just curious. Under ESO it says about half million players. Didn't Zenimax brag on 10 million? That is a HUGE difference.
10 million copies sold (accounts). They confirmed awhile ago that they have something like 2 million active players every month. That site bases their numbers on people visiting reddit. Which is just laughable that they are trying to correlate players logging in to a third party forum to potential players logging into the games that are listed.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax1 -
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✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Eh, no. These are people with "real names" doing normal stuff players do - dueling, harvesting, looking in bag, looking at map, mounting, using wayshrines etc. I'm pretty sure I haven't seen a bot yet in this game. I may not get to places they go much.
Took me a while to see them, but when I saw about 5 or more toons all in the same pose, doing the exact same movements, it had to be bots. Attack mud crab or bear or what ever, go back to rock, hunch and repeat. What humans do that?Not my quote but I love this saying
"I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"2 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »Eh, no. These are people with "real names" doing normal stuff players do - dueling, harvesting, looking in bag, looking at map, mounting, using wayshrines etc. I'm pretty sure I haven't seen a bot yet in this game. I may not get to places they go much.
They're usually running around in a loop doing dolmens, repeating loots kill mobs that drop hide or botting mats etc...
Or botting levels to sell the account.
Ah, that's the @leepalmer95 I knew and missed. "The bots are geniuses, they've figured out how to disguise themselves as real people. They've even coded them to call me rude things when I call them out in zone chat. It's amazing!"
In fairness to you, there is an extremely frustrating bot problem. But, it's not an epidemic. Also, if you're seeing, "bots," doing dolmens... those aren't bots. Mindlessly farming the same 30 mob pulls all week? Yeah, might be a bot. When you see 24 players walking in exactly the same point, running the exact same route, spamming the same attacks, yeah, that's bots.2 -
Wifeaggro13✭✭✭✭✭
✭Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »
Just curious. Under ESO it says about half million players. Didn't Zenimax brag on 10 million? That is a HUGE difference.
10 million copies sold (accounts). They confirmed awhile ago that they have something like 2 million active players every month. That site bases their numbers on people visiting reddit. Which is just laughable that they are trying to correlate players logging in to a third party forum to potential players logging into the games that are listed.
10 million accounts including trials. That is not copies sold even the investor call wouldn't make that claim.i could see 2 million showing up after a dlc. But almost all the sites that track player activities in mmos claim eso is at about 500k actives0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »
Just curious. Under ESO it says about half million players. Didn't Zenimax brag on 10 million? That is a HUGE difference.
10 million copies sold (accounts). They confirmed awhile ago that they have something like 2 million active players every month. That site bases their numbers on people visiting reddit. Which is just laughable that they are trying to correlate players logging in to a third party forum to potential players logging into the games that are listed.
Also worth noting, the population estimates for that site aren't the main draw. The site's set up to measure MMO popularity on Reddit. So, it does that. I tries to use that as an overall litmus test for an MMO's popularity as a whole... which, okay, kinda, I guess. The actual population numbers? No, those are just guesses.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Wifeaggro13 wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »
Just curious. Under ESO it says about half million players. Didn't Zenimax brag on 10 million? That is a HUGE difference.
10 million copies sold (accounts). They confirmed awhile ago that they have something like 2 million active players every month. That site bases their numbers on people visiting reddit. Which is just laughable that they are trying to correlate players logging in to a third party forum to potential players logging into the games that are listed.
10 million accounts including trials. That is not copies sold even the investor call wouldn't make that claim.i could see 2 million showing up after a dlc. But almost all the sites that track player activities in mmos claim eso is at about 500k actives
Id love to see these sites. Because if theyre anything like the laughable subreddit one above, Im sure Ill be having a good laugh tonight.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax0 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Eh, no. These are people with "real names" doing normal stuff players do - dueling, harvesting, looking in bag, looking at map, mounting, using wayshrines etc. I'm pretty sure I haven't seen a bot yet in this game. I may not get to places they go much.
Took me a while to see them, but when I saw about 5 or more toons all in the same pose, doing the exact same movements, it had to be bots. Attack mud crab or bear or what ever, go back to rock, hunch and repeat. What humans do that?
I haven't seen that so far. *shrug* Works for me.0 -
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✭Population on PS4 Europe is so low during off peak time for us down under
A single group of about 12 in vivec is the normAussie lag is real!0 -
Wifeaggro13✭✭✭✭✭
✭Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Wifeaggro13 wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »
Just curious. Under ESO it says about half million players. Didn't Zenimax brag on 10 million? That is a HUGE difference.
10 million copies sold (accounts). They confirmed awhile ago that they have something like 2 million active players every month. That site bases their numbers on people visiting reddit. Which is just laughable that they are trying to correlate players logging in to a third party forum to potential players logging into the games that are listed.
10 million accounts including trials. That is not copies sold even the investor call wouldn't make that claim.i could see 2 million showing up after a dlc. But almost all the sites that track player activities in mmos claim eso is at about 500k actives
Id love to see these sites. Because if theyre anything like the laughable subreddit one above, Im sure Ill be having a good laugh tonight.
please share your thoughts on what you think the active player base of this game is. Because the investors report is not reflecting 2 million people playing. the game is healthy and profitable bu no where near some MMOS at there 4 year mark. Even with B2P and a cash shop1 -
Jake1576✭✭✭✭✭Played on ps4 na since the game was released and all i got to say about it is the the population use to be bigger then it is now but there are lots still but with how much nonsense that is allowed to happen and how toxic ps4 na is the population will probably continue to decrease until it's dead or not many remain it's the lack of attention and monitoring the game that has a lot of players on ps4 wanting to quit to the point that they do cheating and toxicity are rampant on ps4 na and their is never anything that gets done about it either we have no major streamers on ps4 either eso on ps4 is just there to play but it almost feels at times like it's really not a game owned by a company who takes care of it because zos lack of involvement on ps4Edited by Jake1576 on August 9, 2018 4:26AM0
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evoniee✭✭✭✭it might be decreasing because of new invisible mode feature that hide people active playing certain game and it affect data collecting site such as steamchartsdotcom0 -
Sevalaricgirl✭✭✭✭✭I don't know, at 4:30AM this morning, NA/PC, I was in a delve in Summerset and there were several players there. I doubt the game is dying but most people don't play on Steam since sometimes Steam sucks.1
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SlippyCheeze✭✭✭Sailor_Palutena wrote: »
No, but the steam stats only count players who log in through steam, not the ones who log in separately, which was the point they were trying to make. Someone cited the steam player counts in support of the game being dead because they are bad at logic mistaken about what they mean.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Sailor_Palutena wrote: »
Steam has a separate login server (that applies over top of the normal PC login server), but they actually play on PCNA or PCEU. However, when the steam login server goes down, steam players are locked out of their game. (This happened several times leading into and after the Summerset launch.)1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Thrasher91604 wrote: »Well the posts on this forum have dropped off quite a bit, if that's any indication.
Probably due to the increasing lack of originality in the topics. One can only read about guild traders, OP sorcerers, making picking a flower account-wide, or the performance issues in Cyrodiil so many times before deciding to spend more time playing the game instead
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✭✭✭✭✭Thrasher91604 wrote: »Well the posts on this forum have dropped off quite a bit, if that's any indication.
Probably due to the increasing lack of originality in the topics. One can only read about guild traders, OP sorcerers, making picking a flower account-wide, or the performance issues in Cyrodiil so many times before deciding to spend more time playing the game instead !
Also, it's summer - people might just be out doing something else besides messing around on a forum.0 -
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✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Thrasher91604 wrote: »Well the posts on this forum have dropped off quite a bit, if that's any indication.
Probably due to the increasing lack of originality in the topics. One can only read about guild traders, OP sorcerers, making picking a flower account-wide, or the performance issues in Cyrodiil so many times before deciding to spend more time playing the game instead !
Also, it's summer - people might just be out doing something else besides messing around on a forum.
It's only summer in the Northern hemisphere.
It's Winter in the Southern hemisphere.
That's half a world
It's 2018. Your ignorance on this issue no longer has a valid excuse.
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✭✭✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Thrasher91604 wrote: »Well the posts on this forum have dropped off quite a bit, if that's any indication.
Probably due to the increasing lack of originality in the topics. One can only read about guild traders, OP sorcerers, making picking a flower account-wide, or the performance issues in Cyrodiil so many times before deciding to spend more time playing the game instead !
Also, it's summer - people might just be out doing something else besides messing around on a forum.
Like staying alive in a heat wave or trying to break a record in downing long island ice tea.0 -
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✭✭✭ESO is doing fine as long as your having fun. I haven't played much this summer because you know... 30°C degrees and i love working in my garden and doing stuff outside when the weather allows it. And i think many people do.
When the rain comes people will play more.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Androconium wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »Thrasher91604 wrote: »Well the posts on this forum have dropped off quite a bit, if that's any indication.
Probably due to the increasing lack of originality in the topics. One can only read about guild traders, OP sorcerers, making picking a flower account-wide, or the performance issues in Cyrodiil so many times before deciding to spend more time playing the game instead !
Also, it's summer - people might just be out doing something else besides messing around on a forum.
It's only summer in the Northern hemisphere.
It's Winter in the Southern hemisphere.
That's half a world
It's 2018. Your ignorance on this issue no longer has a valid excuse.
But not even close to half the players...XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
PC NA/EU: @Elsonso
PSN NA/EU: @ElsonsoJannus
Total in-game hours: 11321
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Androconium wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »Thrasher91604 wrote: »Well the posts on this forum have dropped off quite a bit, if that's any indication.
Probably due to the increasing lack of originality in the topics. One can only read about guild traders, OP sorcerers, making picking a flower account-wide, or the performance issues in Cyrodiil so many times before deciding to spend more time playing the game instead !
Also, it's summer - people might just be out doing something else besides messing around on a forum.
It's only summer in the Northern hemisphere.
It's Winter in the Southern hemisphere.
That's half a world
It's 2018. Your ignorance on this issue no longer has a valid excuse.
Well, winter in the southern hemisphere doesn't mean much - depends on where you are. We were roaming around in the australian outback with around 28 degree C during the day - about 12-14 at night - so this is much like it is in summer in a lot of places in the northern hemisphere. Winter does not mean "it's cold" in all places on earth - a lot do not have cold in winter.2 -
Sogreth✭✭✭SydneyGrey wrote: »Whoever posted that video is flat-out lying.
In fact, not only is the game not dying, it's the healthiest it's ever been.
Now who's lying.
Being popular doesn't mean that it's good. Just look at Justin Bieberthat should already tell you how popular it is..
Who **** on your cornflakes?Androconium wrote: »It's 2018. Your ignorance on this issue no longer has a valid excuse.Edited by Sogreth on August 10, 2018 2:40PM1
