Wanted: Class Change Token

Dont_do_drugs

i want an alliance-change token. i never thought it might be interesting for me, but i need it. when i started my recent account i didnt use adventurers pack and not all chars on the right side (pact). this token can cost 5k crowns or so, i dont care.

rafaelcsmaia

Ley wrote: »

rafaelcsmaia wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

I'm pretty sure this is the first and only time this has ever been suggested in the history of ESO forums. /s

It's fairly simple to avoid request spam: Just answer with yay or nay. While zos doesnt do that, people keep asking.

I think their silence speaks volumes. If they thought that class change tokens were a good idea, they would have added them and sold them for a TON of crowns.

Why confirm or deny something that's just going to *** people off? When instead you can just deal with someone inevitably making a thread about it once a month, that ends up being forgotten.

Again, you say "you can just deal with someone", with "you" being zos, they havent dealt with anyone, neither spoken, so am i supposed to start guessworking? no thanks

Ley

rafaelcsmaia wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

rafaelcsmaia wrote: »

Ley wrote: »

I'm pretty sure this is the first and only time this has ever been suggested in the history of ESO forums. /s

It's fairly simple to avoid request spam: Just answer with yay or nay. While zos doesnt do that, people keep asking.

I think their silence speaks volumes. If they thought that class change tokens were a good idea, they would have added them and sold them for a TON of crowns.

Why confirm or deny something that's just going to *** people off? When instead you can just deal with someone inevitably making a thread about it once a month, that ends up being forgotten.

Again, you say "you can just deal with someone", with "you" being zos, they havent dealt with anyone, neither spoken, so am i supposed to start guessworking? no thanks

They've said in the past (I'm not going to look this up) that they may consider adding this option in the future. Not sure what else you want them to say.

In the meantime, ignoring subsequent requests is a viable way of dealing with them.

cyberjanet

I would be quite okay with a class change that kept your inventory space, riding abilities, and achievements, and restarted you at level one, so that you had to level up through the new class to learn how it goes. In fact, I would even welcome that: it would probably discourage people changing to the flavour of the month OP class at a whim.

In a real life situation, it is not unusual for someone to start off in one job and then make a mid-career change. Or even a try a few jobs before settling on one.

So it's quite feasible that a character starting out as a sorc may decide to become a warden or a nightblade. (Certainly more feasible than someone starting out as a Breton deciding to become an Orc, which the Crown Store allows.) Changing your name, or your look, are also quite normal things for anyone to do. A Faction change is also not unreasonable: we have revolutionaries the world over.

I have too many characters, thanks to One Tamriel. I made characters in different factions to play with people in those factions and now they just languish. But I don't just want to delete them: I invested time and money in riding lessons and inventory space. They have achievements they are proud of. I really don't want to redo all those quests again. I haven't tried out the warden because I have too many characters. But I would certainly consider changing my second Templar to a Warden if I could. Then I would have one of each class plus a second nightblade.

So my vote is YES for a Class Change token.

Digielf

How come class changes still don't exist, ESO needs them more than any other mmo due to the structure of the game

MacCait

Would so love this. I never use my crafter Templar for anything other than crafting... would be great to revitalise him as another class

themaddaedra

Unlimited amount seems bit tricky but they should at least add the option to change a character's class once in a lifetime.

Sigtric

To prevent fotm abuse it'd have to be a one time only deal.

Though the amount of time wasted waiting for this token that is most likely never going to happen, yall could have made a new character and mostly caught up by now.

Zhaedri

Sigtric wrote: »

To prevent fotm abuse it'd have to be a one time only deal.

Though the amount of time wasted waiting for this token that is most likely never going to happen, yall could have made a new character and mostly caught up by now.

Redoing more than a year of work isn't something that can be so easily done over the course of a few weeks for me. Especially when it comes to mount training and achievements and crafting and all that other stuff.

I probably will make an "alter ego" character for her though. Her RP is taking her in a direction where it would make some sense.

funguy

Ya i want class change token too
All you need to do to make it less abusable make it expensive... like 10-15k crowns will do...

We have race change token but not class... Thats realy strange... Coz in not in TES Lore... to be class based... Changing race is less lore friendly then class change... Learning new tricks (spells) makes more sense then reborn or grow a tail...

Tethilia

What I would like to see is Class Morphing, where you could add a second class to a character, but it would remove skill lines. That way you could have more combinations (but the balancing would be atrocious)

rafaelcsmaia

Sigtric wrote: »

To prevent fotm abuse it'd have to be a one time only deal.

Though the amount of time wasted waiting for this token that is most likely never going to happen, yall could have made a new character and mostly caught up by now.

I doubt id be able to catch up every single achievement I've got up until now (almost 26k points) in one year, it would take forever and be boring as hell.

VyersReaver

Or you could've leveled up all 5 classes by now. EVERYTHING (and I mean EVERYTHING) in the game is account bound. Use it.

rafaelcsmaia

VyersReaver wrote: »

Or you could've leveled up all 5 classes by now. EVERYTHING (and I mean EVERYTHING) in the game is account bound. Use it.

Do you even play ESO bro?

TarrNokk

Class change is the worst idea ever. Besides, why zos meant they can't change alliances is because class and race are depending on alliance. So if you try to change your class to another class it would have to fit with your race to stay in your alliance and this is impossible.

rafaelcsmaia

TarrNokk wrote: »

Class change is the worst idea ever. Besides, why zos meant they can't change alliances is because class and race are depending on alliance. So if you try to change your class to another class it would have to fit with your race to stay in your alliance and this is impossible.

Your comment makes no sense, we can already change races despite alliance, why classes would bring alliances issues?

VyersReaver

rafaelcsmaia wrote: »

VyersReaver wrote: »

Or you could've leveled up all 5 classes by now. EVERYTHING (and I mean EVERYTHING) in the game is account bound. Use it.

Do you even play ESO bro?

Well, do you?

Merenwen_812

I so want a class change. I would even be fine with it being a limited thing to where you can only change class once every 6 months or year. I did level the class I want, but just can't put the same amount of effort into having them learn all the motifs, get all the achievements (fishing being main one here). If motifs and achievements were account wide making a new character would be so much better.

Vapirko

MerlinPendragon wrote: »

Not needed. Please don't add this @ZoS

This person is wrong, they are needed, please do add them.

VyersReaver

Merenwen_812 wrote: »

I so want a class change. I would even be fine with it being a limited thing to where you can only change class once every 6 months or year. I did level the class I want, but just can't put the same amount of effort into having them learn all the motifs, get all the achievements (fishing being main one here). If motifs and achievements were account wide making a new character would be so much better.

Because you can't craft what you want on the one that has the motif? That's why you create a dedicated crafter. And Outfit system has those shared on account. And Achievements excuse is a load of bull, has no bearing on gameplay.

You can share your gear through bank, so you don't even need to do any research on anyone else but your main crafter. Transmute stuff on the char that has the desired trait. Jewelry upgrade on the same character. I think the "Class Change" token is for those who are so lazy they don't want to spend 4 hours leveling a fresh alt.

Not my business whatever anyone wants, I just think it has no sense. What HAS sense is Alliance Change.

rafaelcsmaia

VyersReaver wrote: »

rafaelcsmaia wrote: »

VyersReaver wrote: »

Or you could've leveled up all 5 classes by now. EVERYTHING (and I mean EVERYTHING) in the game is account bound. Use it.

Do you even play ESO bro?

Well, do you?

Saying everything is account bound is obnoxious bro, lesser things includes mount speed and skyshard, bigger things includes titles and achievements, if you dont care about those things, thats you, dont claim everything is account bound, its misleading and not true.

Btw: account bound is not the same as account wide, im assuming you meant 'wide', bound would make even less sense

Merlin13KAGL

rafaelcsmaia wrote: »

White wabbit wrote: »

Because why ZOS sell additional character slots I just don't see it happen and I'd rather them use their time fixing real issues than implement something that REALLY isn't needed

Its not about a new character, its a roleplay matter, people want to keep their character history and just changing classes, it's not about being needed, the op just did what zos told him to, suggest in the forums

Just curious, how do you RP justify the event transpiring, just a few lines' worth?

"I have this elaborate history, sense of character, set of personal standard and morals regarding all things in game."

Then one day you magically go from being an aircraft designer to a professional ballerina after paying the cost of a magic token?

InB4 "You can change race/appearance/gender" (which is equally absurd from an RP perspective, IMO.) If you do any of these things to a drastic degree (class change certainly being a drastic degree), don't you essentially become a different character at that point?

rafaelcsmaia

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

rafaelcsmaia wrote: »

White wabbit wrote: »

Because why ZOS sell additional character slots I just don't see it happen and I'd rather them use their time fixing real issues than implement something that REALLY isn't needed

Its not about a new character, its a roleplay matter, people want to keep their character history and just changing classes, it's not about being needed, the op just did what zos told him to, suggest in the forums

Just curious, how do you RP justify the event transpiring, just a few lines' worth?

"I have this elaborate history, sense of character, set of personal standard and morals regarding all things in game."

Then one day you magically go from being an aircraft designer to a professional ballerina after paying the cost of a magic token?

InB4 "You can change race/appearance/gender" (which is equally absurd from an RP perspective, IMO.) If you do any of these things to a drastic degree (class change certainly being a drastic degree), don't you essentially become a different character at that point?

I'd rather it be a quest tbh, it could be the likes of werewolf and vampire, but ZOS seem to like tokens, since they wouldnt profit from a quest class choice.

White wabbit

This would virtualy wipe the need for addition character slots as all you need would be change class so can't see it happen , but if it did happen you can only change class once on a character and then it's stuck like that

Zhaedri

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

rafaelcsmaia wrote: »

White wabbit wrote: »

Because why ZOS sell additional character slots I just don't see it happen and I'd rather them use their time fixing real issues than implement something that REALLY isn't needed

Its not about a new character, its a roleplay matter, people want to keep their character history and just changing classes, it's not about being needed, the op just did what zos told him to, suggest in the forums

Just curious, how do you RP justify the event transpiring, just a few lines' worth?

"I have this elaborate history, sense of character, set of personal standard and morals regarding all things in game."

Then one day you magically go from being an aircraft designer to a professional ballerina after paying the cost of a magic token?

InB4 "You can change race/appearance/gender" (which is equally absurd from an RP perspective, IMO.) If you do any of these things to a drastic degree (class change certainly being a drastic degree), don't you essentially become a different character at that point?

Well, for my character, she is a stam sorc. Heavy with the twin bladies, and a lot of character development was done during thieves guild/dark brotherhood. She's a sneaky-killy character, and her RP has never focused on the 'magic' side of things (like lightning, or summoning daedra, or whatever), and instead focused on weapons skills and stealth. Her RP usually has her in roles of covert ops, scouting, tracking, and black ops heists/missions. When I made her, I had only the barest concept of a character, and as she was my very first character, things developed over time as I learned the game better.

I feel Nightblade (probably a stamblade or hybrid build) skills (stealth, assassination, shadow, etc) would suit her better as a character compared to flashy 'turn into lightning'/'zappy zappy' Sorceror.

Sure, stamblade/hybrid might not be best in show for any particular role, however with skill points spread across ALL crafting skills, racial, armor, werewolf, legerdemain, thieves guild, dark brotherhood... she is not really a heavy PVE or PVP character, and really only just need to function alright for overland content, delves, and public dungeons in a fun way.

So for her, it wouldn't be 'whoop, suddenly no longer a mage!' it'd be more 'I have better skills now to back up my identity'.

As to those saying 'not needed, just reroll/make a new character/this will destroy alt characters', I disagree. Name changes, appearance changes, and racial changes 'aren't needed, just reroll' as well, yet enough desire for them has prompted Zos to put them in their crown store as a convenience item. How someone decides to RP or not RP those changes is up to them. I already have several alts (see my sig), of varying classes, and being able to change the class of a character won't keep me from leveling the others or even purchasing a couple more character slots to try different things out. I spent a lot of time on her (and my other alts) leveling skills, mount training (my friends know when I get on because they get to see a dozen or so logon/logoffs as i give everyone their training), gathering motifs, etc, which isn't so simple to just reroll and quickly redo. Leveling 1-50 is the easy part.

'Fix the bugs instead!' Notice I am suggesting this on the crown store forum, not the fix the bugs forum. Are you suggesting adding bugfixes to the crown store? Likely not. I'm also not going into the bugs forum and saying 'ignore the bugs, add stuff to the crown store instead!' I'm pretty sure they actually have different teams working on bugfixes vs new content vs crown store items.

Palidon

If ZOS was going to implement a class change token they would have by now. There is no reason to keep that on hold. Besides have you ever seen them comment on the request?

rafaelcsmaia

Palidon wrote: »

If ZOS was going to implement a class change token they would have by now. There is no reason to keep that on hold. Besides have you ever seen them comment on the request?

They never posted anything here in the forums, neither for or against

Zipadeedoodah

I would still like to see a class change token!
If it's a balancing issue, just make it incredibly expensive, I'm ok with that. I'd literally pay $40 to change the class on my main achievement collecting toon.

SydneyGrey

MacCait wrote: »

I'd love this on my crafter... a templar i never play

Same here, only my master crafter is a Breton sorceror. I'd love to make her something else, since I've discovered I don't really like playing magicka sorcs. (I guess I could race change her and make her a stamina sorc, but ... meh. Not really into stamsorcs, either.)

SydneyGrey

Eleandor wrote: »

In all fairness I predict this will lead to a future ESO where 90% play the recent OP class. I can see tons of sorcs changing to NB right now and then to whatever gets buffed in the next patch. Part of the appeal is people overcoming challenges with current classes.

I don't think that will happen. Most people outside of PvP don't care about playing the most OP class, and if they did, they would have already made characters in whatever they think is/will be OP. Same with PvPers ... I suspect they would have already made characters in multiple classes to keep up with whatever is OP.

*EDIT* Argh. I just realized this thread was necro'ed. Dang it.