What is happening here is major and minor slayer were left off the major/minor buff list for this set, and that definitely needs to be fixed.

But in the case of twilight remedy and other synergy based major/minor buffs (atronoch, bone shield, ect) is the synergy does not belong to you (the caster). This is part of the mechanics of synergies and not a bug with the set. Synergies belong to the user (the person who pushed X) not the supplier (the person who provided the synergy). This has always been the case for synergies. It is why a low stat tank can provide a talons synergy with a bad tool tip but when the DPS uses said synergy it actually does higher dmg. You will find that if the synergy user is wearing jorvuns they will get the duration increase on major/minor buffs and shields. But it will not apply if the synergy provider is wearing the set only.

Masel92 wrote: »

I tested and reported this on day two of the PTS cycle, without any notification or feedback from zenimax.

How it works with sets is very very inconsistent, it will for example buff the major expedition you get from vicious ophidian, but not the major expedition you get from dreugh king slayer...

It seems like the internal testers of ZoS forgot to go through sets that give major and minor buffs and have them function consistently.

ahhh rip that really sucks, I hate that the only way to know if it works is to test each set individually since there seems to be no consistency to what works and what doesn't

Princess_Ciri wrote: »

themaddaedra wrote: »

Hey Ciri what sets are you using on your healer? I got Inventor's Guard and Gossamer sets atm and it seems OP but i'd like to compare kappa.

Burning spellweave and song of lamae are my two sets for everything. with 2pc willpower jewellery. very stronk

I can see all now, thank you :O

The guys from eso wiki did tests on i think all skills to see wich are affected, and wich are not.

here is the Link: https://fextralife.com/eso-set-guide-jorvulds-guidance-buff-management/

Notes for PvE Players

As mentioned at the beginning of this article, Jorvuld’s Guidance is really meant for the Healer role in the group. Healing Done, Magicka Recovery and an extension of the duration of Skills like Steadfast Ward, Light’s Champion, Aggressive Horn among others, make this quite obvious. Reinforcing this idea, unfortunately, is the fact that this Set does not enhance Master Architect, which would have extended the duration of Major Slayer by 4 seconds.

This Set does not work with any Buff that is tied to a location or the duration of another effect. For example it does not work with Circle of Protection because you have to be inside the circle to gain the Buffs. Permafrost is also not affected for this reason, because the Major Protection is tied to the time of the damaging AoE, and this Set doesn’t increase the duration of the damage.

This Set also does not boost some of the most powerful Skills and Sets in the game, presumably because they would become TOO powerful. They are listed below because technically they should be affected by Jorvuld’s Guidance, but aren’t.

(following list is taken from the article and all credit goes to fextralife)
Here are the Skills:

Templar

Rune Focus – Restoring Light – Major Ward – Major Resolve (8s to 11.2s)

Remembrance – Restoring Light – Major Protection (10s, unaffected)

Biting Jabs – Aedric Spear – Major Savagery (8s to 11.2s)

Sacred Ground – Restoring Light – Minor Mending (4s to 5.6s, though not reflected on tooltip)

Illuminate – Dawn’s Wrath – Minor Sorcery (20s to 28s)


Warden

Betty Netch – Animal Companions – Major Sorcery (24s to 33.6s)

Bull Netch – Animal Companions – Major Brutality (24s to 33.6s)

Falcon’s Swiftness – Animal Companions – Major Endurance – Major Expedition (10s to 14s)

Deceptive Predator – Animal Companions – Major Endurance – Major Expedition – Minor Evasion (14s to 19.6s, though not reflected on tooltip)

Bird of Prey – Animal Companions – Minor Berserk (10s to 14s)

Accelerated Growth – Green Balance – Major Mending (3s to 4.2s)

Maturation – Green Balance – Minor Toughness (10s to 14s)

Enchanted Growth – Green Balance – Minor Intellect – Minor Endurance (20s to 28s)

Green Lotus – Green Balance – Major Savagery (20s to 28s)

Lotus Blossom – Green Balance – Major Prophecy (20s to 28s)

Frost Cloak – Winter’s Embrace – Major Ward – Major Resolve (21s to 29.4s)

Ice Fortress – Winter’s Embrace – Minor Protection (21s to 29.4s)

Shimmering Shield – Winter’s Embrace – Major Heroism (6s to 8.4s)

Frozen Retreat – Winter’s Embrace – Major Expedition (8s to 11.2s)

Sleet Storm – Winter’s Embrace – Major Protection (8s, unaffected)


Dragonknight

Fiery Grip – Ardent Flame – Major Expedition (6s to 8.4s)

Spiked Armor – Draconic Power – Major Ward – Major Resolve (20s to 28s)

Dragon Blood – Draconic Power – Major Fortitude (20s to 28s)

Green Dragon Blood – Draconic Power – Major Fortitude – Major Endurance – Minor Vitality (20s to 28s)

Reflective Plate – Draconic Power – Minor Ward (20s to 28s)

Mountain’s Blessing – Earthen Heart – Minor Brutality (20s to 28s)

Stone Giant – Earthen Heart – Minor Resolve (15s to 21s)

Molten Weapons – Earthen Heart – Major Sorcery (30s to 42s)

Igneous Weapons – Earthen Heart – Major Brutality (30s to 42s)

Igneous Shield – Earthen Heart – Major Mending (2.5s to 3.5s)


Sorcerer

Summon Storm Atronach – Daedric Summoning – Major Berserk (8s to 11.2s)

Empowered Ward – Daedric Summoning – Minor Intellect (10s to 14s)

Lightning Form – Storm Calling – Major Ward – Major Resolve (15s to 20s)

Hurricane – Storm Calling – Minor Expedition (15s to 20s)

Boundless Storm – Storm Calling – Major Expedition (6s to 8.4s)

Surge – Storm Calling – Major Brutality (33s to 46.2)

Power Surge – Storm Calling – Major Sorcery (33s to 46.2s)


Nightblade

Hemorrhage – Assassination – Minor Savagery (20s to 28s)

Blur – Assassination – Major Evasion (26s to 36.4s)

Mirage – Assassination – Minor Resolve – Minor Ward (26s to 36.4s)

Double Take – Assassination – Major Expedition (4s to 5.6s)

Reaper’s Mark – Assassination – Major Berserk (5s to 7s)

Grim Focus – Assassination – Minor Berserk (20s to 28s, though not reflected on tooltip)

Relentless Focus – Assassination – Minor Endurance (20s to 28s, though not reflected on tooltip)

Shadow Barrier – Shadow – Major Ward – Major Resolve (6s to 8.4s, affected by Heavy Armor)

Consuming Darkness – Shadow – Major Protection (13.5s, unaffected)

Dark Cloak – Shadow – Minor Protection (5s to 7s)

Path of Darkness – Shadow – Major Expedition (2s to 2.8s)

Soul Siphon – Siphoning – Major Vitality (4s to 5.6s)

Healthy Offering – Siphoning – Minor Mending (8s to 11.2s)

Cripple – Siphoning – Major Expedition (8s, unaffected)

Drain Power – Siphoning – Major Brutality (20s to 28s)

Sap Essence – Siphoning – Major Sorcery (20s to 28s)


Weapons

Momentum – Two-Handed – Major Brutality (33s to 46.2s, though not reflected on tooltip)

Heroic Slash – One-Handed and Shield – Minor Heroism (9s to 12.2s)

Ransack – One-Handed and Shield – Minor Resolve (12s to 16.8s)

Whirling Blades – Dual Wield – Major Endurance (10s to 14s)

Quick Cloak – Dual Wield – Major Expedition (5s to 7s)

Hidden Blade – Dual Wield – Major Brutality (20s to 28s)

Hasty Retreat – Bow – Major Expedition (5s to 7s)

Essence Drain – Restoration Staff – Major Mending (3s to 4.2s)

Light’s Champion – Restoration Staff – Major Force – Major Protection (5s to 7s)

Blessing of Protection – Restoration Staff – Minor Ward – Minor Resolve (8s to 11.2s)

Combat Prayer – Restoration Staff – Minor Berserk (8s to 11.2s)


Armor

Evasion – Medium Armor – Major Evasion (20s to 28s)

Immovable – Heavy Armor – Major Ward – Major Resolve (20s to 28s, though not reflected on tooltip)


Guild

Circle of Protection – Fighters Guild – Minor Protection – Minor Endurance (20s, unaffected)

Camouflaged Hunter – Fighters Guild – Minor Berserk (5s to 7s)

Trap Beast – Fighters Guild – Minor Force (6s to 8.4s, though not reflected on tooltip)

Entropy – Mages Guild – Major Sorcery (20s to 28s)

Balance – Mages Guild – Major Ward – Major Resolve (24s to 32s)

Bone Surge – Undaunted – Major Vitality (6s to 8.4s)


World

Accelerated Drain – Vampire – Minor Expedition (17s to 23.8s)

Elusive Mist – Vampire – Major Expedition (4s, unaffected)

Rousing Roar – Werewolf – Major Brutality (20s to 28s)


Alliance War

War Horn – Assault – Minor Toughness (30s to 42s)

Aggressive Horn – Assault – Major Force (8s to 11.2s)

Sturdy Horn – Assault – Minor Ward – Minor Resolve (36s to 50.4s)

Rapid Maneuver – Major Expedition – Major Gallop (30s to 42s)

Charging Maneuver – Minor Expedition (8s to 11.2s)

Mystic Guard – Support – Minor Vitality (15s, unaffected)

Stalwart Guard – Support – Minor Force (15s, unaffected)


Sets

Gossamer – Light Armor Set – Major Evasion (6s to 8.4s)

Heem-Jas’ Retribution – Medium Armor Set – Major Berserk (3s to 4.2s)

Ironblood – Heavy Armor Set – Major Protection (10s to 14s)

Dreugh King Slayer – Heavy Armor Set – Major Expedition (20s, unaffected)

Skooma Smuggler – Light Armor Set – Major Expedition (30s to 42s)

Sithis’ Touch – Light Armor Set – Major Berserk (20s to 28s)

Sourge Harvester – Monster Helm Set – Major Vitality (4s, unaffected)

Pirate Skeleton – Monster Helm Set – Major Protection (12s to 16.8s)

Automated Defense – Heavy Armor Set – Major Aegis (10s, unaffected)

Master Architect – Light Armor Set – Major Slayer (10s, unaffected)

Inventor’s Guard – Light Armor Set – Major Aegis (10s, unaffected)

Vicious Serpent – Medium Armor Set – Major Expedition (20s to 28s)

War Machine – Medium Armor Set – Major Slayer (10s, unaffected)

Quick Serpent – Medium Armor Set – Major Expedition (20s to 28s)

Spectre’s Eye – Crafted Armor Set – Major Evasion (3s to 4.2s)

Daedric Trickery – Crafted Armor Set – Major Vitality – Major Expedition – Major Mending – Major Heroism – Major Protection (10s to 14s)


Potions

Durations vary by potion but they are affected.


This Set also does not boost some of the most powerful Skills and Sets in the game, presumably because they would become TOO powerful. They are listed above because technically they should be affected by Jorvuld’s Guidance, but aren’t.

Seems working as ZOS wants it to work.

That data on what is and isn't effected seems horribly inconsistent even among sets that do similar things. Like why is vicious serpent buffed but not dreugh king slayer?

Bumping this to see if anything has changed. In particular, where Fextralife found that certain buffs
are "unaffected", is this still true?

This is a must have set for end-game PvE actually, since one of the major responsibilities healers have is Warhorn uptime. So while "extending the duration of a single buff" may not seem much to some, the fact that this pushes dps to the limit makes it mandatory in most end-game serious raiding groups.

This is an extremly interesting set for pvp and its nice to see someone shed light on the mechanics of this set. I didn't give it a try yet, but there is many very valuable buffs you can leverage in combination with this set (major protection, major vitality, major berserk, ...)