Is the player population really dead?

AlexanderDeLarge

geekboy09 wrote: »

I made a mistake the video said 200000 instead of 3000 but still

but still? Don't make a mistake like that and not own up to it. 3000 is a far cry from 20,000. 3,000 split across multiple regions split across Cyrodiil/Battlegrounds/the rest of the game would be fairly small and grouped content would be hard to engage in. 20,000 is a very different story.... And even that's not correct because that's only accounting for Steam users.

SteamCharts only accounts for users who went against the universal advice of DO NOT BUY ESO ON STEAM

Cadbury

geekboy09 wrote: »

I made a mistake the video said 200000 instead of 3000 but still

You're my new friend, OP

oddavi

MajesticHaruki wrote: »

Population is fine for a game that focuses entirely on milking cows.

Eh, Its still a lot better than Neverwinter.

geekboy09

I was just searching for the player base number, and @Alcast, chill bro, I made a mistake

NickStern

Alcast wrote: »

Make up your on mind, do not let others tell you what to think. And this game is far away from being bad. I mean it is in the TOP 3 MMOs list......that should already tell you how popular it is..

Ironic

geekboy09

I misinterpreted MMObited. He estimates the total playerbase is around six hundred thousand

geekboy09

It’s no WOW numbers

AlexanderDeLarge

geekboy09 wrote: »

It’s no WOW numbers

And what difference does that 10 million number make when no one's interacting with each other? World of Warcraft is incredibly anti-social. You don't need 10 million people in a game where the organized group content only needs 12 people max.

SilverWF

Steam sucks

Uviryth

AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »

geekboy09 wrote: »

It’s no WOW numbers

And what difference does that 10 million number make when no one's interacting with each other? World of Warcraft is incredibly anti-social. You don't need 10 million people in a game where the organized group content only needs 12 people max.

And ESO isnt? Without tweaking the UI you cant even differentiate players from NPCs in the world.
Dungeons are exactly the same in WoW and ESO. They start with a "Hi", they end with a "bye". Unless something happens, then its salty language and questioning sexual orientations.
The Chat in PvP is EXACTLY the same in WoW and ESO, even with the same tropes (like "Y no DEFF MINE, U NOOB SUXX")
Raids are even worse, because they dont engage the community at all, only organized groups.

Plus ESO has the added disadvantage of not engaging players with one another in openworld. At all. In WoW you at least feel the presence of other players.

TheDarkoil

There's usually between 10 and 20k logged in through Steam, not sure how that is weighted between the servers but if you reckon people play for 4 hours a day I'd say you have at least 60k playing everyday through Steam maybe more at the weekends.

Eso101rus

Ps4 Eu, The game is far from dead, but the pvp issues may have caused about 60-70% of pvpers I know not to have played much since Summerset release. And most of them usually buy crowns a lot. Game revenue must be affected, pvp servers must be optimised, sadly since thieves guild this seems to have been the opposite.

Alcast

Make up your on mind, do not let others tell you what to think. And this game is far away from being bad. I mean it is in the TOP 3 MMOs list......

geekboy09 wrote: »

I was just searching for the player base number, and @Alcast, chill bro, I made a mistake

Hmm I do not think ZOS openly shows those numbers. Could be anything between 20k to 200k. Also depends what you count as playing, because stuff like Daily Login Rewards and Login Events boost the numbers by a lot.

Chaos2088

Nope,

.....also steam doesn't seem to count the endless hours I played through this game as I use the launcher. So maybe don't go by steam numbers

boombazookajd

no. they're all in Orsinium. Go there and see.

zaria

geekboy09 wrote: »

I made a mistake the video said 200000 instead of 3000 but still

200K is high, perhaps its player in an month as in all players who logged in last month is counted.
15K tend to be an average player logged in at once.
As other has said, steam players are just an faction of pc players who again is 1/3 of total player count.

Algorax

I started playing in early 2015 and i see more pp laround NOW than i ever did before!

pod88kk

Xbox EU seems a lot busier, especially after Summerset dropped.

Juju_beans

geekboy09 wrote: »

It’s no WOW numbers

Well no one knows wow's numbers since they stopped reporting subs.
With crz/sharding and redefining what constitutes a 'full realm" you can be sure their numbers are dwindling.

SlippyCheeze

geekboy09 wrote: »

I just saw a YouTube video there was only 2000 players on steam

Totally true. The game itself actually shut down in 2014, after the pain at launch, and the servers are long since dead.

These forums, and the reddit, are just busy because we all like to LARP that the game is running. I mean, we even go so far as to create fake patch notes, and fake "ZOS employee" accounts, to enhance the realism.

Agalloch

I am a member of 5 guilds (PC-EU) , probably not the most populated ones . Each one has over 80 people logged in at peak hours. That's more than 400 people . And there are hundreds , maybe thousands of guilds.
And the numbers increase every week.

So ESO is growing not dying .

I'm sure that more than 90% of the player base don't use Steam. Even if you look at steam charts see ESO is growing.

From many sources compiled I can estimate that ESO has 2 million active ( not counting casual) players..maybe more.


English is not my native language.

Wifeaggro13

geekboy09 wrote: »

I just saw a YouTube video there was only 2000 players on steam

no its not dead thats not a fair representation of the population.People will come on here and try to tell you there are 10 million players though and thats a lie. they have 10 million accounts made and that's including trial accounts. since ESO is not a sub base , the investors call will not reveal anything but what the game made they might say whats portion was made of subs and you could do a little math but it still wont reveal population as its still B2P.

ESO sold roughly 3 to 4 million boxes in its first 2 or 3 years im sure that has gone up . But here is the kicker the game has retained customers horribly i dont think more then 30% of their sales actually play the game regularly. they probably have 300 or 400k actives . more when they release a chapter. all they need is about 20 to 30k barbie doll players to spend 50 bucks a month in their candy shop to make the game a couple million dollars a month Zen found their market and set to milking the cow.

LadyNalcarya

It was probably recorded during steam downtime.
And yeah, not everyone who has steam version plays through steam. I was unable to install it through steam (I know it sounds stupid, but the launcher just wouldnt connect) and started using regular launcher from the very beginning.

neverwalk

STEAM version of ESO SUCKS. ESO is awesome game but not with steam.

Shadowmaster

SpiderKnight wrote: »

Emmagoldman wrote: »

Just checked

https://steamcharts.com/app/306130#All

If you set it to all, it's actually been increasing, as in 10k more from the range from 2014-2016

Because more people are making bot accounts.

This is known as anecdotal evidence. You can say this here, but any real critical thinker just thinks you are talking out of your ***.

LadyNalcarya

SpiderKnight wrote: »

Emmagoldman wrote: »

Just checked

https://steamcharts.com/app/306130#All

If you set it to all, it's actually been increasing, as in 10k more from the range from 2014-2016

Because more people are making bot accounts.

Well, technically that would mean that the game is far from dying.
Botting is used to sell ingame goods and gold for real money, and for that you need people who are willing to buy it. If no one would buy stuff from botters, it wouldnt be profitable.

Sergykid

never saw less than 10k players on Steam. On prime hours i once saw even 30k

on Steam Stats ( https://store.steampowered.com/stats/ ) you can see the peak today was 17k

Ragebull

ZOS should consider themselves lucky to still have the numbers they do. It might not be dying, but obviously long term health is not a priority for them (dismissive of widespread game breaking issues, lazy/disappointing content, sleaze ball business practices, etc).

There should be a warning sign before new people buy ESO...”Warning: Devs don’t care”

SlippyCheeze

neverwalk wrote: »

STEAM version of ESO SUCKS. ESO is awesome game but not with steam.

The Steam version is literally identical to the non-Steam version, save for one thing: it uses the Steam authentication servers to log in, rather than a username and password.

So, yes, that means a steam outage would block logins, but once that hurdle is passed there are no identifiable differences between the two.

Wifeaggro13

MajesticHaruki wrote: »

Population is fine for a game that focuses entirely on milking cows.

you sir have 10 internet points. that was very funny. but sadly true