Same i have two Templars i'd switch to anything but Templars.. God thats F&%$ up class...

notimetocare wrote: »

Feel free to add a class change, as long as it removes all titles, achievements, pvp progress, and skills reset to 0. Let's not add a paid fotm reroll button. Only games I've seen there you have the ability to class change are games with p2w cash trading. And fotm reroll is common even without class change. Differences? Reroll takes time and investment

If you changed classes it would have to reset the skills the other stuff is less important but i'd not care if it did.

It amazes me that people still do not get it... ZOS is a 'business' not a 'charity'. They aren't here to provide things for FREE, they're here to SELL you things to make money to maintain the game as MMOs costs tons of money to keep running.

A class change token means they lose a LOT of potential money from new characters- as many things are character bound- including Outfits, mount training, etc. All of these things ZOS has made a ton of money off of, and I know I've spent enough money on these things to know that they will never offer class changes because of how much revenue they would lose. To make up for it, they would have to charge 50,000 Crown or more 'per class change token' to offset lost revenue.

But not only with lost revenue, but the programming involved with how the class changes would impact class skill leveling. The only fair way would be that when you changed to a new class, every class skill would be level 1, so you'd have to re-level all over again. If you switched back to a previous class, the class skill levels would remain what they were when you originally switched. I just don't see ZOS taking the time to develop this type of system while at the same time losing a ton of revenue.

A class change is a legitimate request given how ZOS nerfs entire classes on a regular basis

ADarklore wrote: »

It amazes me that people still do not get it... ZOS is a 'business' not a 'charity'. They aren't here to provide things for FREE, they're here to SELL you things to make money to maintain the game as MMOs costs tons of money to keep running.

A class change token means they lose a LOT of potential money from new characters- as many things are character bound- including Outfits, mount training, etc. All of these things ZOS has made a ton of money off of, and I know I've spent enough money on these things to know that they will never offer class changes because of how much revenue they would lose. To make up for it, they would have to charge 50,000 Crown or more 'per class change token' to offset lost revenue.

But not only with lost revenue, but the programming involved with how the class changes would impact class skill leveling. The only fair way would be that when you changed to a new class, every class skill would be level 1, so you'd have to re-level all over again. If you switched back to a previous class, the class skill levels would remain what they were when you originally switched. I just don't see ZOS taking the time to develop this type of system while at the same time losing a ton of revenue.

What you and Zos do not get is if these things aren't around then customers like me that would use class changing tokens can't spend money on them.. But they lose out so this business you talk about is actually losing money..

And they be just like a reset token and a character change token.. 5k crowns at max..

Im always biased towards being able to change things at will, paying of course.

I've played every class until now, my main and the character I play 95% of the time is a sorc, and im a good sorc, both in pvp and pve.

However I think i like nightblades the most, after having played them, but my character has almost 30K achievement points, 3 years of play time, I dont feel like playing other toon.

Wouldnt mind paying to change, even paying again to change back if it was the case.

I'm guessing changing class really isn't a thing, then? Bugger. I messed up creating my character and, okay, it'd be easy to make a new one but I'd rather just take the straightforward approach of changing her class. Oh well.

And the official response:

Customer Support is not able to change a character’s alliance or class once that character has been created. However, players are able to create and play with eight different characters on one account. If you wish to change alliance or class, you may create a new character of the alliance and class of your choice.

I don't agree with their approach as there are now many things tipping the balance towards "can't be bothered to play (i.e. subscribe) any more" but if that's how it is, that's how it is.

But I do wish companies would be honest and avoid using phrases like "not able", "can't", "not possible" and so on: if you won't do something, be honest and say so, but don't pretend you "can't" because that's just irritating me further.

Edit: also really obvious standard letters: just don't. No business or organisation should ever do this unless it does genuinely want to express contempt for the people who contact them. I notice that the standard letter has been amended to include "...or class" but even so, the standard response is not the response anybody wants to see: you may as well have just ignored me.

rafaelcsmaia wrote: »

@vometia their official response is from the support team pov, back then we didn't have race change and they made it real, its just a matter of someone at zos seeing the opportunity to snag a few more dollars

Interesting, and perhaps encouraging.

I should also rant less, but it's late in the day and I'm tired and in a mood!