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Stam DK is underpowered in PVP!
Skoomah
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Edited by Skoomah on July 27, 2018 8:24PM Stam DK is underpowered in PVP! 151 votes
Yes
40%
61 votes
No
59%
90 votes
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Skoomah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesBarely come across one to fight anymore, and when I do, I never fear fighting them. When was the last time you were scared in your boots when coming across a Stam DK?0 -
Twohothardware✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesStamSorc is dead in PVP, at least in Cyrodiil, on PS4. I see a good number of StamDK's but StamNB and Magicka classes dominate the majority.4 -
Solariken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NoI don't understand why people keep saying this crap. StamDk is fine. Just because it's not as good as that over-tuned monster stamwarden doesn't mean stamDk is dead.15 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LegendaryMage wrote: »Stam DK is not dead, it's just incredibly boring.
I have a blast fighting on my Stam DK. If it was your only class I can understand that but idk how people only main one class forever. They all get boring after a while imo. I usually have to rotate through a main and secondary class. ATM it’s Stam Dk and Mag sorc.1 -
LegendaryMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭LegendaryMage wrote: »Stam DK is not dead, it's just incredibly boring.
I have a blast fighting on my Stam DK. If it was your only class I can understand that but idk how people only main one class forever. They all get boring after a while imo. I usually have to rotate through a main and secondary class. ATM it’s Stam Dk and Mag sorc.
I liked playing it for a few months, but eventually I found that both stamplar & stam nb have more flavor and class identity compared to stam dk that has to heavily rely on weapon skills to kill someone.
If they had a stam morph for whip, that would be a step in the right direction.2 -
_Ahala_✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesIt needs something more to bring some uniqueness to the class and so that it’s not so reliant on weapon lines... some more stam class morphs and perhaps a stam class spammable would be a good way to achieve this2 -
Aedaryl✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoThe OP changed the title from Stam dk is DEAD to UNDERPOWERED, the poll is now biased.
Another magic crying DK move...1 -
Draxys✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Underpowered would be misleading. But it’s not in a great spot either. Playing stam DK is essentially just playing the weapon skill lines. It needs an identity.2013
rip decibel4 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NoStam DK is pretty good. I think it’s pretty balanced and the issue is that some other builds really aren’t.
@Twohothardware Stam Sorc is phenomenal, ridiculously slept on. Have you tried putting meditate and race against time on your overload bar?Edited by Lexxypwns on July 27, 2018 9:17PM3 -
KingLogix✭✭✭YesStam DK is pretty good. I think it’s pretty balanced and the issue is that some other builds really aren’t.
@Twohothardware Stam Sorc is phenomenal, ridiculously slept on. Have you tried putting meditate and race against time on your overload bar?
Stam sorc is great! I can agree with that
Dark deal + dark deal immunity opens the doors for more damage, less sustain sets XD Offense is your best defense sometimes.
Stam dk? Ehh, lol. Its not that its super boring(part of it)..Its that the damage is underwhelming. Due to summerset, you are fighing more damage shields then health bars. >.< Its very hard to burst a shadow rend/necro//lich mag sorc with puncure/bash or dizzy/claw lol.
People also dont know but when Zos reduced the snare on heroic to 4 seconds, it really hurt the stam dk when fighting more seasoned night blades
I havent played on PTS , but I cant imagine the reduction to defile duration on reverb is going to help when fighting nightblades. 1 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NoStam DK is pretty good. I think it’s pretty balanced and the issue is that some other builds really aren’t.
@Twohothardware Stam Sorc is phenomenal, ridiculously slept on. Have you tried putting meditate and race against time on your overload bar?
Stam sorc is great! I can agree with that Dark deal + dark deal immunity opens the doors for more damage, less sustain sets XD Offense is your best defense sometimes.
Stam dk? Ehh, lol. Its not that its super boring(part of it)..Its that the damage is underwhelming. Due to summerset, you are fighing more damage shields then health bars. >.< Its very hard to burst a shadow rend/necro//lich mag sorc with puncure/bash or dizzy/claw lol.
People also dont know but when Zos reduced the snare on heroic to 4 seconds, it really hurt the stam dk when fighting more seasoned night blades I havent played on PTS , but I cant imagine the reduction to defile duration on reverb is going to help when fighting nightblades.
But that sorc can’t burst you either and has a much smaller offensive window. Also, crushing weapon > puncture or low slashEdited by Lexxypwns on July 27, 2018 10:09PM0 -
MaxwellC✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesLol to anyone who thinks Stam DK is somewhat competent in comparison to any other class.
If we're talking about pre-nerfed Stam DK you know when the passives weren't messed around then I'd tepidly agree. ZOS sold off of our skills so other classes can have them or everyone can now use them, consistent nerfs thanks to IDIOTS who cried about DK being good because weapon skills synergized so well with X or seeing a DK place in the top of duels.
So yeah IDIOTS brought this B.S about & people continue to act as if it's all find and dandy FoH.不動の Steadfast - Unwavering
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Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Twohothardware wrote: »StamSorc is dead in PVP, at least in Cyrodiil, on PS4. I see a good number of StamDK's but StamNB and Magicka classes dominate the majority.
Ummmm stam sorc is currently one of the best classeshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
ESO and GW2 PvP videos5 -
CaliMade✭✭✭✭Yesthe problem with stam dk is the exact same problem with stam sorc. not enough class identity. even on the defensive end.
on my stam dk i want to run Wings, Igneous, and volatile armor. all three are very essential to survival for the class. already im looking at 3/5 bar slots taken by magic abilities.
i run around 1100 mag recovery with Engine guardian and can barley sustain that. (to give an example of how big of a deal this is for me; I run 1000 stam recovery and im rarely out of stamina, i run 1400 mag recovery on my mag dk with no issues.)
doing so requires me to run shacklebreaker and 2 mag recovery glyphs on my jewelry.
this hurts my damage caused immensely.
Alternatively i could drop volatile armor for chudan, and drop wings for defensive posture. but at that point im stripping my dk defensive identity away. now shes just a weapon line defender with only 1 dk ability on my backbar.
offensively-I know I know “how bout you use ransack, how bout you use WB,”
how bout you drop surprise attack for ransack?
how bout you drop jabs for WB?
stam dks have no access to direct class damage outside of leap and ALL of thier class utility is magic based.
^point im making here is in addition to weapon lines IMO being very bland and boring, what they have to offer is generally weaker then what the more balanced classes have to offer. not saying stamplar is in its best spot but it sure is better and more fun than the weapon line warriors, oops, i mean stam dk and stam sorc. weapon and guild skill lines should be optional, not mandatory.
Edited by CaliMade on July 28, 2018 12:58AMXB1 GT- Cali Made
Praetorian Stam DK Redguard
Brigadier Stam/magblade (whatever i feel like running) Redguard
Major Mag DK Dark Elf
lieutenant Mag/stamplar (whatever i feel like running) Redguard4 -
CyrusArya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭NoStam DK- alongside Stamplar, Stam Sorc, Mag DK, and Magplar are in a relatively balanced state. Nightblade and mag sorc are both overtuned one way or another, and mag warden under performs.
Stam DKs issue is that it lacks flavor and feels kinda generic in comparison to other specs that have a bit more of a flourish. It’s not an issue of it underperforming. Class is still one of if not the tankiest class in the game, and anything that can slap on fury and seventh will have great damage.
The problem some stam DKs have is accepting that their class isn’t the absolutely broken heavy armor monsters the class was for a long long time yesteryear.5 -
CaliMade✭✭✭✭YesStam DK is pretty good. I think it’s pretty balanced and the issue is that some other builds really aren’t.
@Twohothardware Stam Sorc is phenomenal, ridiculously slept on. Have you tried putting meditate and race against time on your overload bar?
Stam sorc is great! I can agree with that Dark deal + dark deal immunity opens the doors for more damage, less sustain sets XD Offense is your best defense sometimes.
Stam dk? Ehh, lol. Its not that its super boring(part of it)..Its that the damage is underwhelming. Due to summerset, you are fighing more damage shields then health bars. >.< Its very hard to burst a shadow rend/necro//lich mag sorc with puncure/bash or dizzy/claw lol.
People also dont know but when Zos reduced the snare on heroic to 4 seconds, it really hurt the stam dk when fighting more seasoned night blades I havent played on PTS , but I cant imagine the reduction to defile duration on reverb is going to help when fighting nightblades.
But that sorc can’t burst you either and has a much smaller offensive window. Also, crushing weapon > puncture or low slash
i was dueling another stam dk a few days ago, i was using crushing weapons. the issue with it is(now this may just be campaign lag or a xbox na problem) my light attacks were rarely landing
its not like he was dodging, and he wasnt running shuffle either. i now joke missed like 4-5 light attacks consecutively. This is just the most dramatic instance. light attacks have a very crappy hitbox. yeah its good damage when it lands but ive had more success landing powerlashes on nightblades that just landing crushing light attacks on anyone.
XB1 GT- Cali Made
Praetorian Stam DK Redguard
Brigadier Stam/magblade (whatever i feel like running) Redguard
Major Mag DK Dark Elf
lieutenant Mag/stamplar (whatever i feel like running) Redguard2 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NoStam DK- alongside Stamplar, Stam Sorc, Mag DK, and Magplar are in a relatively balanced state. Nightblade and mag sorc are both overtuned one way or another, and mag warden under performs.
Stam DKs issue is that it lacks flavor and feels kinda generic in comparison to other specs that have a bit more of a flourish. It’s not an issue of it underperforming. Class is still one of if not the tankiest class in the game, and anything that can slap on fury and seventh will have great damage.
The problem some stam DKs have is accepting that their class isn’t the absolutely broken heavy armor monsters the class was for a long long time yesteryear.
I think this sums up the topic perfectly. ILY @CyrusArya2 -
Aedaryl✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoStam DK is pretty good. I think it’s pretty balanced and the issue is that some other builds really aren’t.
@Twohothardware Stam Sorc is phenomenal, ridiculously slept on. Have you tried putting meditate and race against time on your overload bar?
Stam sorc is great! I can agree with that Dark deal + dark deal immunity opens the doors for more damage, less sustain sets XD Offense is your best defense sometimes.
Stam dk? Ehh, lol. Its not that its super boring(part of it)..Its that the damage is underwhelming. Due to summerset, you are fighing more damage shields then health bars. >.< Its very hard to burst a shadow rend/necro//lich mag sorc with puncure/bash or dizzy/claw lol.
People also dont know but when Zos reduced the snare on heroic to 4 seconds, it really hurt the stam dk when fighting more seasoned night blades I havent played on PTS , but I cant imagine the reduction to defile duration on reverb is going to help when fighting nightblades.
But that sorc can’t burst you either and has a much smaller offensive window. Also, crushing weapon > puncture or low slash
i was dueling another stam dk a few days ago, i was using crushing weapons. the issue with it is(now this may just be campaign lag or a xbox na problem) my light attacks were rarely landing
its not like he was dodging, and he wasnt running shuffle either. i now joke missed like 4-5 light attacks consecutively. This is just the most dramatic instance. light attacks have a very crappy hitbox. yeah its good damage when it lands but ive had more success landing powerlashes on nightblades that just landing crushing light attacks on anyone.
Sorry but if you are unable to land light attacks you are unable to play stam DK proprely and so you are unable to speak about the class balance.
When you will be able to light attack -> Heroic slash -> bash every single time you will be able to discuss about balance.0 -
CaliMade✭✭✭✭YesStam DK is pretty good. I think it’s pretty balanced and the issue is that some other builds really aren’t.
@Twohothardware Stam Sorc is phenomenal, ridiculously slept on. Have you tried putting meditate and race against time on your overload bar?
Stam sorc is great! I can agree with that Dark deal + dark deal immunity opens the doors for more damage, less sustain sets XD Offense is your best defense sometimes.
Stam dk? Ehh, lol. Its not that its super boring(part of it)..Its that the damage is underwhelming. Due to summerset, you are fighing more damage shields then health bars. >.< Its very hard to burst a shadow rend/necro//lich mag sorc with puncure/bash or dizzy/claw lol.
People also dont know but when Zos reduced the snare on heroic to 4 seconds, it really hurt the stam dk when fighting more seasoned night blades I havent played on PTS , but I cant imagine the reduction to defile duration on reverb is going to help when fighting nightblades.
But that sorc can’t burst you either and has a much smaller offensive window. Also, crushing weapon > puncture or low slash
i was dueling another stam dk a few days ago, i was using crushing weapons. the issue with it is(now this may just be campaign lag or a xbox na problem) my light attacks were rarely landing
its not like he was dodging, and he wasnt running shuffle either. i now joke missed like 4-5 light attacks consecutively. This is just the most dramatic instance. light attacks have a very crappy hitbox. yeah its good damage when it lands but ive had more success landing powerlashes on nightblades that just landing crushing light attacks on anyone.
Sorry but if you are unable to land light attacks you are unable to play stam DK proprely and so you are unable to speak about the class balance.
When you will be able to light attack -> Heroic slash -> bash every single time you will be able to discuss about balance.
What???????????
your making no sense.
my light attacks mysteriously miss= im bad at dk?
why do people reach so hard to invalidate somones point of view?
Edited by CaliMade on July 28, 2018 5:01AMXB1 GT- Cali Made
Praetorian Stam DK Redguard
Brigadier Stam/magblade (whatever i feel like running) Redguard
Major Mag DK Dark Elf
lieutenant Mag/stamplar (whatever i feel like running) Redguard2 -
Aedaryl✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoStam DK is pretty good. I think it’s pretty balanced and the issue is that some other builds really aren’t.
@Twohothardware Stam Sorc is phenomenal, ridiculously slept on. Have you tried putting meditate and race against time on your overload bar?
Stam sorc is great! I can agree with that Dark deal + dark deal immunity opens the doors for more damage, less sustain sets XD Offense is your best defense sometimes.
Stam dk? Ehh, lol. Its not that its super boring(part of it)..Its that the damage is underwhelming. Due to summerset, you are fighing more damage shields then health bars. >.< Its very hard to burst a shadow rend/necro//lich mag sorc with puncure/bash or dizzy/claw lol.
People also dont know but when Zos reduced the snare on heroic to 4 seconds, it really hurt the stam dk when fighting more seasoned night blades I havent played on PTS , but I cant imagine the reduction to defile duration on reverb is going to help when fighting nightblades.
But that sorc can’t burst you either and has a much smaller offensive window. Also, crushing weapon > puncture or low slash
i was dueling another stam dk a few days ago, i was using crushing weapons. the issue with it is(now this may just be campaign lag or a xbox na problem) my light attacks were rarely landing
its not like he was dodging, and he wasnt running shuffle either. i now joke missed like 4-5 light attacks consecutively. This is just the most dramatic instance. light attacks have a very crappy hitbox. yeah its good damage when it lands but ive had more success landing powerlashes on nightblades that just landing crushing light attacks on anyone.
Sorry but if you are unable to land light attacks you are unable to play stam DK proprely and so you are unable to speak about the class balance.
When you will be able to light attack -> Heroic slash -> bash every single time you will be able to discuss about balance.
What???????????
your making no sense.
my light attacks mysteriously miss= im bad at dk?
why do people reach so hard to invalidate somones point of view?
Yeah, no/little light attack and no bash mean you are bad at dk, sorry.
You should go train ona skeleton, when you will be able to land every single LA/HS/Bash, start doing offensive and defensive rotations.
When you master it on skeleton, do it in duel.
When you master it in duel, you are officially able to speak about balance.0 -
CaliMade✭✭✭✭YesStam DK is pretty good. I think it’s pretty balanced and the issue is that some other builds really aren’t.
@Twohothardware Stam Sorc is phenomenal, ridiculously slept on. Have you tried putting meditate and race against time on your overload bar?
Stam sorc is great! I can agree with that Dark deal + dark deal immunity opens the doors for more damage, less sustain sets XD Offense is your best defense sometimes.
Stam dk? Ehh, lol. Its not that its super boring(part of it)..Its that the damage is underwhelming. Due to summerset, you are fighing more damage shields then health bars. >.< Its very hard to burst a shadow rend/necro//lich mag sorc with puncure/bash or dizzy/claw lol.
People also dont know but when Zos reduced the snare on heroic to 4 seconds, it really hurt the stam dk when fighting more seasoned night blades I havent played on PTS , but I cant imagine the reduction to defile duration on reverb is going to help when fighting nightblades.
But that sorc can’t burst you either and has a much smaller offensive window. Also, crushing weapon > puncture or low slash
i was dueling another stam dk a few days ago, i was using crushing weapons. the issue with it is(now this may just be campaign lag or a xbox na problem) my light attacks were rarely landing
its not like he was dodging, and he wasnt running shuffle either. i now joke missed like 4-5 light attacks consecutively. This is just the most dramatic instance. light attacks have a very crappy hitbox. yeah its good damage when it lands but ive had more success landing powerlashes on nightblades that just landing crushing light attacks on anyone.
Sorry but if you are unable to land light attacks you are unable to play stam DK proprely and so you are unable to speak about the class balance.
When you will be able to light attack -> Heroic slash -> bash every single time you will be able to discuss about balance.
What???????????
your making no sense.
my light attacks mysteriously miss= im bad at dk?
why do people reach so hard to invalidate somones point of view?
Yeah, no/little light attack and no bash mean you are bad at dk, sorry.
You should go train ona skeleton, when you will be able to land every single LA/HS/Bash, start doing offensive and defensive rotations.
When you master it on skeleton, do it in duel.
When you master it in duel, you are officially able to speak about balance.
You cant be serious?
im just going to assume your trolling
Dks aren’t “Technically” bad just as no stam class can be “technically” bad because of how strong weapon lines are in general, BUT weapon lines are still weaker than the in class dps skills we have on more balanced pvp classes such as NB stamplar and Stam Warden.
As I said stam dk is frustratingly forced into weapon lines because the lack of stam support in the class skill line is extremely limiting. and it makes the class boring to play.
XB1 GT- Cali Made
Praetorian Stam DK Redguard
Brigadier Stam/magblade (whatever i feel like running) Redguard
Major Mag DK Dark Elf
lieutenant Mag/stamplar (whatever i feel like running) Redguard0 -
Aedaryl✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoStam DK is pretty good. I think it’s pretty balanced and the issue is that some other builds really aren’t.
@Twohothardware Stam Sorc is phenomenal, ridiculously slept on. Have you tried putting meditate and race against time on your overload bar?
Stam sorc is great! I can agree with that Dark deal + dark deal immunity opens the doors for more damage, less sustain sets XD Offense is your best defense sometimes.
Stam dk? Ehh, lol. Its not that its super boring(part of it)..Its that the damage is underwhelming. Due to summerset, you are fighing more damage shields then health bars. >.< Its very hard to burst a shadow rend/necro//lich mag sorc with puncure/bash or dizzy/claw lol.
People also dont know but when Zos reduced the snare on heroic to 4 seconds, it really hurt the stam dk when fighting more seasoned night blades I havent played on PTS , but I cant imagine the reduction to defile duration on reverb is going to help when fighting nightblades.
But that sorc can’t burst you either and has a much smaller offensive window. Also, crushing weapon > puncture or low slash
i was dueling another stam dk a few days ago, i was using crushing weapons. the issue with it is(now this may just be campaign lag or a xbox na problem) my light attacks were rarely landing
its not like he was dodging, and he wasnt running shuffle either. i now joke missed like 4-5 light attacks consecutively. This is just the most dramatic instance. light attacks have a very crappy hitbox. yeah its good damage when it lands but ive had more success landing powerlashes on nightblades that just landing crushing light attacks on anyone.
Sorry but if you are unable to land light attacks you are unable to play stam DK proprely and so you are unable to speak about the class balance.
When you will be able to light attack -> Heroic slash -> bash every single time you will be able to discuss about balance.
What???????????
your making no sense.
my light attacks mysteriously miss= im bad at dk?
why do people reach so hard to invalidate somones point of view?
Yeah, no/little light attack and no bash mean you are bad at dk, sorry.
You should go train ona skeleton, when you will be able to land every single LA/HS/Bash, start doing offensive and defensive rotations.
When you master it on skeleton, do it in duel.
When you master it in duel, you are officially able to speak about balance.
You cant be serious?
im just going to assume your trolling
Dks aren’t “Technically” bad just as no stam class can be “technically” bad because of how strong weapon lines are in general, BUT weapon lines are still weaker than the in class dps skills we have on more balanced pvp classes such as NB stamplar and Stam Warden.
As I said stam dk is frustratingly forced into weapon lines because the lack of stam support in the class skill line is extremely limiting. and it makes the class boring to play.
S&B is not weaker than class skill lines since it give you the best defense and every single buff and debuff you can dream of, in top of the strongest spammable (bash deal OP damage).
Stam dk lack identity, I agree, but it doesn't make it dead or weak.Edited by Aedaryl on July 28, 2018 6:05AM0 -
CaliMade✭✭✭✭YesStam DK is pretty good. I think it’s pretty balanced and the issue is that some other builds really aren’t.
@Twohothardware Stam Sorc is phenomenal, ridiculously slept on. Have you tried putting meditate and race against time on your overload bar?
Stam sorc is great! I can agree with that Dark deal + dark deal immunity opens the doors for more damage, less sustain sets XD Offense is your best defense sometimes.
Stam dk? Ehh, lol. Its not that its super boring(part of it)..Its that the damage is underwhelming. Due to summerset, you are fighing more damage shields then health bars. >.< Its very hard to burst a shadow rend/necro//lich mag sorc with puncure/bash or dizzy/claw lol.
People also dont know but when Zos reduced the snare on heroic to 4 seconds, it really hurt the stam dk when fighting more seasoned night blades I havent played on PTS , but I cant imagine the reduction to defile duration on reverb is going to help when fighting nightblades.
But that sorc can’t burst you either and has a much smaller offensive window. Also, crushing weapon > puncture or low slash
i was dueling another stam dk a few days ago, i was using crushing weapons. the issue with it is(now this may just be campaign lag or a xbox na problem) my light attacks were rarely landing
its not like he was dodging, and he wasnt running shuffle either. i now joke missed like 4-5 light attacks consecutively. This is just the most dramatic instance. light attacks have a very crappy hitbox. yeah its good damage when it lands but ive had more success landing powerlashes on nightblades that just landing crushing light attacks on anyone.
Sorry but if you are unable to land light attacks you are unable to play stam DK proprely and so you are unable to speak about the class balance.
When you will be able to light attack -> Heroic slash -> bash every single time you will be able to discuss about balance.
What???????????
your making no sense.
my light attacks mysteriously miss= im bad at dk?
why do people reach so hard to invalidate somones point of view?
Yeah, no/little light attack and no bash mean you are bad at dk, sorry.
You should go train ona skeleton, when you will be able to land every single LA/HS/Bash, start doing offensive and defensive rotations.
When you master it on skeleton, do it in duel.
When you master it in duel, you are officially able to speak about balance.
You cant be serious?
im just going to assume your trolling
Dks aren’t “Technically” bad just as no stam class can be “technically” bad because of how strong weapon lines are in general, BUT weapon lines are still weaker than the in class dps skills we have on more balanced pvp classes such as NB stamplar and Stam Warden.
As I said stam dk is frustratingly forced into weapon lines because the lack of stam support in the class skill line is extremely limiting. and it makes the class boring to play.
S&B is not weaker than class skill lines since it give you the best defense and every single buff and debuff you can dream of, in top of the strongest spammable (bash deal OP damage).
Stam dk lack identity, I agree, but it doesn't make it dead or weak.
run snb and drop surprise attack for puncture.
or run stamplar and replace jabs with heroic slash
XB1 GT- Cali Made
Praetorian Stam DK Redguard
Brigadier Stam/magblade (whatever i feel like running) Redguard
Major Mag DK Dark Elf
lieutenant Mag/stamplar (whatever i feel like running) Redguard0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoStamDK took some un-necessary nerfs because of all the "immortal stamDK´s" that could tank a smaller army and then kill them afterwards (I´m talking about the time between One Tamriel and Horns of the Reach patch). And because of that they where nerfed.
he problem I´ve is that these "immortal" builds was possible due to certain sets being bugged (and exploited) together with certain CP allocations also being bugged. And these sets happened to synergies well with stamDK and the "Hold your ground"-playstyle. The DK class itself was never overpowered between these patches.
As soon as these sets (can name them if asked for) was fixed, these immortal tanks disappeared. But for some reason ZOS thought it was a good idea to further nerf the "hold your ground" playstyle that stamDK´s liked, even though it wasn´t as viable anymore due to bugged sets being fixed.
Are stamDK´s bad? No I don´t consider them bad, but ZOS could´ve handled things better.1 -
Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Stam DK is pretty good. I think it’s pretty balanced and the issue is that some other builds really aren’t.
@Twohothardware Stam Sorc is phenomenal, ridiculously slept on. Have you tried putting meditate and race against time on your overload bar?
Stam sorc is great! I can agree with that Dark deal + dark deal immunity opens the doors for more damage, less sustain sets XD Offense is your best defense sometimes.
Stam dk? Ehh, lol. Its not that its super boring(part of it)..Its that the damage is underwhelming. Due to summerset, you are fighing more damage shields then health bars. >.< Its very hard to burst a shadow rend/necro//lich mag sorc with puncure/bash or dizzy/claw lol.
People also dont know but when Zos reduced the snare on heroic to 4 seconds, it really hurt the stam dk when fighting more seasoned night blades I havent played on PTS , but I cant imagine the reduction to defile duration on reverb is going to help when fighting nightblades.
But that sorc can’t burst you either and has a much smaller offensive window. Also, crushing weapon > puncture or low slash
i was dueling another stam dk a few days ago, i was using crushing weapons. the issue with it is(now this may just be campaign lag or a xbox na problem) my light attacks were rarely landing
its not like he was dodging, and he wasnt running shuffle either. i now joke missed like 4-5 light attacks consecutively. This is just the most dramatic instance. light attacks have a very crappy hitbox. yeah its good damage when it lands but ive had more success landing powerlashes on nightblades that just landing crushing light attacks on anyone.
Sorry but if you are unable to land light attacks you are unable to play stam DK proprely and so you are unable to speak about the class balance.
When you will be able to light attack -> Heroic slash -> bash every single time you will be able to discuss about balance.
What???????????
your making no sense.
my light attacks mysteriously miss= im bad at dk?
why do people reach so hard to invalidate somones point of view?
Yeah, no/little light attack and no bash mean you are bad at dk, sorry.
You should go train ona skeleton, when you will be able to land every single LA/HS/Bash, start doing offensive and defensive rotations.
When you master it on skeleton, do it in duel.
When you master it in duel, you are officially able to speak about balance.
I'm sorry but i can't but laugh at your comments, You think Crushing Weapon is easy to land in PvP with any sort lag? you're out of your damn mind.
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✭✭✭✭NoHonestly if it had an instant-cast spammable it would probably be my main. StamDKs are incredibly well equipped. I just can't stand using Uppercut or Flurry. Sucks stamina weapon spammables are terrible in this game.1 -
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✭NoHonestly if it had an instant-cast spammable it would probably be my main. StamDKs are incredibly well equipped. I just can't stand using Uppercut or Flurry. Sucks stamina weapon spammables are terrible in this game.
U don't get it.
Use heroic slash, everything else is weaker for stamdk.
Light attack -> heroic slash -> bash. Repeat.0
